I wouldn't say that. She dresses akin to Oden because he's the ideal she aspires to.
I think it's fitting with her character as presented.
Oden is the ideal she aspires to. I think this is best captured here in these two scenes:
Yamato doesn't want to be free because Oden was free; she wants to be Oden because Oden was free.
Yamato has been a prisoner since childhood. She's lived her life physically shackled to Onigashima and mentally shackled to the role that Kaido had fashioned for her. She wanted to be free from those shackles.
Oden's life inspired her. He was someone that wasn't bound by anything. Someone that lived his life as he pleased. To a caged bird like Yamato, Oden was the embodiment of what it meant to be free.
This is why she tells Ace:
This line is the essence of Yamato's character. This pursuit of freedom, is the most important defining trait about Yamato.
@Inzziuma.
I think it's fitting with her character as presented.
Oden is the ideal she aspires to. I think this is best captured here in these two scenes:
Yamato doesn't want to be free because Oden was free; she wants to be Oden because Oden was free.
Yamato has been a prisoner since childhood. She's lived her life physically shackled to Onigashima and mentally shackled to the role that Kaido had fashioned for her. She wanted to be free from those shackles.
Oden's life inspired her. He was someone that wasn't bound by anything. Someone that lived his life as he pleased. To a caged bird like Yamato, Oden was the embodiment of what it meant to be free.
This is why she tells Ace:
This line is the essence of Yamato's character. This pursuit of freedom, is the most important defining trait about Yamato.
@Inzziuma.
No it’s not. Luffy has always known, at least subconsciously that he and the rest of the world are not free and can never be free while they live under the Celestial Dragons. He learned that lesson the hard way when Sabo ‘died’ trying to live outside his parents’ toxic expectations. For Luffy, the pursuit of freedom has always had real, tangible consequences. It is in no way an abstract or feel good pipe dream for him.
Your poll has the option for people to opine that Yamatrash is a crazy demented bitch for prattling on about Oden. I was responding to that question.
Also, I did engage with the topic. I don’t care if Oden is an abstract ideal to her (he’s not, otherwise she wouldn’t be pretending to be Momo’s father). I don’t care how she sees him, I don’t care what kind of nutty delusions her developmentally stunted brain came up with in 30 years of unemployment and zero responsibilities. If a character is talking crazy and being a nut job, they’re being a nut job. Doesn’t matter what kind of justification Oda or the fandom cooks up for them.
Your poll has the option for people to opine that Yamatrash is a crazy demented bitch for prattling on about Oden. I was responding to that question.
Also, I did engage with the topic. I don’t care if Oden is an abstract ideal to her (he’s not, otherwise she wouldn’t be pretending to be Momo’s father). I don’t care how she sees him, I don’t care what kind of nutty delusions her developmentally stunted brain came up with in 30 years of unemployment and zero responsibilities. If a character is talking crazy and being a nut job, they’re being a nut job. Doesn’t matter what kind of justification Oda or the fandom cooks up for them.
The toxic One Piece fanbase is making me dislike Yamato now. Not specifically Cinera nor someone like Den Den who thinks they are trash. Its just the whole Oden, gender thing going on. Everyone is at each others throats based on what Yamato prefers or what they are. Why Oda had to start this up during a very important arc in One Piece and continue to drag it out is beyond me. Just make a strong confirmation on the whole thing and be done with it. Theres a lot more important information we are getting that should be the main focus as we are nearing the end of this manga.
I think it might be more subconsciously rather than actively thinking about what Oden would do. Which is almost impossible to prove, but it would make sense. Yamato has basically grown up with Oden as his only source of inspiration, like a child reading about superheroes and then imitating to be one. Only that Yamato has been stuck in that mindset for 20 years without any new experiences of the outside world.
All these examples you're listing aren't exactly things I would say differentiate Yamato from Oden. They're things I'd believe Oden would also do in these situations without outright stating it as such. Bartolomeo might be the closest example to what Yamato is doing - worshipping Luffy, getting inspired by him and being brought to tears by his actions. Yet he is still doing things that would be unimaginable for someone like Luffy, like mocking an entire audience by peeing in front of them or threatening to cut someone's tongue off.
In contrast we have Yamato, saying he's obviously Momo's father or that he's a man because Oden was one as well. That's nothing an independent person would say.
All these examples you're listing aren't exactly things I would say differentiate Yamato from Oden. They're things I'd believe Oden would also do in these situations without outright stating it as such. Bartolomeo might be the closest example to what Yamato is doing - worshipping Luffy, getting inspired by him and being brought to tears by his actions. Yet he is still doing things that would be unimaginable for someone like Luffy, like mocking an entire audience by peeing in front of them or threatening to cut someone's tongue off.
In contrast we have Yamato, saying he's obviously Momo's father or that he's a man because Oden was one as well. That's nothing an independent person would say.
It is a little thing. It's part of her character yes, but it's not everything. She desires Freedom for both herself and her role model Oden... she was trapped for 20 years by her father, handcuffed with Explosives. She's been just as oppressed as Wano has and is using Odens name to make a stand.
You can have an opinion and I'm free to call it shit.
You base your opinion as if this is the real world. If you're looking for realism, One Piece isn't for you as it Overexaggerates so go find another manga.
You can have an opinion and I'm free to call it shit.
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You base your opinion as if this is the real world. If you're looking for realism, One Piece isn't for you as it Overexaggerates so go find another manga.
I didn't say is everything, but to dismiss it as a little thing is just false. It's like saying Sanji's simping is a little thing, breaking news if the reader is being constantly reminded of a character trait it is not a little thing.
None of this matters, her wanting to be like someone is totally fine. Her constantly talking about that person, saying she is that person is annoying and personally a terrible message to send. You don't need to be someone else to achieve your goals.
Someone is hurt I don't idolize Yamato lmao
None of this matters, her wanting to be like someone is totally fine. Her constantly talking about that person, saying she is that person is annoying and personally a terrible message to send. You don't need to be someone else to achieve your goals.
Someone is hurt I don't idolize Yamato lmao