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Of course, Who's Who can compete with Jinbei. I honestly don't know why people are surprised by this. We know since FI, that Jinbei is around FI g2/3 Luffy level and veteran level characters could compete with that version of Luffy(even old Chinjao could push him to mid diff, Ulti almost forced current Luffy to use G4 with help from Pageone), and Who's Who should be superior to Ulti

Obviously Jinbei is going to win, but never understood why people are surprised Who's Who can give him a fight
It only made sense, Kaido's executives were hyped by CP0, I hope we get their hybrid forms sooner.
 
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humanbeing

Luffy's being unconscious might not be accurate maybe just a state of mind where only his mind works but not his body
Kaido himself were able to sense that Luffy was still looking down on him , he was able to use his CoC haki against those fodder, and now he actively contacting Momo and telling him to tell the others that he will come back and win.
 
All the arguments for the raid failing are the same as for the alliance reaching a low point.
For the raid to fail and for everyone to get imprisoned and etcetera is to kill the entire momentum of the arc, in my opinion.
I don't think the raid will fail anymore bit I hope that THIS wasn't the low point. Luffy sinks into the sea, morale is low, next chapter everything is alright again...
 
Yea. Just as at one point it was Luffy vs Kaido 1v1, Nami vs Ulti 1v1, Chopper vs Queen 1v1, Usopp vs Page One 1v1,...

Stop getting deluded by one hype moment and look at the bigger picture. Oda does it over and over again this Arc and y'all keep falling for his fake match ups lmao.
You really thinking that Oda made this whole epic entrance and conversation, bringing the connections between Judge and Sanji, for nothing?
There is no entrance and build up like that except for Luffy punching Kaido on Chapter 1000
Thats similar to Sanji vs Jabra
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Okay, so what. Zoro gets healed and tells Marco that he would take on King? Zoro doesn't want to fight King, he only wants to fight Kaido:
No, a new situation can arise that requires Marco to go somewhere else or Zoro doesn't fight King at all and Marco 1v1s him. I'm fine with both. I'm arguing against those saying that Marco gets stomped by King.
  • Weevil doesn't know that Marco went to Wano.
  • Weevil has no reason to show up on Wano.
  • Weevil has no way of making it up to Wano, let alone up to Onigashima.

Weevil showing up on Wano is about as reasonable
Nope,
  • Weevil/his mom want to go to Luffy first to find out where Marco is and Luffy's whereabouts were published in the newspaper since Dressrosa.
  • Luffy and Marco are on the same island.
  • Miss bucking sailed on the same ship as WB 40 years ago which obviously means she was a rocks pirate. This arc is the reunion of the Rocks pirates.
So Weevil definitely has more reason to show up than Mihawk and they actually make much sense too.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

Yeah it isn´t like downplaying Jinbe, he is still one of the strongest Shichibukai(old shichibukai),the thing is just the Yonkou member get underestimate to much again. The calamity are the top and I can understand when people only hype them, but the flyers aren´t jokes too.
Pageone and Ulti give Luffy a for shorttime a hard battle, WsW is the strongest and next to the calamity one of the major members.
He fighting off Jinbe is not surprising me, no way that he get mid diffed by Jinbe. People wank to much Jinbe(@Geo and @sanjikun ) and expect to much of him, now they stand face to face the hard reaility.
WsW has still to use his hybrid form or even perhaps a stronger form. It probably need water Jinbe to face off and beat WsW or a powerup.



My though:
Calamity and flyers switch soon to hybrid forms.
Then probably the calamity and probably WsW using their awakenend forms and Kaido is the last one who reveal his strongest form.
My though.


Ulti was the first to use the hybrid, if she used the awakening too... She could even get back in the game, and this has a high chance of happening since NAMI now has ZEUS... Something she needed, to increase her attack potential. At this point, I also agree, it's time for the beast pirates to use the hybrid, but I don't know about the awakening, they won't use the awakened hybrid, the awakening will be used later on when their hybrid forms aren't doing the job, so we will maybe have a double page of all of them.

KAIDO's awakening will be guarded until we reach the capital and the island lands, he will no longer be restricted as he bothers to destroy his castle/island.


But what you said could happen too, ODA revealing the hybrid forms of the fighters and exploring awakening at the same time, with KAIDO being the last.
 
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