Future Events King & Queen
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I don't want zoro to fight king cuz it gonna nerf king and yc1's. If zoro beats king injured the down play would reach galactic proportions. It makes sense to me for marco to fight and beat king then use the rest of his strength to heal luffy and/or zoro as much as he can before bowing out. If zoro takes on king marco probably goes to kaido or BM to get swatted down sinces he's already injured, isn't on their level to begin with, and already used alot of regen. Even then zoro more than likely still plays a role even after taking down king. I just want marco to get a clear W on panel and to play his role in the war. He clearly wants this to be a war for the new gen and is playing support. Oda hyping zoro again with king is cool with me but I prefer marco to take down king as it makes more sense in the story rn.
I’m not personally worried about de-hyping YC1s going forward because after this arc the structure of the remaining Yonko crews appears to be very different than what we have now.
I subscribe to the opinion that Vice Captains and standard YC1 are not equal. The gaps between Roger-Rayleigh, Shanks-Beckman, Luffy-Zoro, Kidd-Killer, and I think we can fairly assume Blackbeard-Shiryu are by all indications different than the gaps between Bigmom-Katakuri & Kaido-King.
For the next remaining arcs Vice Captain hype is way more relevant than YC1 hype IMO.
And while I can understand wanting Marco to get his W, I’ll always personally prefer a W for Zoro, but that is very subjective and up to taste.
I subscribe to the opinion that Vice Captains and standard YC1 are not equal. The gaps between Roger-Rayleigh, Shanks-Beckman, Luffy-Zoro, Kidd-Killer, and I think we can fairly assume Blackbeard-Shiryu are by all indications different than the gaps between Bigmom-Katakuri & Kaido-King.
For the next remaining arcs Vice Captain hype is way more relevant than YC1 hype IMO.
And while I can understand wanting Marco to get his W, I’ll always personally prefer a W for Zoro, but that is very subjective and up to taste.
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I agree VC have a very different portrayal than yc1. VC are portrayed as next to the captain pretty much being a second captain on the crew while yc1 are viewed as the most capable after the captain usually by a huge margin between captain and yc1.
To me I don't want future yc1's or retuning yc1's to get shit on because zoro while injured can beat 1. It dehypes future match ups and the characters themselves. And yes I think going forward the VC position will be made very clear especially when luffy meets shanks again
Last I would agree with you on zoro if marco wasn't in the arc. I just think it makes more sense for marco to beat king and heal zoro/luffy than for marco to be beaten out of the arc by kaido or BM yet still have zoro play a role in their loss. It just flows better than a zoro hype train to me. It fits marco playing support to the new gen so they can beat the yonko instead of throwing that role he clearly cut out zoro so zoro can still do the same thing just taking down king in the process.
To me I don't want future yc1's or retuning yc1's to get shit on because zoro while injured can beat 1. It dehypes future match ups and the characters themselves. And yes I think going forward the VC position will be made very clear especially when luffy meets shanks again
Last I would agree with you on zoro if marco wasn't in the arc. I just think it makes more sense for marco to beat king and heal zoro/luffy than for marco to be beaten out of the arc by kaido or BM yet still have zoro play a role in their loss. It just flows better than a zoro hype train to me. It fits marco playing support to the new gen so they can beat the yonko instead of throwing that role he clearly cut out zoro so zoro can still do the same thing just taking down king in the process.
It does when one is much skilled than the other, doriki just measure's their phisical ability taking out of the equasion stuff like DF's and skill with weapons. What does Jabura df does for him asside than elevating his base stats? meanwhile Kaku's df gives him a completely new and much deadlier means of atacking in the form of a long neck on top of also increasing hsi base stats. Plus the measurement of his doriki was done when kaku was not holding any sword, even though we already know he uses 2 long swords when he is serious.
It does when one is much skilled than the other, doriki just measure's their phisical ability taking out of the equasion stuff like DF's and skill with weapons. What does Jabura df does for him asside than elevating his base stats? meanwhile Kaku's df gives him a completely new and much deadlier means of atacking in the form of a long neck on top of also increasing hsi base stats. Plus the measurement of his doriki was done when kaku was not holding any sword, even though we already know he uses 2 long swords when he is serious.
Both of them have fighting styles beyond simple rokushiki - Jabra has iron body kung fu and Kaku has 4 sword style
Kaku would at most extreme diff Jabra.
Stop lying, Jabura's only advanced techinique was his walking tekai and thats it, once you get past its durability he is pretty much useless in everything else. Why do he need claws when he already can use shigan, unless his shigan was shit to begin with? Zoro was able to hold both of them off while using Ussop as a sword. 4 sword style in base, but he was also using his neck while in DF, he even slashed the entire building with it.
[QUOTE="Rekien, post: 1498331, member: 2851"]It does when one is much skilled than the other, doriki just measure's their phisical ability taking out of the equasion stuff like DF's and skill with weapons. What does Jabura df does for him asside than elevating his base stats? meanwhile Kaku's df gives him a completely new and much deadlier means of atacking in the form of a long neck on top of also increasing hsi base stats. Plus the measurement of his doriki was done when kaku was not holding any sword, even though we already know he uses 2 long swords when he is serious.
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There's no proof of the bolded. Doriki impacts the effectiveness of Rokushiki techinquees
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The zoan form makes his Rokushiki techniques stronger. I don't see the point of brining up how Kaku's sword wasn't taken into account when Jabura's df wasn't taken into account either.
[/QUOTE]There's no proof of the bolded. Doriki impacts the effectiveness of Rokushiki techinquees
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The zoan form makes his Rokushiki techniques stronger. I don't see the point of brining up how Kaku's sword wasn't taken into account when Jabura's df wasn't taken into account either.
Why do he need claws when he already can use shigan, unless his shigan was shit to begin with? Zoro was able to hold both of them off while using Ussop as a sword. 4 sword style in base, but he was also using his neck while in DF, he even slashed the entire building with it.
Stop lying, Jabura's only advanced techinique was his walking tekai and thats it, once you get past its durability he is pretty much useless.
Stop lying, Jabura's only advanced techinique was his walking tekai and thats it, once you get past its durability he is pretty much useless.
Luccis finger pistol in hybrid: Pierced through Luffy.
The finger pistols get a massive boost.
Zoro didn’t hold either off. They literally sat their and messed around until Zoro and Usopp were free.
Ten finger pistol, Tempest Kick Lone Wolf, Tempest Kick Lupus Fall and his six iron body kung fu abilities. But hey at least Kaku has “Pasta Machine.”
Because Jabura is the one who says DF's are not taken into account when measuring it, let me remind you that Kaku was measured BEFORE eating his DF, and wasnt with his swords either.
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Oh, sorry i forgot Sanji was made of rubber too....
He literaly did fend off both of them, showing how irrelevant Jabura is.
All using his walking tekai, as i said, one advanced roukushiki technique.
Pasta machine is better than all that crap and its the weakest atack he used, if Kaku decided to use the slash he used in the building on Jabura his weak af tekai wouldnt be able to hold, not to mention his shigan using his giraffe neck, thats more powerfull than anything Jabura could ever hope to replicate claws or no claws.
Face it mate, Sanji was never on the same level as Zoro and your pathetic attempts of making it sound like he is, or was, are just plain retarded.
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Oh, sorry i forgot Sanji was made of rubber too....
He literaly did fend off both of them, showing how irrelevant Jabura is.
All using his walking tekai, as i said, one advanced roukushiki technique.
Pasta machine is better than all that crap and its the weakest atack he used, if Kaku decided to use the slash he used in the building on Jabura his weak af tekai wouldnt be able to hold, not to mention his shigan using his giraffe neck, thats more powerfull than anything Jabura could ever hope to replicate claws or no claws.
Face it mate, Sanji was never on the same level as Zoro and your pathetic attempts of making it sound like he is, or was, are just plain retarded.
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Because Jabura is the one who says DF's are not taken into account when measuring it, let me remind you that Kaku was measured BEFORE eating his DF, and wasnt with his swords either.
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Oh, sorry i forgot Sanji was made of rubber too....
He literaly did fend off both of them, showing how irrelevant Jabura is.
All using his walking tekai, as i said, one advanced roukushiki technique.
Pasta machine is better than all that crap and its the weakest atack he used, if Kaku decided to use the slash he used in the building on Jabura his weak af tekai wouldnt be able to hold, not to mention his shigan using his giraffe neck, thats more powerfull than anything Jabura could ever hope to replicate claws or no claws.
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Oh, sorry i forgot Sanji was made of rubber too....
He literaly did fend off both of them, showing how irrelevant Jabura is.
All using his walking tekai, as i said, one advanced roukushiki technique.
Pasta machine is better than all that crap and its the weakest atack he used, if Kaku decided to use the slash he used in the building on Jabura his weak af tekai wouldnt be able to hold, not to mention his shigan using his giraffe neck, thats more powerfull than anything Jabura could ever hope to replicate claws or no claws.
Kakus swordsmanship is at the level of his dorki. Both Jabura and Kaku get a boost from thier dfs, the gap doesn't change at all.
How much spoon-feding do you need to understand a chinese children cartoon