General & Others Understanding that some things are exclusive to Luffy and Zoro in the Strawhat crew.
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Bitch too afraid to hurt the celestial dragon to the point where he just kicked the gun out of his hands withoud doing any harm at all.
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Your comparrisons are terrible and just plain WRONG.
Bounty:
Luffy=Got a high bounty due to his own achievements.
Zoro=Got a high bounty due to his own achievements.
Sanji=Got a high bounty because of his dad.
Luffy= Fights Crocodile, Zoro nor Sanji could beat crocodille(nor Luffy as he only beaten crocodille after losing 2 times, only winning the 3th due to luck).
Zoro= Fights mr1, Luffy nor Sanji could beat Mr1
Sanji= Fights mr2, Luffy and Zoro could easily trash Mr2, in fact Mr1 easily trashed Mr2 withoud soo much as a sweat.
Luffy= Fights Enel and wins due to his matchup.
Zoro= Gets 2 1v1 fights.
Sanji=Only fights against a fat dude with Luffy helping him.
Luffy= gear 2 and 3
Zoro= Gorila arms and Ashura
Sanji= only diable janble.
As for Jabura and Kaku, its common knowledge that Kaku was much stronger than Jabura as his doriki was measured BEFORE getting his DF, nor was he using his blades when he was measured, of course Zoro is as strong as Sanji withoud his swords.
And what even is that last comparrison? What are you even trying to compare? Sanji didnt fight any of those opponents before comming to wano and he didnt even finish any of those fights.
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Your comparrisons are terrible and just plain WRONG.
Bounty:
Luffy=Got a high bounty due to his own achievements.
Zoro=Got a high bounty due to his own achievements.
Sanji=Got a high bounty because of his dad.
Luffy= Fights Crocodile, Zoro nor Sanji could beat crocodille(nor Luffy as he only beaten crocodille after losing 2 times, only winning the 3th due to luck).
Zoro= Fights mr1, Luffy nor Sanji could beat Mr1
Sanji= Fights mr2, Luffy and Zoro could easily trash Mr2, in fact Mr1 easily trashed Mr2 withoud soo much as a sweat.
Luffy= Fights Enel and wins due to his matchup.
Zoro= Gets 2 1v1 fights.
Sanji=Only fights against a fat dude with Luffy helping him.
Luffy= gear 2 and 3
Zoro= Gorila arms and Ashura
Sanji= only diable janble.
As for Jabura and Kaku, its common knowledge that Kaku was much stronger than Jabura as his doriki was measured BEFORE getting his DF, nor was he using his blades when he was measured, of course Zoro is as strong as Sanji withoud his swords.
And what even is that last comparrison? What are you even trying to compare? Sanji didnt fight any of those opponents before comming to wano and he didnt even finish any of those fights.
Thats literaly the name of the place he hit, not a mode that boost his strenght like Gorila arms do.
Of course i am biased, just as you are, the only diference is that im transparent about it and have facts to prove my points unlike you who brings nothing but bad comparissons and headcannon to the tabble.
Of course i am biased, just as you are, the only diference is that im transparent about it and have facts to prove my points unlike you who brings nothing but bad comparissons and headcannon to the tabble.
Thats literaly the name of the place he hit, not a mdoe that boost his strenght like Gorila arms do.
Of course i am biased, just as you are, the only diference is that im transparent about it and have facts to prove my points unlike you who brings nothing but bad comparissons and headcannon to the tabble.
Of course i am biased, just as you are, the only diference is that im transparent about it and have facts to prove my points unlike you who brings nothing but bad comparissons and headcannon to the tabble.
Last time i checked Zoro was able to hurt kaido with his CoA. There is no indication whatsoever that Luffy has better CoA, Saying Zoro is not a CoA specialist is literaly going against what the author himself has said.
Soo denying it is just plain wrong.
You don't need CoA to cut Kaido, you only need enough AP. CoA gives a boost in AP, therefore scabbards and Zoro could cut him because they had enough AP.
Kaido skin is not hax, is hard, that's all.
Luffy has Advanced CoA and better feats with his Haki than Zoro, so ofc he is above Zoro lmao. You must be a complete moron or something.
Author said Zoro is more proeficient in his CoA than in his CoO. That doesn't mean he is a specialist among other people regarding CoA. Even your comprehension sucks lol.
@Mr. Anderson this dumbass argument on kaido not needing ryou to be cut seem very familiar
I just proved to you that Zoro got 2 powerups, why you keep denying that simple fact? I trash Sanji to no end because i have the ammo to trash Sanji to no end, and at every arc Oda just keeps giving us more. Many instances in the manga itself shows how close Zoro actualy is to Luffy, even going as far as to make both characters seriously fight each other. No such thing ever happened with Sanji and Zoro.
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Soo according to you, Zoro somehow has MUCH higher AP than Luffy even though his CoA is weaker? Luffy couldnt even tickle Kaido withoud Adv CoA, but Zoro can slash the fuck out of him with his AP alone?
Damn man, what did you smoke?
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Soo according to you, Zoro somehow has MUCH higher AP than Luffy even though his CoA is weaker? Luffy couldnt even tickle Kaido withoud Adv CoA, but Zoro can slash the fuck out of him with his AP alone?
Damn man, what did you smoke?
Luffy got 2 chapters named after his power ups, Zoro and Sanji got 1.....literally 388 "Gear second", 421 "Gear third", Zoro 417 "Asura" and Sanji 415 "Heat up"(referring to DJ). All of them got new attacks, Sanji used those kicks he showed against Jabra for the first time against others as well, it wasn't exclusive to him. While Luffy is getting Gear 4th, FS, AdvArmament, AdvKings and potentially another powerup soon, you have Zoro and Sanji getting powerful tools in the same arc so they can catch up.....it's so blatant.
Soo according to you, Zoro somehow has MUCH higher AP than Luffy even though his CoA is weaker? Luffy couldnt even tickle Kaido withoud Adv CoA, but Zoro can slash the fuck out of him with his AP alone?
Damn man, what did you smoke?
Damn man, what did you smoke?
The fuck are talking about dumbass?
And Zoro could have greater AP than Luffy if the force adquired with his swordsmanship techniques gives enough power for that.
AP (attack power) after all is only the combination of physical force + martial arts/swordsmanship/devil fruit power like rubber one (which increases momentum by stretching and achieving greater speed) + Haki + whatever else which can increase the final output.
Haki is only one part of the total. So Zoro, or anyone else, can have greater AP than anyone despite having weaker CoA, since he would make up for it with greater physical force, or stronger martials arts, or whatever.
That's why Luffy G2 without Haki AP is > Boa sisters AP with Haki, because his fruit is making up for that disadvantage.
I hear a lot of people saying other Strawhats are gonna get conquerors haki/ryuo ext..... I think people need to understand there are things Oda only does for Luffy and Zoro........in this thread were going to go over this in detail .
Luffy and Zoro are the:
1. Only Strawhats with Fighting oriented Dreams
2. Only Straw hats that achieved the title of Supernova. (Not saying other strawhats couldn't but the ones Oda let be supernova are Luffy and Zoro.)
3. Which is Why only Luffy and Zoro Among the Strawhats got to be on the roof in the Kaido fight.
4. Only Strawhats with Parallels to Legends.
5. Only Strawhats who were willing to hit a Celestial Dragon
6. Only Strawhats with Ryuo Manipulation in their fighting styles.
7. And now their likely going to be the only Strawhats with Conquerors Haki
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Which also makes Luffy and Zoro the only Strawhats that can use all 3 forms of Haki.
This thread is not to downplay other Strawhats but people often forget Luffy and Zoro are the ones we started with. They are going to attain certain things other strawhats will not , and thats ok.
Never forget how the story started.......
Leave your thoughts
Luffy and Zoro are the:
1. Only Strawhats with Fighting oriented Dreams
2. Only Straw hats that achieved the title of Supernova. (Not saying other strawhats couldn't but the ones Oda let be supernova are Luffy and Zoro.)
3. Which is Why only Luffy and Zoro Among the Strawhats got to be on the roof in the Kaido fight.
4. Only Strawhats with Parallels to Legends.
5. Only Strawhats who were willing to hit a Celestial Dragon
6. Only Strawhats with Ryuo Manipulation in their fighting styles.
7. And now their likely going to be the only Strawhats with Conquerors Haki
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Which also makes Luffy and Zoro the only Strawhats that can use all 3 forms of Haki.
This thread is not to downplay other Strawhats but people often forget Luffy and Zoro are the ones we started with. They are going to attain certain things other strawhats will not , and thats ok.
Never forget how the story started.......
Leave your thoughts
Usopp wants to be a Brave Warrior of the sea.
2. Only straw hats were given title of supernvoa
It’s a bounty based title that wasn’t planned until just before implementation in sabaody. Sanji and Usopp have bigger bounties than a few of them.
3. Only straw hats with parallels to legends
Can someone please explain the Rayleigh Zoro parallel because those two are nothing alike…
4. Only to hit a celestial dragon
Sanji and Usopp also did this. Sanji did it to protect others and Usopp by accident. So this is just a bad point.
5. Only conquerors
Hard doubt Sanji and Usopp will as well
Being brave, not the strongest. You can be brave but still be weak as fuck.
Sanji got his because of his father and Usopp got his because he was at the right place in the right moment.
Yeah, they aren't swordsman, they aren't the first mate, they aren't CoC users, they aren't the right hand man of the PK (or future PK), they don't have the same exact scar in one eye, they aren't comparable to their captains... etc. All the stuff that I stated was just a dream.
Usopp felt on one and Sanji kicked the gun of one of them. 1 was without any intention and the other one wasn't even a direct attack to the CD, and even if it was, that doesn't take away the fact that he didn't dare to do such a thing before Luffy punched one.
As of right now, they are the only ones.
Sanji got his because of his father and Usopp got his because he was at the right place in the right moment.
Yeah, they aren't swordsman, they aren't the first mate, they aren't CoC users, they aren't the right hand man of the PK (or future PK), they don't have the same exact scar in one eye, they aren't comparable to their captains... etc. All the stuff that I stated was just a dream.
Usopp felt on one and Sanji kicked the gun of one of them. 1 was without any intention and the other one wasn't even a direct attack to the CD, and even if it was, that doesn't take away the fact that he didn't dare to do such a thing before Luffy punched one.
As of right now, they are the only ones.
Luffy Red Roc AP > Zoro's strongest move AP
The fuck are talking about dumbass?
And Zoro could have greater AP than Luffy if the force adquired with his swordsmanship techniques gives enough power for that.
AP (attack power) after all is only the combination of physical force + martial arts/swordsmanship/devil fruit power like rubber one (which increases momentum by stretching and achieving greater speed) + Haki + whatever else which can increase the final output.
Haki is only one part of the total. So Zoro, or anyone else, can have greater AP than anyone despite having weaker CoA, since he would make up for it with greater physical force, or stronger martials arts, or whatever.
That's why Luffy G2 without Haki AP is > Boa sisters AP with Haki, because his fruit is making up for that disadvantage.
The fuck are talking about dumbass?
And Zoro could have greater AP than Luffy if the force adquired with his swordsmanship techniques gives enough power for that.
AP (attack power) after all is only the combination of physical force + martial arts/swordsmanship/devil fruit power like rubber one (which increases momentum by stretching and achieving greater speed) + Haki + whatever else which can increase the final output.
Haki is only one part of the total. So Zoro, or anyone else, can have greater AP than anyone despite having weaker CoA, since he would make up for it with greater physical force, or stronger martials arts, or whatever.
That's why Luffy G2 without Haki AP is > Boa sisters AP with Haki, because his fruit is making up for that disadvantage.
You keep contradicting yourself in the same post LOL, at least answer me this:
Does Zoro also have adv.CoA, or is his AP soo much higher than Luffy's that he can harm Kaido withoud needing adv CoA?
Wich one is it?
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Soo its not a powerup if Oda didnt make a chapter named after it?
Those kicks didnt had anythign special behind them, its just the name of the area where the kick is landing, nothing more, soo no, its not a powerup, not even you belive in the garbage you are saying.
Its not Zoro getting a powerup to catch to Luffy, it was Luffy getting multiple powerups to catchup to Zoro and get slightly ahead of him again, reminder, Zoro didnt use Asura up until that point since the timeskip, and he could always do that. From the timeskip Zoro was stronger than Luffy.
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