General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[JoSeungHun7335]

AB Brook
CD Chopper
EF Franky
GH Hancock
IJ Jinbei
KL Luffy
MN Nami
OP Oden (Yamato)
QR Robin
ST Sanji
UV Ussop
WX Water Law
YZ Zoro

I can't think of any other way for this classic to work unless we're getting more Nakama that haven't been introduced yet.

One of the things that against the idea about Law joining is that Law is also a D. Until now, there is no will of D holder besides Luffy himself in Straw Hat, and that might bring the purpose in future arc of why Luffy is the sole D in Straw Hats. Having another D in the crew might destroy Luffy’s purpose(not to mention Luffy is a D and the captain), so until it’s revealed in the future, Law’s chance of joining the crew is pretty much 50:50

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I think this is a coincidence and less of something Oda plans.

I think Sigran wants to make a connection with alphabet theory. So far the alphabet theory isn’t 100% true, but it’s not wrong either.

 

[Roo]

I always liked the idea of Vivi coming back but Oda needs a way to make her stronger. The Straw Hats are fighting Yonko and Admirals from now on

 

[Sigran101]

I think this is a coincidence and less of something Oda plans.

I'm not saying I believe it, I just thought it could be something to discuss that's not the same old arguments for and against Carrot and Yamato.

 

[Rootbeer]

akes one to know one..

2 more resemblance

Carrot and Pudding

Carrot and Kanjuro

 

[Sigran101]

Well of course Oda then had Luffy recruiting just about anything supernatural that moved like the zombie tree and zombie horse, as if to make it less predictable as to who would end up joining despite what he said to Brook.

You can't possibly be suggesting that the zombie tree recruitment was in any way comparable to the scenes with Brook at the beginning of the arc.

 

[Electricmastro]

You can't possibly be suggesting that the zombie tree recruitment was in any way comparable to the scenes with Brook at the beginning of the arc.

Didn't stop some of these people from thinking otherwise back then. lol

http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=11352

 

[Sigran101]

Didn't stop some of these people from thinking otherwise back then. lol

http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=11352

That doesn't make it reasonable. People go through mental gymnastics to convince themselves a character isn't joining literally every time a new Nakama pops up.

 

[Electricmastro]

That doesn't make it reasonable. People go through mental gymnastics to convince themselves a character isn't joining literally every time a new Nakama pops up.

I didn't say it was reasonable. lol

 

[Sigran101]

I didn't say it was reasonable. lol

Oh, okay I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that made Brook not obvious. Were you just making fun of the people who denied it?

 

[Electricmastro]

Oh, okay I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that made Brook not obvious. Were you just making fun of the people who denied it?

More so showing how people can be misdirected so to come off more as unpredictable.

 

[thedarkdragon11]

AB Brook
CD Chopper
EF Franky
GH Hancock
IJ Jinbei
KL Luffy
MN Nami
OP Oden (Yamato)
QR Robin
ST Sanji
UV Ussop
WX Water Law
YZ Zoro

I can't think of any other way for this classic to work unless we're getting more Nakama that haven't been introduced yet.

I think I should comfort Carrot4Nakama and Caribou4Nakama fans this time and "help" them:

AB Brook
CD Chopper
EF Franky
GH "Grass Eater"
IJ Jinbe
KL Luffy
MN Nami
OP "Oden"
QR Robin
ST Sanji
UV Usopp
WX "Wet Haired"
YZ Zoro

:cheers:

 

[Zihark95]

The ''playing on expectations for surprise'' argument would become a cyclical meme where no one could join if it applied to Yamato since that argument actually kills Carrot as the original ''makes sense'' character with Yamato introduced as the actual surprise recruit, basically Vivi=Carrot and Robin=Yamato.

The one piece magazine talks about 10 nakamas just after yamato been introduced put in front and that she ask luffy to be in the crew. It would be spoil if it was just yamato.

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i do not care about what jmena said. I think the red herring is to think that only yamato will join the crew when oda can easily join make both carrot and yamato joins. Look at most youtuber they think since yamato might join the crew then now carrot is out of question and there still people that take what the one piece magazine said at heart.

 

[Ponelglyph]

The one piece magazine talks about 10 nakamas just after yamato been introduced put in front and that she ask luffy to be in the crew. It would be spoil if it was just yamato.

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i do not care about what jmena said. I think the red herring is to think that only yamato will join the crew when oda can easily join make both carrot and yamato joins. Look at most youtuber they think since yamato might join the crew then now carrot is out of question and there still people that take what the one piece magazine said at heart.

compared to carrot, I do prefer if Caribou join SH. He much earlier want to join SH since at SA. And some more, he have logia DF, Also, he did have soft spot showed by Oda in his cover page storyline.

 

[Garp the Fist]

Well of course Oda then had Luffy recruiting just about anything supernatural that moved like the zombie tree and zombie horse, as if to make it less predictable as to who would end up joining despite what he said to Brook.

Not really. Brook got a massive doublespread, a full chapter then devoted to him and his personality, we had the mystery built up over his missing shadow and the man who took it. Him joining was immediately obvious

The zombie tree got like one joke panel.

 

[dizzy2341]

Lol, the comparison to Brook literally serves as further reason for why Yamao is likely a red herring.

You can often tell what moments are important simply by the panelling, how they are presented on the page. You could remove the dialogue entirely and still recognise a stand out moment simply by the layout of the page and design of the panel. Just compare the two:

Spoiler

So in one corner we've got the climax of what the whole chapter was building up to. A cliffhanger presented as a double page spread with minimal dialogue and huge onomatopoeia

vs

A slim panel within an overly cluttered page that's seemingly forgotten as quickly as it appears. Even the phrasing is clunky, lol.

Spoiler

You don't even need to know what Nami's saying to be able to tell that it's probably something significant.

And of course as we know, Brook initially declined the offer to join because of personal reasons which were only resolved after an emotional story arc that spanned across all of Thriller Bark. You've got the same deal with every other straw hat.

Yes, it's obvious who is going to join the crew, but that's not because Oda straight up has the characters state word for word that they are going to join. It's because of the stuff beyond the surface level. Their dreams, backstories, character arcs etc. that make it obvious. In every single case Oda used some form of misdirection in order to conceal the truth.

This video explains it very well and why Yamao's case is totally different from actual straw hats.

 

[Un-amed]

Lol, the comparison to Brook literally serves as further reason for why Yamao is likely a red herring.

You can often tell what moments are important simply by the panelling, how they are presented on the page. You could remove the dialogue entirely and still recognise a stand out moment simply by the layout of the page and design of the panel. Just compare the two:

Spoiler

So in one corner we've got the climax of what the whole chapter was building up to. A cliffhanger presented as a double page spread with minimal dialogue and huge onomatopoeia

vs

A slim panel within an overly cluttered page that's seemingly forgotten as quickly as it appears. Even the phrasing is clunky, lol.

Spoiler

You don't even need to know what Nami's saying to be able to tell that it's probably something significant.

And of course as we know, Brook initially declined the offer to join because of personal reasons which were only resolved after an emotional story arc that spanned across all of Thriller Bark. You've got the same deal with every other straw hat.

Yes, it's obvious who is going to join the crew, but that's not because Oda straight up has the characters state word for word that they are going to join. It's because of the stuff beyond the surface level. Their dreams, backstories, character arcs etc. that make it obvious. In every single case Oda used some form of misdirection in order to conceal the truth.

This video explains it very well and why Yamao's case is totally different from actual straw hats.

What i really found interesting is the Yamao part, how Luffy knows her name, and knows her interest to sail with Him, and still calls her Yamao, like an ally... Like Law...

 

[Zihark95]

I guess is because im new so nobody cares about what i say. Oda is not using yamato as a red herring he would not develop her and introduce her that late just to troll us. With all that happening right now if yamato was only a secondary character he would not waste time on her.

 

[Kurodiamondo]

I guess is because im new so nobody cares about what i say. Oda is not using yamato as a red herring he would not develop her and introduce her that late just to troll us. With all that happening right now if yamato was only a secondary character he would not waste time on her.

Not really, when it come to new user I actually read their post. It's just I myself just too tired to have real discussion about C vs Y. No yamato or carrot chapter = no new discussion material. Im too bored I can even push hiyori for nakama at this point. Lol

Anw, Yamato doesnt felt like secondary character when she got some focus in recent chapters

 

[thedarkdragon11]

Do you guys really think that it's logical in a narrative for someone way inferior than Jinbe to join the crew this late? You don't enter the NW, challenge the best of the best by adding a liability with you... It's about quality... No room for a massive downgrade... If somebody is to join at this point, it has to be someone with as minimal development as possible... Don't expect someone inferior to the mid tiers of the crew to catchup without a miracle... Someone like that needs like 300 focus chapters which we know will never happen...

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Do you guys really think that it's logical in a narrative for someone way inferior than Jinbe to join the crew this late? You don't enter the NW, challenge the best of the best by adding a liability with you... It's about quality... No room for a massive downgrade... If somebody is to join at this point, it has to be someone with as minimal development as possible... Don't expect someone inferior to the mid tiers of the crew to catchup without a miracle... Someone like that needs like 300 focus chapters which we know will never happen...

The straw hats don’t need big power houses. Luffy doesn’t care about strength when having someone join he just cares if they’ll be fun to adventure with.

There are already characters reintroduced into the story who’ve gotten significant power ups and character developments which is why people legit think Bellamy and Vivi are good candidates to join.

The monster trio is the crews power, the rest of the straw hats being TR to low commander level EOS is fine because I doubt even Rogers crew was full of commander level fighters.