Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

[Mugiwara56]

Luffy's crew in their prime can really outdo that of Roger's Shanks, and Rocks

 

[sanjikun]

You don’t seriously think Katakuri can beat King and Queen together. You’re not stupid enough to die on this hill

I see no way for those to land hits on him. Mochi Drill takes them both.

That's the power of Future Sight.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Katakuri literally said he has trouble with long fights.

If you think he can defeat two characters significantly stronger than base Luffy (who ate Kata’s attacks for 11 hours) that BOTH have higher bounties than him, in under 2 hours, you’re an idiot.

I'm not saying he will defeat both of them in a 2v1 but that he would do better than Marco because of his abilities

 

[eexpert]

Even in the face of possible death, Marco is just adjusting his glasses

Sometimes I try to adjust my glasses while not wearing them. It is inevitable.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Wow Perp still has a scar from the claws that Carrot gave him? I thought it healed

Sanji throwing Queen on his face opened it back

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

I'm not saying he will defeat both of them in a 2v1 but that he would do better than Marco because of his abilities

It’s fine if you think he’d do better, but it’s super obvious to me that this would play out almost identically, maybe a little longer.

 

[Mugiwara56]

Zoro and Sanji will defeat King and Queen before the 15 minutes .

 

[Erkan12]

Luffy's crew in their prime can really outdo that of Roger's Shanks, and Rocks

Not BB's crew and Rocks.

 

[Rivaille]

Wait…so Hawkins basically admit that he cannot beat Killer
He can just take Kidd with him while Killer is killing him

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

I see no way for those to land hits on him. Mochi Drill takes them both.

That's the power of Future Sight.

But Katakuri literally said he can’t do long fights.

Are you saying that he would beat King + Queen together in under a few hours???

 

[Geo]

- A Luffy who hasn't even learnt basic CoO could dodge Mihawk's slashes in Marineford.
- Sengoku's punch not outright killing Luffy.
- Mr 1 standing up after a Mihawk slice.
- Ace not fodder stomping Smoker in Alabasta.
- When Kanjuro escaped with Momo, any one of the people present there could easily stop. Hell, Law could've effortlessly shambled him, lol.

Oda cares about the narrative much more than actual power levels. That's just facts.

Lol non of what you mentioned are inconsistent showings.

> What made you think Sengoku's punch could kill Luffy when Kizaru's kick couldn't kill Luffy?
> What made you think M1 couldn't block a slash from Mihawk when manga has stated that a swordsman must choose to cut something?
> What made you think Ace could when Ace stated that a fight between smoke and fire would be useless?
> This is not a powerscaling feat because there was no battle.

Powerscaling is down to knowledge of the material. Oda cares about narrative just as much as the power structures established. He can't magically make Nami block Hakai because "narrative"

 

[Law-sama]

Are we discussing wether or not Kata is the most pathetic 1st commander?
If so, then yes he is

 

[Geo]

Wait…so Hawkins basically admit that he cannot beat Killer
He can just take Kidd with him while Killer is killing him

Yep .. basically proving rooftop level exists

 

[Paperchampion23]

Don't go passing your headcanon as fact



You don't even understand the point you are making.
Non of these mean powerscaling is based on narrative. In fact it proves the opposite.
These scenarios show that if you were going to powerscale Luffy I'm relation to Enel, Croc , Moria and Oars, Luffy wasn't stronger than any of them.



This shows your lack of knowledge about the manga.
Even Oda had to come out to state that there's no trade off when Luffy uses G4 that he can't move.
He can always move after G4 as the author and the manga states.
Therefore, the fact that he couldn't move against Doffy but could've against others is down to one thing "Damage"



That's why you fell victim to thinking the Tobi Roppo weren't defeated.
Everything is based on the plot. Powerscaling is based on the plot. Growth warranted by plot is always demonstrated / stated...growth warranted by fans is always based on headcanon

....I'm literally tell you growth is warranted by plot and "powerscaling" does not work the way you think it does. That's somehow headcanon on my end? Giving you legit examples of where powerscaling is nonexistent and is deemed by the plot? I gave you like 10 examples from the series where yes, clearly Luffy won because of plot. Lmao what nonsense are you even spouting right now?

I didn't fall victim to shit. The transitions were still off and I repeatedly mentioned that if 1022 addressed it, it made sense that the F6 were down. Now here we are. None of my arguments were about expecting WsW or Sasaki to be stronger

 

[Erkan12]

Are we discussing wether or not Kata is the most pathetic 1st commander?
Yes, he is the weakest of the 5

Nothing indicates King is better than Kata yet.

King is too easy to hit and Sanji took his attacks with no problem.

No one could touch Kata only except for Marco, who is extremely fast, faster than King and Sanji.

 

[Jailer]

Zoro and Sanji will defeat King and Queen before the 15 minutes .

Yeah either that or Momo stops the island from landing with his own clouds - allowing extension of King, Queen, Big Mom and Kaido fights. Otherwise Kaido and BM are gonna get beaten within 15 minutes then too

 

[Hanzo hattori]

Seems like Hawkins is getting mid diffed I am disappointed he needs to use one of his strong cards that he talked about in act 1

 

[BBsZehahaInTheNewWorld]

Sabaody: Hawkins says that Luffy's chance of survival never drops to zero.

Onigashima: Hawkins says that someone's chance of survival until the dawn is 1%.

Expect a "Luffy survives with great luck" 2.0 like Alabasta.

 

[Jailer]

Are we discussing wether or not Kata is the most pathetic 1st commander?
If so, then yes he is

Fireballs arw that stronk uhhh

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

God, I’ve seen so many dumb as fuck takes in the last few hours.

Queen = King
King > Kizaru
Katakuri beating King + Queen together

Can people just not fucking read???