General & Others Remember when people were saying Monster Trio is not real or Sanji got kicked out of M3?

[Mugiwara56]

The Trio monster will never go away, why do people want that to change?

Since the beginning of the manga Luffy, Zoro and Sanji have been the 3 forces of the crew.

It doesn't matter who comes in the crew it will always be Luffy against the first, Zoro against the second, Sanji against the third.

When a person enters the crew they will be weaker than each member of the monster trio individually.

Why do you think Jinbei joined the crew so late?

Because it was necessary to give Zoro and Sanji time to be a little stronger, this is why Jinbei was introuded in Strawhat in Onigashima because Zoro had Emna, Sanji had the raid follows.

Did people really think Sanji was going to lose his place in Jinbei seriously?

I know that there are a lot of Zoro fans who don't like Sanji (quite strange thing by the way because I never really a Sanji fan belittle Zoro for fun)

But you have to stop being bad times, and want to deny what has always existed since the beginning of the manga.

Luffy-Zoro-Sanji.

It won't change no matter you want it or not

 

[Zowo]

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Luffy zoro yamato>>franky jinbei sanji

 

[Sir Yasheen]

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Luffy zoro yamato>>franky jinbei sanji

You really do live up to your Avi

 

[Kromage911]

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Luffy zoro yamato>>franky jinbei sanji

Yamato isn't even in the crew, stop

Embrace the wings

 

[Fn Lucci]

What does this mean? Role setting is greater than everything

As I said, if the author thinks Jinbei is stronger than Sanji, why don't Jinbei fight the disaster?

This narrow perception is why Zoro fans think Zoro is better than Luffy for leaving scars on Kaido?

Role setting is greater than everything.

Punk Hazard and Dressrosa: back to back arcs where Sanji fought a stronger opponent than Zoro did. Is he stronger?

Zoro vs Luffy? Luffy is strong, but the difference is Zoro doesn't laugh like an idiot when someone is in the middle of kicking his ass. The scar thing is the mere difference between swords and melee: a good sword strike means ending the fight in less hits, and there's no debate about that.

 

[Finalbeta]

M3 was, at one point, real... Luffy is no longer grouped with Zoro and Sanji who are now the Wings...

I think that was already well known since they are still crew members and there's no official VC around and Luffy probably never installed one considering his personality.

But of course when it comes to the power levels things can very well be abudantly different eventually.

 

[Zowo]

Yamato isn't even in the crew, stop

Embrace the wings

She joined already
Cope L kun

 

[Kromage911]

She joined already
Cope L kun

Copium

 

[faker]

Role setting is greater than everything.

Punk Hazard and Dressrosa: back to back arcs where Sanji fought a stronger opponent than Zoro did. Is he stronger?

Zoro vs Luffy? Luffy is strong, but the difference is Zoro doesn't laugh like an idiot when someone is in the middle of kicking his ass. The scar thing is the mere difference between swords and melee: a good sword strike means ending the fight in less hits, and there's no debate about that.

Zoro and Luffy are not comparable

You just don't like Luffy's character, but you can't change Luffy's better than Zoro

Don't let prejudice affect your judgment

 

[NAMELESS]

Yeah remember that? Good time.

Not only Monster Trio is canon, the portrayal of it is immensely shown throughout the series.

First it was confirmed by Nami in Thriller Bark.

And second was Caribou in Fishman Island.

Now, Oda likes to put Luffy, Zoro and Sanji in the same panel A LOT.

Stuff like that.

In an interview, Oda puts Zoro and Sanji as the Wings of the Pirate King.

Which later got confirmed.

Then we got the "Stars" statement from Marco which also referred to both Zoro and Sanji.

And just like the interview, both Zoro and Sanji have trust on Luffy and got his back.

One wing can't be heavier than another. The Wings are indisputable placement of the crew.:cheers:

Praise be the Monster Trio!!! Long Live the Monster Trio!!!

Tagging some Monster Trio fans!

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@Kuro Ashi @TheKnightOfTheSea @Kromage911 @Vinsmoke D. Zolo @Doggo @Arrow @Chaves @Luffy is the mc @Bango🍅 @playa4321 @Tejas @DynaMight etc etc.

People,read two piece!Luffy,Zoro and Sanji dynamic will remain until the end!
LONG LIVE THE MONSTER TRIO!

 

[Tai long]

The two wings and stars of the pirate King. Here we go.

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Wings of the pirate king means they are equal.

they are equal in importance, not strength

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I feel that if Yamato joins the crew, Luffy would leave the monster trio and stand alone

 

[Rootbeer]

Yeah remember that? Good time.

Not only Monster Trio is canon, the portrayal of it is immensely shown throughout the series.

First it was confirmed by Nami in Thriller Bark.

And second was Caribou in Fishman Island.

Now, Oda likes to put Luffy, Zoro and Sanji in the same panel A LOT.

Stuff like that.

In an interview, Oda puts Zoro and Sanji as the Wings of the Pirate King.

Which later got confirmed.

Then we got the "Stars" statement from Marco which also referred to both Zoro and Sanji.

And just like the interview, both Zoro and Sanji have trust on Luffy and got his back.

One wing can't be heavier than another. The Wings are indisputable placement of the crew.:cheers:

Praise be the Monster Trio!!! Long Live the Monster Trio!!!

Tagging some Monster Trio fans!

Spoiler

@Kuro Ashi @TheKnightOfTheSea @Kromage911 @Vinsmoke D. Zolo @Doggo @Arrow @Chaves @Luffy is the mc @Bango🍅 @playa4321 @Tejas @DynaMight etc etc.

Oda was portraying Jinbei in a better light than Sanji, so it made sense to have Jinbei above.. By portrayal alone Sanji being one of the wings of Luffy, he's more important than Jinbei.. Until Sanji show better feats than Jinbei, i still have Jinbei stronger.. Also Jinbei is a Monster on the crew that's undeniable.. So its either the Monster Quartet or there will be a new dynamic, Jinbei is a Monster without question..

 

[Nel-Zel fiasco]

the problem is not people denied monster trio
the problem is oda destroying sanji and at the same time elevated zoro too much
WCI arc n now wano sanji is "looking for Prostitutes" n beaten by black maria
meanwhile zoro Scar Kaido go to rooftop n doing some Badass moment!!!
so of course Fans Ridicule Sanji n Worship Zoro
it,s all oda fault
n now oda want to fix it with "Pirate king wings" or whatever translate vis or some youtuber speww but The Damage Has Been Done

 

[Kishido]

Muahahahahahshahahahaha

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Sanji = Zoro

In terms of strength? Nah.

In terms of importance? Yes. Luffy can't become the PK without Sanji. And if Zoro becomes the WSS, it will makes Luffy looks good. Both are essential to the crew. The pillars of Strawhat you could say.

lol I only really like Zoro and Sanji out of the m3 but I appreciate the tag.

Imagine not liking Luffy.

No Tag ?

Sorry, too much in my mind right now.

Sanji doesn't have fight against yonko

Does that matters? And Sanji blocked Big Mom's attack in WCI already.

monster trio did not mean they are equal in power it means they are the 3 strongest in the crew with Luffy being the strongest and Sanji being the 3rd strongest

Yeah that's what I'm trying to say.

Hard to take you seriously when you use nothing but fanslations and hearsay from decade-old interviews to back up your point, Goat…the words “Monster Trio” have never been used by any character in the official Japanese OR American releases, it is exclusively a fan made term and nothing more.

The terms "Monster Trio" is in the Japanese raw scans. The "Three Monsters" part is also a official translations but just like with the "Animal Kingdom Pirates" and "Beast Pirates" for Kaido's crew, people prefer the latter hence why people picked Monster Trio over Three Monsters.

It will never stop making me laugh the willful blindness people have about that Onigashima doublespread where they try and delude themselves that Luffy and Jinbei aren’t blatantly the two central figures there.

Yes, the M3 will always be a thing, it will always be Luffy > Zoro > Sanji> others, but it’s also true that for nine long years and counting we have not had a single M3 panel. And a lot of that is on Oda dropping the ball badly with Sanji, while not doing so with Luffy or Zoro. He spent years making Sanji a hype tool for other characters without giving him any real moments to shine in return (fighting wise).

Just look at the examples you had to bring up, there’s absolutely nothing after Fishman Island. Which, Strawhat separation aside, still includes PH, the first third of Dressrosa and Wano. We’ve seen Luffy and Zoro, Zoro and Sanji, Luffy and Sanji, but still no Luffy, Zoro and Sanji scenes other than the cover of Volume 100.

It’s good to see Sanji about to get a real win finally, but the past couple of arcs before now were bad for him, and we are still waiting on a Luffy/Zoro/Sanji scene, big or small

That's why I'm hoping for a Monster Trio vs Kaido panel. So that it would ends the debate once and for all.

Lol your response is "well, I said so." Oda puts them in comparable situations and Jinbe comes out on top. Tekkai fractures Sanji's leg? Jinbe breaks Tekkai bones. Sanji raped by a warlord? Jinbe is a warlord. Sanji blocks Judge's spear? Jinbe blocks Napoleon. Jinbe fights Tobi Roppo while subordinates hit him? Sanji is clapped by Blacktooth and can't fight Tobi Roppo.

I was being generous by calling them equal tbh

1. Sanji's body already got injured.
2. Not all Warlords are equals.
3. Jinbei blocked Napoleon and got send flying by nerfed Big Mom while Sanji blocked healthy Big Mom's attack.
4. Off-guard and Sanji can't fight women. He already clapped Blacktooth and is fighting Queen in Base Form right now.

So practically you and sanji fans want to live on zoro's shadow. whatever he does, it's good for you even if sanji does nothing right ?
It seems that pride is something you can't obtain easily ...

? No one wants Sanji to be in Zoro's or Luffy's shadow. Sanji is his own character. Whatever Sanji does credits to himself only.

Have zero issues with the M3 i believe Sanji will always be third strongest and most important crew member just don't push the agenda he is Zoro equal :cheers:

Nah, I'm not saying Zoro = Sanji. Just saying Luffy first, Zoro second and Sanji third. ^^

Oda was portraying Jinbei in a better light than Sanji, so it made sense to have Jinbei above.. By portrayal alone Sanji being one of the wings of Luffy, he's more important than Jinbei.. Until Sanji show better feats than Jinbei, i still have Jinbei stronger.. Also Jinbei is a Monster on the crew that's undeniable.. So its either the Monster Quartet or there will be a new dynamic, Jinbei is a Monster without question..

While Jinbei and Yamato might look better than Sanji, it's all comes down on whom opponents they will defeat. If Sanji beats Queen while Jinbei only beats WsW, Sanji > Jinbei. If Yamato fights Smoothie or someone below that, Sanji > Yamato as well.

the problem is not people denied monster trio
the problem is oda destroying sanji and at the same time elevated zoro too much
WCI arc n now wano sanji is "looking for Prostitutes" n beaten by black maria
meanwhile zoro Scar Kaido go to rooftop n doing some Badass moment!!!
so of course Fans Ridicule Sanji n Worship Zoro
it,s all oda fault
n now oda want to fix it with "Pirate king wings" or whatever translate vis or some youtuber speww but The Damage Has Been Done

Sure the damage might be too big but I still have hope. ^^

 

[Jew D. Boy]

LISTEN UP, ASSHOLES - I WAS WRONG ABOUT THE USAGE OF MONSTER TRIO IN MY FIRST COMMENT, IT WAS ALREADY BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AND Y’ALL DO *NOT* NEED TO QUOTE ME ANY-FUCKIN’-MORE, AIGHT??

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

LISTEN UP, ASSHOLES - I WAS WRONG ABOUT THE USAGE OF MONSTER TRIO IN MY FIRST COMMENT, IT WAS ALREADY BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AND Y’ALL DO *NOT* NEED TO QUOTE ME ANY-FUCKIN’-MORE, AIGHT??

Btw, when is Jewnicorn Fitness open again?

 

[Rootbeer]

While Jinbei and Yamato might look better than Sanji, it's all comes down on whom opponents they will defeat. If Sanji beats Queen while Jinbei only beats WsW, Sanji > Jinbei. If Yamato fights Smoothie or someone below that, Sanji > Yamato as well.

Ok but for now Jinbei is still above Sanji.. And Jinbei is a monster like Luffy, Zoro and Sanji..

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Ok but for now Jinbei is still above Sanji.. And Jinbei is a monster like Luffy, Zoro and Sanji..

Current Sanji mid diffs Jinbe

 

[Rootbeer]

Current Sanji mid diffs Jinbe

No, Sanji loses for now