Is Sanji's Power Up Legitimate?


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By what "logic"? You think Oda would try to actively dehype haki specialist Luffy, at his own speciality of haki immediately before one of the main turning points of his development to yonko status?
Seriously you either have reading comprehension and narrative understanding issues, or your fanboyism is blinding you. There were no telltale signs of adv CoC in the drawing of the scene and Kaido's subsequent reaction completely nullifies the possibility of it being adv CoC.
So Zoro made a permanent scar without even using COC but Kaido an experienced fighter who said the same thing about kidd, luffy and yamato, is wrong ? so Zoro is truly something else, imagine what he can do with adv.coc too :crazwhat::crazwhat:
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Kat could moreso use evasion even against a large AoE move like KKG than someone like Cracker who relies on defensive tactics more.
If KKG connected when he was in his first match against Boundman in a state where he couldn't use FS properly then it would fuck him up severely, but KKGs lead time and potency would have probably shook him out of his bizarre mental state before it connected.
I'm talking about a version of Boundman using Future Sight. Not without FS. Katakuri ain't dodging that just like how he could barely dodge half of Luffy's hits once Luffy started using FS.

I'm merely saying that just because Zoro has a potent attack he doesn't get a *chance to use because it isn't best for the scenario*, doesn't mean that he didn't go nearly all out. Luffy's fight with Kat was extreme diff and he went all out even though he didn't use KKG.
There's a subtle difference.

Luffy had to go beyond his limits gain a new powerup and form, and use the Strongest Attack in that form to defeat Katakuri. Don't think that's gonna happen with Zoro here.
 
As sad as it is to admit, judging by Oda’s formula….Sanji vs Queen is ending next chap. Due to 2 reasons.

- Triumphant Chaps
- PUs

SH fights usually have a triumphant chap, a chap where the SH looks good/impressive at the end before their opponents get defeated the next chap. Using Sanji alone…

Sanji vs Mr 2:


Sanji vs Jabra

Sanji vs Absaldom


This sword break moment can be that “moment” for Sanji. Then next chap he beats Queen up.


Also now we know that Sanji just unlocked his PU. And usually with PUs, the villains are usually defeated in the chapter it unlocked or shown. Sanji will be fully using it next chap. So yh Queen gon be fucked next chap. I hope not tho.
I think he is treating this as a war and intermingling the moments, Zoro will have a similar upper hand moment, not to mention Luffy, and then he needs to finish Raizo/ Killer and Drake's fights with small amounts of panels before finishing the monster trio's fights.
 
bro whatever happens haters will failed to understand or accept.. you can't change that..

if Queen goes down extreme diff to sanji.. they 'd still down play the heck out of sanji.
even now there are people who say that Queen is Yc4 and that sanji is under YC3

but i get your point as well.. hopefully its nit what i think it is.. but Queen actually give sanjia tough match even after the PU coz we have never seen him go all out
No, I don’t care
I want to see a long ass fight for Sanji…

I want Sanji by the end to even fall unconscious and all bloodied

You guys really care about unimportant stuff when we finally are getting the equevelant fights for Jyabura/Kaku/Lucci…

we finally are having 3 enemies for Sanji/Zoro/Luffy where they can go beyond… I don’t want Queen to be another Who’s who…

Jinbe vs Who’s who was so awesome yet ended soooooo fast, it’s disgusting how easy it looked!
 

Doggo

Welcome to the House of Hope
I don't mind those matchups but Mihawk isn't a part of Shanks crew.
Shanks's RHM is Beckman and Luffy's RHM is Zoro.


"a crew better than yours!"
I agree.
But there's a thing. Time.
If Shanks gets his dedicated arc, then it's Zoro vs Beckmann. But then what? There's this "big war" being prepared by Oda, but I think it's REALLY weird a Zoro vs Mihawk duel happening in the middle of any kind of conflict. With Mihawk being back to flying solo, I find it fitting for him to appear in the same arc as Shanks, due to their friendship and all. the SSG apparently developed a power strong enough to replace the Shichibukais, which includes Mihawk. If they fail, then it kinda adds up to nothing, you know?
If the SSG is supposed to ACTUALLY be a threat, than Mihawk being solo should not be a possibility for him. Despite liking Posthawk, it only fits narratively that he isn't able to stay solo.
By going this route, and Mihawk coming into play during Shanks' arc, than it's a whole new dynamic for the arc.

But honestly, I don't think Oda would do this. :P
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
To me the idea that both these fights will end in the next 2-3 chapters seems really sad. I’m hoping each fight has 2-3 more chapters each.
Don't think so. These fights getting 3 chapters is already over the usual limit. No Sanji and Zoro fight went past two chapters in any previous arc. 3 here is fine considering the scale of the opposition.
 
No, I don’t care
I want to see a long ass fight for Sanji…

I want Sanji by the end to even fall unconscious and all bloodied

You guys really care about unimportant stuff when we finally are getting the equevelant fights for Jyabura/Kaku/Lucci…

we finally are having 3 enemies for Sanji/Zoro/Luffy where they can go beyond… I don’t want Queen to be another Who’s who…

Jinbe vs Who’s who was so awesome yet ended soooooo fast, it’s disgusting how easy it looked!
yea ofc Jabura cs sanji was dope.. i believe Queen vs Sanji if nit in seconds ofc not coz that was an exaggeration.. would end ina similar manner
 
SANJI speed > zoro

Sanji durability > zoro

sanji endurance > zoro (from saving momo to withstand king’s attack to beat numerous gifters to beat beat black maria’s male slave to endure black maria’s attack without haki to bandage zoro up to carry dead weight like zoro while fighting to fighting 1.32 billion while enduring his strange feeling body without SENZU BEANS)

sanji stamina > zoro

we just need to wait for sanji actual AP when his fight against queen reaching its climax

:cheers::cheers::cheers:
 
Man I hope we deal with the damn Killer/Apoo/Raizou fights in the next 1 or 2 chapters. I don't want to live in constant fear thinknig that the next chapter might be about those fights
 
Listen bro
Sanji was always winning his fight before and easily then zoro... Take an example as Enies lobby.. sanji got rid of his opponent fast and more easily and was giving more damage and was faster overall then his opponent.. where zoro had more trouble winning that fight...
though people gonna say shit
Sanji wins hard diff - lol sanji had a hard diff with that weak guy
Sanji wins mid diff - lol sanji just got a weak guy.. look how zoro had so much trouble winning from king.. it was a katakuri type fight blablabla
so just enjoy n ignore
You fail to see my point… or you came at the discussion late cause this is not the point of discussion…
I only object to the idea for it to be “waaaaay easier”
That’s total garbage

but a little easier like Jyabura.. sure, I love it
 
No, I don’t care
I want to see a long ass fight for Sanji…

I want Sanji by the end to even fall unconscious and all bloodied

You guys really care about unimportant stuff when we finally are getting the equevelant fights for Jyabura/Kaku/Lucci…

we finally are having 3 enemies for Sanji/Zoro/Luffy where they can go beyond… I don’t want Queen to be another Who’s who…

Jinbe vs Who’s who was so awesome yet ended soooooo fast, it’s disgusting how easy it looked!
it didn't just look easy it was easy for jimbei
who's who was not a proper enemy for him oda just decided to sideline jimbei this time so sanji can shine

jimbei would beat the shit out of queen too
 
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