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I understand the concept of Attack Potency, you fail to grasp it though.
Shall I explain it to you? King's feat is a pure AP feat for matching Zoro's attack and thus his AP is automatically >= Zoro's nameless hakified slashes.
He's punching with the weight of a city sized arm made of bricks... He's creating good amount of force even without haki.
There is a huge difference if you cut/destroy a small hill or an actual mountain, you know?
Guess what? It's not just always about pure destruction.
King doesn't have to randomly destroy a town to match Zoro's AP, not to mention that he already destroyed a mountain just by launching Zoro there. Said mountain is a few hundreds of meters.
Dude, he legit bisected an actual mountain sized golem comparable to Flower Hill in height...
Shall I explain it to you? King's feat is a pure AP feat for matching Zoro's attack and thus his AP is automatically >= Zoro's nameless hakified slashes.
He's punching with the weight of a city sized arm made of bricks... He's creating good amount of force even without haki.
There is a huge difference if you cut/destroy a small hill or an actual mountain, you know?
Guess what? It's not just always about pure destruction.
King doesn't have to randomly destroy a town to match Zoro's AP, not to mention that he already destroyed a mountain just by launching Zoro there. Said mountain is a few hundreds of meters.
Dude, he legit bisected an actual mountain sized golem comparable to Flower Hill in height...
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Yeah df wise Queen should be more durable than King, there's def something else that enhances King's dura of his ancient zoan.
Would like if it's because of his fire and him using it similar to how Kinemon did on Okiku except he adapts to it because he's an ancient zoan or some shit.
Looking forward what Shiryu's hax gonna be with the invisibility, awakening and his killing intent
Would like if it's because of his fire and him using it similar to how Kinemon did on Okiku except he adapts to it because he's an ancient zoan or some shit.
Looking forward what Shiryu's hax gonna be with the invisibility, awakening and his killing intent
1. WB was ailing and could easily be hurt, Marco could regen.
2. Big Mom is careless and prone to short attention span, Katakuri's FS makes him the most careful and attentive fighter in her crew.
3. Kaido had the toughest skin in the series (before 1032) that can only be harmed by specific means, but he cannot stop people from exploiting his weakness once they found out about it. King seems to be able to adapt to damages and can stop people from exploiting his weakness.
Basically, I'm sure Shiryu's hax will be related to whatever stat BB is specifically lacking. From his fight with Ace and WB, we know that BB is overconfident and careless while also deciding to tank come what may.
This means, while BB obviously does not lack AP and HP, he does lack on speed and counters.
Shiryu could blitz the prison guards, so he does not lack speed. That leaves counter.
We know now he ate the Suke Suke no mi and, IIRC, in Japanese it means "sheer" or "see-through".
Absalom was lazy, so he could only make things go invisible with it. But, what if, his DF is taken to its logical extreme and does not effect only the sense of sight of his enemy, but all 5 senses? With him (and all his attacks) being completely undetected even by the most advanced FS on top of being able to relieve anyone of all their senses if they happen to notice him by any means.
So, imagine fighting Shiryu is like fighting a Nonexistent being.
BB is boisterous and can level areas with ease. Shiryu being literally the subtlest fighter in the crew who prefers vital hits with the least amount of destruction could be his niche to balance BB.
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That's quite a mix, never seen one like that. 
Exactly, Kiri-chan. There is no area where we can say that King is lacking. Kind of like Zoro but with far better air mobility.
I see... I guess you dont know that I am one of very few Zoro vs King supporters among Zoro fans and that I have said their fight would be high diff? True, they were crying and learned a valuable lesson about self-sabotage. Luckily we had @Chrono to hype King up for us.
Yes, that's a lesson for people who cant power scale. If Oda decides to make a certain fight happen as a major battle of the arc, it is unlikely to be less than high diff.
You either forgot about this or you are just happy someone is finally giving Zoro trouble, fair and square? 
lol, Steven-chan... You do know all 3 are on the same side?
Has yet to be seen. Nothing so far in the fight vs King has made him stronger.
Or do you think getting rammed into walls is making him stronger?
How comes considering he is all that Kaido is but better, tougher, more aggressive, faster, more lethal and so on?
He can make him bleed and already did with Oni Giri. Zoro was referring to passive air slashes from Tatsumaki.
Among all Marines, Smoker is my favorite.
I do think Fujitora and Kizaru are incredible powerhouses but overall not too much of a fan of top tiers, with a couple of exceptions...
Exactly, Kiri-chan. There is no area where we can say that King is lacking. Kind of like Zoro but with far better air mobility.
I see... I guess you dont know that I am one of very few Zoro vs King supporters among Zoro fans and that I have said their fight would be high diff? True, they were crying and learned a valuable lesson about self-sabotage. Luckily we had @Chrono to hype King up for us.
Yes, that's a lesson for people who cant power scale. If Oda decides to make a certain fight happen as a major battle of the arc, it is unlikely to be less than high diff.
lol, Steven-chan... You do know all 3 are on the same side?
Has yet to be seen. Nothing so far in the fight vs King has made him stronger.
Or do you think getting rammed into walls is making him stronger?
How comes considering he is all that Kaido is but better, tougher, more aggressive, faster, more lethal and so on?
He can make him bleed and already did with Oni Giri. Zoro was referring to passive air slashes from Tatsumaki.
Among all Marines, Smoker is my favorite.
I do think Fujitora and Kizaru are incredible powerhouses but overall not too much of a fan of top tiers, with a couple of exceptions...
"Kaido, you could have mentioned earlier that you had such a fierce tiger laying dormant below the Rooftop!"
The moment when the sleeping tiger awakens!
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King is finally living up to his YC1 reputation. Having durability greater than Kaido was a surprise but to be expected of the special repertoire of YC1 class.
I find it hard to believe King is getting taken down in the span of less than 5 minutes when he basically looks like he's got a lot of energy left. If Zoro exploits his weakness or whatever then it must be a really bad weakness.
Otherwise I dont expect King to go down at all completely by Wano end. If Zoro does KO him then it should be temporary and he should get back up like Marco.
I find it hard to believe King is getting taken down in the span of less than 5 minutes when he basically looks like he's got a lot of energy left. If Zoro exploits his weakness or whatever then it must be a really bad weakness.
Otherwise I dont expect King to go down at all completely by Wano end. If Zoro does KO him then it should be temporary and he should get back up like Marco.
"Kaido, you could have mentioned earlier that you had such a fierce tiger laying dormant below the Rooftop!"
The moment when the sleeping tiger awakens!
@Blackbeard @Blother @Fleet Admiral Lee Hung @TheKnightOfTheSea @RayanOO
@sanjikun is right. King is Pica, to Doffy's Mr. 3.
Even if all of Baroque Works combine together, they will still don't have required DC to deal against Pica's golem.
Just like even if all of Donquxiote Family combine together, they will still don't have required AP to deal against King's wings.
@Tyki_Mikk Seems we have greatly underestimated King once again, luckily sanjikun came to correct us.
King is not Mr. 1 nor Rob Lucci to Doffy's Mr. 3, he is actually Lord Pica himself.
Even if all of Baroque Works combine together, they will still don't have required DC to deal against Pica's golem.
Just like even if all of Donquxiote Family combine together, they will still don't have required AP to deal against King's wings.
@Tyki_Mikk Seems we have greatly underestimated King once again, luckily sanjikun came to correct us.
King is not Mr. 1 nor Rob Lucci to Doffy's Mr. 3, he is actually Lord Pica himself.
Tbf Kizaru was used to hype up Marco. Big Mom was used to hype up Katakuri.
This is just a RHM thing, they're built different. Oda keeps proving it time and time again how much he cares for them, I mean to this day the only fight Oda drew where it's questionable if an opponent let Luffy win was Katakuri, as high as Oda is on Luffy he couldn't give Luffy an overwhelming KO victory despite all the plot armour. That's how much respect he has for these guys.
This is just a RHM thing, they're built different. Oda keeps proving it time and time again how much he cares for them, I mean to this day the only fight Oda drew where it's questionable if an opponent let Luffy win was Katakuri, as high as Oda is on Luffy he couldn't give Luffy an overwhelming KO victory despite all the plot armour. That's how much respect he has for these guys.
I disagree with you and I tell you why.
I would not compare these case are same. Marco did not do anything to injure kizaru, but instead got trolled by kizaru. Marco got damage from behind when kizaru use laser finger. So Marco have no damage against kizaru. This is same kizaru who dodge whitebeard attack without looking at him.
Big mom was portray superior to Katakuri and Katakuri obey her like child to obey his mom. Katakuri does protect his mom from her weak point being exposed but failed. That is in wci arc. Katakuri hype because of future sight thing. Future sight require calm mind and powerful coO. Kuzan and kizaru seem have future sight like Katakuri which it solve mystery how kuzan and kizaru dodge without getting damage or complain. Akainu case is differen but we will discover in future. Akainu is too hothead to use future sight. Other top tier may have future sight like shanks and Ben guy.
I don’t want to comment on big mom hype. Too many thing to list her failure.
About king vs zoro. Remeber rooftop 5 and two yonko were freaking out by zoro and his swords like emma.
Zoro comment that he can’t make king bleed with his attacks. Meanwhile zoro attack made kadio bleed.
Only thing kadio have over king is supposed his strength and high HP.
King have better duality feat compare to kadio.
It will get powercreep really ugly after wano arc is over.
I would not compare these case are same. Marco did not do anything to injure kizaru, but instead got trolled by kizaru. Marco got damage from behind when kizaru use laser finger. So Marco have no damage against kizaru. This is same kizaru who dodge whitebeard attack without looking at him.
Big mom was portray superior to Katakuri and Katakuri obey her like child to obey his mom. Katakuri does protect his mom from her weak point being exposed but failed. That is in wci arc. Katakuri hype because of future sight thing. Future sight require calm mind and powerful coO. Kuzan and kizaru seem have future sight like Katakuri which it solve mystery how kuzan and kizaru dodge without getting damage or complain. Akainu case is differen but we will discover in future. Akainu is too hothead to use future sight. Other top tier may have future sight like shanks and Ben guy.
I don’t want to comment on big mom hype. Too many thing to list her failure.
About king vs zoro. Remeber rooftop 5 and two yonko were freaking out by zoro and his swords like emma.
Zoro comment that he can’t make king bleed with his attacks. Meanwhile zoro attack made kadio bleed.
Only thing kadio have over king is supposed his strength and high HP.
King have better duality feat compare to kadio.
It will get powercreep really ugly after wano arc is over.
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"Kaido, you could have mentioned earlier that you had such a fierce tiger laying dormant below the Rooftop!"
The moment when the sleeping tiger awakens!
@Blackbeard @Blother @Fleet Admiral Lee Hung @TheKnightOfTheSea @RayanOO
