What has awakened that the Gorosei are talking about?


  • Total voters
    453
  • Poll closed .
Status
Not open for further replies.
I'm a pretty avid fan of LoTR. And know what the Valar and Maia are. I post here by phone you know the deal.

And yes he did. He was at the Battle of helms deep. Are you saying Legolas and Gimli are not main characters? Frodo is not the only PoV in LoTR my guy.

And this is not the goddamn point. The point is, Gandalf was not the only fakeout death in LoTR. Faramir is too. Frodo "dies" like 3 times.

There are essentially zero major casualties in the actual fellowship outside of Boromir. Every person you mention save of Boromir and Theoden are essentially antagonists. Really? Gollum? Saruman? Grima? NOBODY else major in 3 books/3 films/whatever actually dies and has consequences. The fodder in the story take 99% of the damage.

Again. You are reading OP for the wrong reasons.
Gandalf's "return" in Helm's Deep was set up from the very beginning. He even tells them that he will return with the first sunlight on the fifth day. Him bringing back the Rohirim was also clearly foreshadowed. It was all set up.

Faramir never had a "fake death", because the reader always knew he was alive. Only Denethor was so crazy that he wanted to burn him alive.

That's completely different from Oda coming up with fake-tension and fake-death moments again and again.

And yes, from the "main protagonists" only Boromir dies in the LotR, but that was never the point.

Tolkin is at least consequent when he writes death scenes - with antagonists and secondary characters, too. He also killed Thorin and several other dwarves in the Hobbit and the vast majority of main protagonists in the Silmarillion btw.

With Frodo its the same. He writes scenes where its very critical, but never "fake death scenes". He always immediately clears up the actual status.
 
Big Mom cannot control current better than an entire Fishman race of people.

Put into perspective, this is the same hag that got thrown out of Onigashima by Jinbe and Robin unsuspectedly.

Suspend your disbelief for 5 seconds.
And we're turning in a circle and describe piss poor writing as an "explanation"/"excuse" once again.
 
No and No.
1 Yonko > 1 Admiral always
2 or 3 admirals > 1 yonko

If marines could take out yonko crew that easily, they can also wipe out any SN or fodder pirates entering the grand line. Then there would not have been any need for the system you are mentioning.
Except why wouldn't you let others do the dirty work for you right ?
 
I don't understand what people expected? The ocean is Fishman territory. They can literally just swim under. There was 0 chance BM was going to do anything to them.

The Germa army is a Yonko-level army save for a BM and Katakuri, and they showed it by fighting BMPs until the morning hours. In addition to that, they have all sorts of tech to make an escape possible.
Fodder fishman shouldn’t be able to outswim the attacks of BM/Smoothie/Daifuku/Oven/Perospero.
How tf is Germa a Yonko level army “save for BM and Katakuri”? Smoothie beats Reiju mid diff at worst. Cracker beats Ichiji high diff at worst. Snack ~ Judge. Perospero >= Niji. Compote, Daifuku, or Oven should be able to beat Yonji. Germa doesn’t even dozens of low tiers, like BM does. Just just a few thousand fodders after the Vinsmokes
 
Germa took casualties on the army side. We see BMPS killed some of the soldiers.

But yeah, if Big Mom was there chasing them from the start it would have been a different story. They were already on the outskirts of Tottoland and only stayed back to save Luffy & co. All they had to do is just get the hell out of there.
So there is a magical border and the entire army + BM herself and the commanders just said: "Oh, no, they are 5 yards outside of our territory. Dang, let's just leave them and turn back!"
Great and very believable writing!
 
Big Mom cannot control current better than an entire Fishman race of people.

Put into perspective, this is the same hag that got thrown out of Onigashima by Jinbe and Robin unsuspectedly.

Suspend your disbelief for 5 seconds.
Oh my god....why are you trying so fucking hard to defend this garbage writing? BM literaly had her FLYING Homie with her. Doesn't fucking matter what the fihsman can do and Oven was there aswell, who alone was able to make the fishman useless. BM has literaly 100000 million different options to sink or catch a swimming castle...
Her Elbaf spear has an insane range, you are telling me she couldn't use that to destroy a swimming castle??
And it doesn't matter if ''iT wAs AlWaYs LiKe ThIs'' - that doesn't mean we can't criticize that. It's BS writing.
 
And we're turning in a circle and describe piss poor writing as an "explanation"/"excuse" once again.
No. You just wank the Yonko way too much. That's always been your issue. Big Mom is not a god. She's a strong individual but not some deity. She has weaknesses like every person.

You have a high tech army that can fly, and a group of fishmen that can control the seas. They can make it out of there.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top