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no, if anything it will be regression instead of progression

ex: G4 boundman lasted around 25-30 minutes in dressrosa, nearly 20 minutes against cracker, < 20 against Katakuri, 10 minutes or even less against Kaidou

Now G4 Snakeman was around 35-40 minutes against Katakuri, need to see how much time it last against Kaidou. We know for sure that it is not going to last even for 20 minutes.

So no, if anything

G4 in old arcs >> G4 in wano.
that makes no sense at all luffy trained in udon and before the raid and he has advcoc now but whatever helps you cope
 
First of all, Izo is a beast.He took on 2 CP-0 members while in a horrible state and took one of them down.The art was also very impressive, with them landing their hits at the same time.I definitely didn't see that coming.It's also time for Drake to return Luffy's favour and finally get a W in the arc.

Secondly, the Gorosei ordering the CP-0 to help Kaido take Luffy down just shows how much of a threat he's turned out to be.I don't know why they would change the decision mid-arc tho.What happened? Not that the CP-0 would amount to much if he made it to the rooftop.

Franky saving Zoro was to be expected, and I have no problem with it.I still don't see how ZKK happens.The only way I could think of is after Luffy beats him and Kaido tries some half-assed comeback?

As far as Law and Kid are concerned, is Kid just acting tough or was he actually considering helping Luffy with Kaido? I know Law
completely out of it, but it seems that Kid only needed a word or two from Law to try and go for it again.His endurance is just insane.

Luffy going snakeman, right after Kaido starts crying again, must be one of the best Luffy panels ever.He looks so menacing and fast.Kaido not understanding where the punches come from highlights just how fast Snakeman is.Luffy doesn't even look that hurt at this point, so I am pretty certain that he won't suffer another defeat.Maybe he gets knocked out for seconds but he will bounce back immediately.

Overall, great chapter and it seemed very long for One Piece standards covering many characters plus no break next week, let's go!!!
 
no, if anything it will be regression instead of progression

ex: G4 boundman lasted around 25-30 minutes in dressrosa, nearly 20 minutes against cracker, < 20 against Katakuri, 10 minutes or even less against Kaidou

Now G4 Snakeman was around 35-40 minutes against Katakuri, need to see how much time it last against Kaidou. We know for sure that it is not going to last even for 20 minutes.

So no, if anything

G4 in old arcs >> G4 in wano.
isn't Luffy outputting AdCoC though? The Haki output is way more severe here and he has to use it to transform
 
Gonna hold off on making a post about Luffy/Gorosei/Shanks until we get hard confirmation that it's all about Luffy's fruit, but if it is....oh boy.

Know that this means things are far more complicated than Luffy's awakening if that's the case.
Shanks deliberately planted the seed of Gomu2 in Luffy in order for him to grow into a fearsome figure? With the most dangerous fruit that even Gorosei fear? Feigning ignorance but actually set it up so that the best poster boy of pure childishness and adventurous spirit will eat that most dangerous weapon? Actually i dislike it if even Luffy's fruit is a chosen one super powerful fruit...but if it's Shanks' scenario all along, stealing the Gomu in order to pit the future, final PK against the WG? Mastermind Shanks alert.
 
no, if anything it will be regression instead of progression

ex: G4 boundman lasted around 25-30 minutes in dressrosa, nearly 20 minutes against cracker, < 20 against Katakuri, 10 minutes or even less against Kaidou

Now G4 Snakeman was around 35-40 minutes against Katakuri, need to see how much time it last against Kaidou. We know for sure that it is not going to last even for 20 minutes.

So no, if anything

G4 in old arcs >> G4 in wano.
(Plot based) Duration isn't potency.
Pretending that a Luffy that is matching Hybrid Kaido in base in terms of raw speed and strength will have a less potent G4 than dressrosa Luffy is dumb.
 
Shanks deliberately planted the seed of Gomu2 in Luffy in order for him to grow into a fearsome figure? With the most dangerous fruit that even Gorosei fear? Feigning ignorance but actually set it up so that the best poster boy of pure childishness and adventurous spirit will eat that most dangerous weapon? Actually i dislike it if even Luffy's fruit is a chosen one super powerful fruit...but if it's Shanks' scenario all along, stealing the Gomu in order to pit the future, final PK against the WG? Mastermind Shanks alert.
Yup, and the scary part is we don't know why. If it was a total, good intention, he didn't have to tell the WG anything. Eventually Luffy would find OP and stop them.

But if he told them, then he fully intends for there to be a collision course with the WG making the first move.


I entirely believe Shanks is playing as a 3rd party
 
and you ? what do you think about it ?
Clearly above Drake and Apoo, im not even sure if Drake and Apoo could take it in a 2vs1.
First yeah Izo plan to take one CP0, but to be fair it was overall 2vs1 and a hella nerfed Izo, he didn´t had any other choice.
Even then hella nerfed Izo beat one and injuried the another one sitting down, that is actually a insane feat.
Maha alone stomp one Number and let Apoo and the another run away, Drake was defeated too.
Izo did it in his very poor state better then Apoo+Drake+Two numbers together.
Based on portrayal I have no doubt that Izo would beat Drake or Apoo or even both at the sametime seeing how Oda portrayal him in the recent chapter.

A pirate with 510mio, kinda make sense why the Navy hype his power pretty much.
Imagine a Vet of Whitebeard doing this, how strong are Marco,Vista and Jozu?
Commander strenght overall is just different, showing how impressive Sanji and Zoro feats are for beating two commanders of Kaido.
 
that makes no sense at all luffy trained in udon and before the raid and he has advcoc now but whatever helps you cope
'That makes no sense' is what makes no sense. You can't tell me with a straight face that G4 timelimit extended more than what was shown in dressrosa. He used one punch and gattling against Kaidou and boom haki gone. Luffy trained to become dumb. Can switch OFF and ON in G4 but completely wasted his haki against Kaidou like a retard. Have advanced tools but can't optimize them. Luffy was not retard when it comes to fighting but that feature is also gone now. He mindlessly exhaust his haki again.
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The Haki output is way more severe here
How it is more severe? we are talking about quantity not quality.
 
'That makes no sense' is what makes no sense. You can't tell me with a straight face that G4 timelimit extended more than what was shown in dressrosa. He used one punch and gattling against Kaidou and boom haki gone. Luffy trained to become dumb. Can switch OFF and ON in G4 but completely wasted his haki against Kaidou like a retard. Have advanced tools but can't optimize them. Luffy was not retard when it comes to fighting but that feature is also gone now. He mindlessly exhaust his haki again.
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How it is more severe? we are talking about quantity not quality.
Because outputting Conquerors takes more put of you. That was the whole point of Luffy being completely done in 1013. He used it too much and wasted it.
 

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'That makes no sense' is what makes no sense. You can't tell me with a straight face that G4 timelimit extended more than what was shown in dressrosa. He used one punch and gattling against Kaidou and boom haki gone. Luffy trained to become dumb. Can switch OFF and ON in G4 but completely wasted his haki against Kaidou like a retard. Have advanced tools but can't optimize them. Luffy was not retard when it comes to fighting but that feature is also gone now. He mindlessly exhaust his haki again.
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How it is more severe? we are talking about quantity not quality.
that's a lot of headcanon just because he can switch g4 on and off now doesn't mean he exhausted it
 
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