One Piece Chapter 1047: The Sky Above the Capital
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that's not my solution
i already said i don't think it's gonna happen
i'm saying why i understand where Morj is coming from
but the fact that people think the fights are not satisfying and they haven't been paid off for reading 140 chapters and just want to move on is not a good thing...
why would anyone think Oda would change for the final war then? the same thing is going to happen if this just keeps going
i already said i don't think it's gonna happen
i'm saying why i understand where Morj is coming from
but the fact that people think the fights are not satisfying and they haven't been paid off for reading 140 chapters and just want to move on is not a good thing...
why would anyone think Oda would change for the final war then? the same thing is going to happen if this just keeps going
But then he can say those elements are missing and be disappointed like reasonable people should lol. This is exactly the issue I have with ZKK or claims that Kaido will fight a combined alliance at this point. People clearly want "more", because they are disappointed by what they have gotten already. Let's say Kaido is defeated from this punch, I guarantee you people like Morj (raid failers), ZKK fans, and Kaido team up fans will all freak out, call Oda a hack, and say that the writing is so poor because it does not meet their expectations.
I have my own qualms about One Piece, however I've accepted its just different these days. I do not expect the story to exactly get darker than what is set on. I take things at face value and accept what has been given to me. Big example is the shit people like to rag on me for, being the flying 6. I thought there was "more" to their fights because of the way Oda cut away from their scenes. It turns out there wasn't, but you can go back and see that
1. I accepted the alternative (that they were defeated) as a possibility long before they were shown defeated
2. Never really complained about them being defeated outside of just wanting to see more of Jinbe/Franky fighting or Usopp not getting shafted. I never actually hated on the mangaka for his creative decision to not focus on it.
Other things like the BMP not showing up or Jack getting defeated quickly fit into this category. I accepted what was seemingly hyped before and moved on from it.
But I disagree about intensity and difficulty. It feels way harder than past arcs imo. This has been the most fighting Oda has drawn in a span of chapters ever. He has delivered what I expected from a Yonko fight and their crew, even though I ironically expected more out of the F6, Jack or BMs crew. But that's just me lol.
Morj imo does not do this. He chalks up that whatever hes not right on, its automatically a bad decision made by Oda. I dont say these things, im just disappointed and move on. Its not my manga. The author does not owe me anything.
I believe I addressed my own personal opinions about this in my above response to you, have a read.
I have my own qualms about One Piece, however I've accepted its just different these days. I do not expect the story to exactly get darker than what is set on. I take things at face value and accept what has been given to me. Big example is the shit people like to rag on me for, being the flying 6. I thought there was "more" to their fights because of the way Oda cut away from their scenes. It turns out there wasn't, but you can go back and see that
1. I accepted the alternative (that they were defeated) as a possibility long before they were shown defeated
2. Never really complained about them being defeated outside of just wanting to see more of Jinbe/Franky fighting or Usopp not getting shafted. I never actually hated on the mangaka for his creative decision to not focus on it.
Other things like the BMP not showing up or Jack getting defeated quickly fit into this category. I accepted what was seemingly hyped before and moved on from it.
But I disagree about intensity and difficulty. It feels way harder than past arcs imo. This has been the most fighting Oda has drawn in a span of chapters ever. He has delivered what I expected from a Yonko fight and their crew, even though I ironically expected more out of the F6, Jack or BMs crew. But that's just me lol.
Morj imo does not do this. He chalks up that whatever hes not right on, its automatically a bad decision made by Oda. I dont say these things, im just disappointed and move on. Its not my manga. The author does not owe me anything.
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I believe I addressed my own personal opinions about this in my above response to you, have a read.
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I don't know. We're talking about a Youtuber and a Discussion Forum for One Piece.
Both Morj and the people that use this forum wants to talk about One Piece. They wanna talk about how they felt and what they think could happen in the story going forward.
It's just a weird logic to me to say to a person that makes money reviewing the series to "just shut up and accept what Oda is doing", it's his job (a position given by his audience) to talk about and criticize the story.
Morj is not a casual reader, he is someone that is working and making money from talking about the series and pointing things out.
Both Morj and the people that use this forum wants to talk about One Piece. They wanna talk about how they felt and what they think could happen in the story going forward.
It's just a weird logic to me to say to a person that makes money reviewing the series to "just shut up and accept what Oda is doing", it's his job (a position given by his audience) to talk about and criticize the story.
Morj is not a casual reader, he is someone that is working and making money from talking about the series and pointing things out.
I mean, I think Morj is probably the best OP youtuber and I think his analysis videos are fantastic. So I wouldn't say mean.
But the issue is that he presents evidence for the raid failing but doesn't really look at that evidence critically. It's like he is mounting a case to win an argument rather than seeking truth. As new information comes in and evidence mounts against the raid failing (Strawhats winning all of their battles, major plot threads being closed, Luffy losing twice and unlocking Gear 5th, the length of the raid itself) he doesn't amend his theory or contextualize. He just keeps driving away at the same theory, and it starts to feel more like branding than honest engagement.
Like I know a lot of people think Morj is just delusional, but it feels to me more like strategy on his part. If doesn't serve his brand to express doubt in raid failure or point out evidence against his own theory because he has already staked his claim. On the off chance that he is right, it is more impressive if he can say he was all in.
Coming from the ASOIAF/GoT fandom I saw a lot of this. People would stake their reputations on certain theories and characters, resist all evidence to the contrary, and then trash the story when they turned out to be wrong.
But the issue is that he presents evidence for the raid failing but doesn't really look at that evidence critically. It's like he is mounting a case to win an argument rather than seeking truth. As new information comes in and evidence mounts against the raid failing (Strawhats winning all of their battles, major plot threads being closed, Luffy losing twice and unlocking Gear 5th, the length of the raid itself) he doesn't amend his theory or contextualize. He just keeps driving away at the same theory, and it starts to feel more like branding than honest engagement.
Like I know a lot of people think Morj is just delusional, but it feels to me more like strategy on his part. If doesn't serve his brand to express doubt in raid failure or point out evidence against his own theory because he has already staked his claim. On the off chance that he is right, it is more impressive if he can say he was all in.
Coming from the ASOIAF/GoT fandom I saw a lot of this. People would stake their reputations on certain theories and characters, resist all evidence to the contrary, and then trash the story when they turned out to be wrong.
I think that the Emperors are stronger than Roger lol. Maybe not in a 1 vs 1. But Shiki got Roger cornered with his army and luck saved Roger lol.
They would had lost that battle, maybe it was Shiki who started this concept of Emperor. The novels says that in the era of Roger, the concept of Yonkou didnt exist. The original are WB, Big Mom, Shanks and Kaido and all of them started to rule as Emperors in the seas since non of them could reach Laugh Tale.
So they had to get more power, military power to overwhelm an another Emperor, something Roger didnt have to do, before it was just pirate crews vs pirate crews.
They would had lost that battle, maybe it was Shiki who started this concept of Emperor. The novels says that in the era of Roger, the concept of Yonkou didnt exist. The original are WB, Big Mom, Shanks and Kaido and all of them started to rule as Emperors in the seas since non of them could reach Laugh Tale.
So they had to get more power, military power to overwhelm an another Emperor, something Roger didnt have to do, before it was just pirate crews vs pirate crews.
