General & Others Do you think the ZKK theory made some Zoro fans more toxic?

#83
I'm pretty sure that if you completely hate ZKK and think it has 0 logic / sense, you are most likely a huge fan of Luffy and Sanji, and because of that you don't want Zoro to steal the spotlight.

That bias makes it hard to accept the theory.

The same way our bias torwards Zoro makes it easy for us to accept the theory.

I just think it's very weak how many people try to counter the MASSIVE amount of parallels, hints, story progression and so much shit that has been built up for a possible ZKK event as just "bs made by ztards, has no merit at all".
For me it was good theory at beginning, when we didn`t know matchups, but when was clear that Luffy will fight Kaido it become impossible. Now when Zoro is almost dead and we are coming to end of arc, believing that ZKK will happen is delusional.
 
#85
We all know how toxic some Zoro fans can get but before the ZKK theory, do you think they were just as bad as they are still now or do you think the theory of ZKK made them more toxic?

I didn't start reading One Piece until Dressrosa was nearing it's end, so before I caught up to One Piece I have no idea how bad the toxicity of some Zoro fans were back then.

As far as I can tell most Zoro fans seem pretty normal during the Zou arc to Reverie arc, but then we finally arrive at Wano and we get this whole ZKK theory and I notice how some not all but some Zoro fans got a lot more toxic.

So the question again is, did the ZKK theory made some Zoro fans more toxic or were they always as bad they are still now.
I hope it doesn't happen so they chill a bit
 
#86
We all know how toxic some Zoro fans can get but before the ZKK theory, do you think they were just as bad as they are still now or do you think the theory of ZKK made them more toxic?

I didn't start reading One Piece until Dressrosa was nearing it's end, so before I caught up to One Piece I have no idea how bad the toxicity of some Zoro fans were back then.

As far as I can tell most Zoro fans seem pretty normal during the Zou arc to Reverie arc, but then we finally arrive at Wano and we get this whole ZKK theory and I notice how some not all but some Zoro fans got a lot more toxic.

So the question again is, did the ZKK theory made some Zoro fans more toxic or were they always as bad they are still now.
 
#88
They are toxic and always will be.

ZKK in itself is not a bad theory it's just dumb to believe Oda will let it happen when he centers the story around Luffy time and time again

Zkk would have been more realistic if One Piece was written by the authors of JJk, Toriko, Naruto, Bleach, Hunter x Hunter etc
you know, saying an entire fandom is toxic (if you didnt mean to say that, you suck at communicating your ideas) is among the most toxic things one can utter. soo....congrats? i guess.
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@ZenZu made this point a while ago if I remember correctly, but basically, you can question whether or not all the "evidence" for ZKK is actually referencing ZKK in the first place. How do you know, for certain, that everything that Oda built up in his head was not in preparation for Zoro slaying King's dragon in 1035? You don't.
how would zoro slaying kings dragon fit into the second coming of ryuma witnessed by the wano citizens? this idea leaves out important aspects of the theory. Not that i support the theory, but this line of reasoning is super meh.
 

Pantheos

Heavy Metal
#89
ZKK itself as theory was fine at the beginning. Way over the top in my opinion, but everyone is biased his own way, so fine by me.
What made it toxic are some specific users which tend to insult everyone not agreeing with it. Also they spam the ZKK stuff in every thread, even tho it has nothing to do with it or Zoro itself. Just look at the spoilersthread every damn week. They cant stop intoxicate the threads every week.

But thats not it, they even create more ZKK threads on a daily basis and tag alot of people in it (like me) which already said dozen times they dont want to get tagged. So some user force alot of people see these topics daily, which starts to annoy pretty fast, specialy cause these threads are 9/10 times the same with different wording.

So these users, not the whole Z fandom for sure, annoy alot of users on a daily basis with the same content, which they dont care. They disturb nearly every discussion with this ZKK theory and even get insulting if the user dont agree.

This makes the theory on a long run very toxic.
 
#94
I guess we first need to agree about what being toxic means.

If it is to insult other users it clearly goes both way. The same if the definition of toxicity is trolling.

But if it is simply being too repetitive about a topic, then yes, you can tell that Zoro fans are toxic, but to me that's not actual toxicity .

What I hate the most is when some users wish that Zoro fans were dead*, and it just happened a couple of days ago.
This is real toxicity to me

*Edit: clearly I would hate the idea for other fanbases too, but so far the death wishes I've seen were only against Zoro fandom
 
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Gol D. Roger

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#95
@Garp the Fist

@Gol D. Roger

@Reborn (a funny troll, but not toxic itself)

@Dragomir

There are alot, they are just more quiet than the average loud screaming toxic guy. I like zoro also a lot, i was kinda a fan, but the toxicness of some here disturbed that a bit. :D
I am an associate and advocate, not a fan. Zoro fans hire me to represent them.
 

Pantheos

Heavy Metal
#96
I am an associate and advocate, not a fan. Zoro fans hire me to represent them.
You are listed in their Fanclub. It is official.
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I guess we first need to agree about what being toxic means.

If it is to insult other users it clearly goes both way. The same if the definition of toxicity is trolling.

But if it is simply being too repetitive about a topic, then yes, you can tell that Zoro fans are toxic, but to me that's not actual toxicity .

What I hate the most is when some users wish that Zoro fans were dead, and it just happened a couple of days ago.
This is real toxicity to me
If you see someone wishing death to another user, report it or show me, I gonna ban this person instantly. No matter against what kind of fandom this is.
 
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