Future Events Samurai and Dragons

Who will come out on top?

  • Samurai

  • Dragon


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#63
I mean if anyone's gonna kill Kaido, it will be Momo or Yamato.
They're the two characters with the biggest connection to Kaido out of anyone in the alliance.
They're the two characters who inherited Oden's will (and no, Zoro getting Enma does not count as inheriting Oden's will)
They're arguably the two most important characters to the plot and themes of Wano
And finally, they're both considered samurai
 
#65
Yamato or Momo will do what no other could do, kill the unkillable?
Why would Oda build such a legend for side characters? :sanmoji:
Are you a speedreader or something? Or do you just pay attention to Zoro and literally no other character?
Momo and Yamato are arguably the two most important characters in the alliance other than Luffy. They're the characters who most embody the themes of Wano and they're the two characters who inherited Oden's will, except in completely different and opposite ways. They're the two characters with the deepest connection to Kaido. They're the two characters who are the most likely to join the crew after Wano.
Why else do you think they're the two characters who about to witness Luffy defeat Kaido?
Why else do you think they're the two characters who most reflect both Kaido and Oden?

Zoro doesn't have any real connection to Kaido, despite what some shallow and cherrypicked parallels may suggest. If anyone kills Kaido it will be Momo or Yamato, two characters who have an actual connection to him.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#66
Are you a speedreader or something? Or do you just pay attention to Zoro and literally no other character?
Momo and Yamato are arguably the two most important characters in the alliance other than Luffy. They're the characters who most embody the themes of Wano and they're the two characters who inherited Oden's will, except in completely different and opposite ways. They're the two characters with the deepest connection to Kaido. They're the two characters who are the most likely to join the crew after Wano.
Why else do you think they're the two characters who about to witness Luffy defeat Kaido?
Why else do you think they're the two characters who most reflect both Kaido and Oden?

Zoro doesn't have any real connection to Kaido, despite what some shallow and cherrypicked parallels may suggest. If anyone kills Kaido it will be Momo or Yamato, two characters who have an actual connection to him.
Since I am a speedreader, explain to me how Yamato and Momo can kill the unkillable when not even Luffy can scratch him?
Are you perhaps the speedreader yourself and that point completely missed you? You need unparalleled power to kill Kaido.
Apparently, Momo and Yamato have a power greater than even Oden's and Zoro's despite Yamato couldnt scratch Kaido...

You are the moon unaware of the dawn,
May your purpose be fulfilled
And cast nine shadows on the night woven of 20 years
And you shall know the brilliance of the dawn.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#68
Are you a speedreader or something? Or do you just pay attention to Zoro and literally no other character?
Momo and Yamato are arguably the two most important characters in the alliance other than Luffy. They're the characters who most embody the themes of Wano and they're the two characters who inherited Oden's will, except in completely different and opposite ways. They're the two characters with the deepest connection to Kaido. They're the two characters who are the most likely to join the crew after Wano.
Why else do you think they're the two characters who about to witness Luffy defeat Kaido?
Why else do you think they're the two characters who most reflect both Kaido and Oden?

Zoro doesn't have any real connection to Kaido, despite what some shallow and cherrypicked parallels may suggest. If anyone kills Kaido it will be Momo or Yamato, two characters who have an actual connection to him.
Momo or yamato can't do shit to kaido
 
#69
Since I am a speedreader, explain to me how Yamato and Momo can kill the unkillable when not even Luffy can scratch him?
Are you perhaps the speedreader yourself and that point completely missed you? You need unparalleled power to kill Kaido.
What the hell do you mean Luffy can't scratch him? He's been clearly damaging Kaido throughout the fight with AdCoC attacks. And most likely, Luffy is only a few chapters away from beating him. Maybe even next chapter.
And guess what other character has AdCoC? Yamato.
Apparently, Momo and Yamato have a power greater than even Oden's and Zoro's despite Yamato couldnt scratch Kaido...
Holy cope
Zoro's powerup this arc was gaining an ability that Yamato already knew. And Yamato is a mythical zoan on top of that. And she has better feats them him since she fought Kaido 1v1 for multiple chapters.
If anything, she's stronger than Zoro.
She didn't """scratch""" Kaido because she fights using a blunt weapon and blunt weapons don't scratch people like swords do.

But all that aside, Yamato and/or Momo killing Kaido simply makes more narrative sense than Zoro. Zoro's biggest connection with him is some shallow parallels whereas Yamato is Kaido's daughter and Momo is the son of the man Kaido killed. They have actual connections to Oden while Zoro just has his sword.
This is even reflected in their powers. Yamato has the Devil Fruit of Wano's guardian deity and Momo has the Devil Fruit of Kaido.
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Momo or yamato can't do shit to kaido
Yamato has AdCoC, speedreader
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#70
What the hell do you mean Luffy can't scratch him? He's been clearly damaging Kaido throughout the fight with AdCoC attacks. And most likely, Luffy is only a few chapters away from beating him. Maybe even next chapter.
And guess what other character has AdCoC? Yamato.

Holy cope
Zoro's powerup this arc was gaining an ability that Yamato already knew. And Yamato is a mythical zoan on top of that. And she has better feats them him since she fought Kaido 1v1 for multiple chapters.
If anything, she's stronger than Zoro.
She didn't """scratch""" Kaido because she fights using a blunt weapon and blunt weapons don't scratch people like swords do.

But all that aside, Yamato and/or Momo killing Kaido simply makes more narrative sense than Zoro. Zoro's biggest connection with him is some shallow parallels whereas Yamato is Kaido's daughter and Momo is the son of the man Kaido killed. They have actual connections to Oden while Zoro just has his sword.
This is even reflected in their powers. Yamato has the Devil Fruit of Wano's guardian deity and Momo has the Devil Fruit of Kaido.
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Yamato has AdCoC, speedreader
And you window licker
All she got was a drop of blood off kaido
 
#73
She did nothing to kaido. Just got a drop of blood.
She couldn't even match tatsumaki let alone a permanent scar
She covered him in bruises and there were multiple instances during Yamato vs Kaido where we saw blood coming from Kaido's mouth
Blunt damage works different from cutting someone so that's why she didn't leave a scar. Blunt force doesn't leave that
 
#74
Zoro's powerup this arc was gaining an ability that Yamato already knew.
Zoro CoA>>>>>> Yamato CoC once he learned the ability he reached a level she can only dream of. Luffy also gained same ability Yamato already possessed does that put her on his level lmao.
And Yamato is a mythical zoan on top of that.
Still weaker than Zoro her mythical zoan ability didn't help her draw more than few drops of blood from Kaido. Don't forget she had the added advantage of knowing everything about her fathers style of fighting as opposed to Zoro he still outperformed her by a mile
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#75
She covered him in bruises and there were multiple instances during Yamato vs Kaido where we saw blood coming from Kaido's mouth
Blunt damage works different from cutting someone so that's why she didn't leave a scar. Blunt force doesn't leave that
She didn't come close to doing anywhere near what zoro did
Nor can she kill him with as you say blunt force up just bodied yourself
 
#76
She covered him in bruises and there were multiple instances during Yamato vs Kaido where we saw blood coming from Kaido's mouth
Blunt damage works different from cutting someone so that's why she didn't leave a scar. Blunt force doesn't leave that
Zoro scarred Kaido. That was a severely weaken and nerfed Zoro with 20 to 30 broken bones.

Zoro now has mastered enma, taken his CoA to a whole new level with his green aura blackened haki and obtained ACoC which he has taken to a high level.

Current Zoro is much more powerful than the one that scarred Kaido. ..

Yamato didn't have ACoC before the war.

Zoro's ACoC >>> Yamato's ACoC.
 
#77
Zoro CoA>>>>>> Yamato CoC once he learned the ability he reached a level she can only dream of. Luffy also gained same ability Yamato already possessed does that put her on his level lmao.

Still weaker than Zoro her mythical zoan ability didn't help her draw more than few drops of blood from Kaido. Don't forget she had the added advantage of knowing everything about her fathers style of fighting as opposed to Zoro he still outperformed her by a mile
This is the problem with peopel who take powerscaling too seriously. They make up headcanon and then act like it's somehow factual.
I already explained to you why the "few drops of blood" is a faulty way to measure her strength and that is the only single piece of evidence you have.
But that aside, that's not my main point here. Zoro has no connection to Kaido while Yamato and Momo do. Therefore, if someone kills Kaido it will most likely be them.
She didn't come close to doing anywhere near what zoro did
Nor can she kill him with as you say blunt force up just bodied yourself
She can beat his skull in.
And Luffy's about to beat Kaido with a punch. Don't see why it has to be a sword that beats ihm.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#78
This is the problem with peopel who take powerscaling too seriously. They make up headcanon and then act like it's somehow factual.
I already explained to you why the "few drops of blood" is a faulty way to measure her strength and that is the only single piece of evidence you have.
But that aside, that's not my main point here. Zoro has no connection to Kaido while Yamato and Momo do. Therefore, if someone kills Kaido it will most likely be them.

She can beat his skull in.
And Luffy's about to beat Kaido with a punch. Don't see why it has to be a sword that beats ihm.
Well speedreader maybe you missed the all the panels that point to taking his head off
 
#80
Are you a speedreader or something? Or do you just pay attention to Zoro and literally no other character?
Momo and Yamato are arguably the two most important characters in the alliance other than Luffy. They're the characters who most embody the themes of Wano and they're the two characters who inherited Oden's will, except in completely different and opposite ways. They're the two characters with the deepest connection to Kaido. They're the two characters who are the most likely to join the crew after Wano.
Why else do you think they're the two characters who about to witness Luffy defeat Kaido?
Why else do you think they're the two characters who most reflect both Kaido and Oden?

Zoro doesn't have any real connection to Kaido, despite what some shallow and cherrypicked parallels may suggest. If anyone kills Kaido it will be Momo or Yamato, two characters who have an actual connection to him.
Momo has no chance of joining the crew, if you payed any attention to his character that would be clear. He is not his father, therefore it benefits him nothing to do what Oden wanted to but couldn't, he'll do what Oden didn't want to do which is lead Wano and stay there. Imagine after 20 years of waiting for Momo to return he tells them he'd rather be a pirate, tell me why he's a shoe in to join the crew.

Yamato isn't even close to the most important in the alliance, hell most of the alliance don't even know who she is. If Oda wanted her to kill Kaido he would have tried harder to make her paramount to the arc, by either causing the majority of the conflict or giving her the sole ability to solve an aspect of the conflict. Think of, you know, any other arc dedicated to strawhats or future strawhats such as w7 and ennies lobby, TB, WCI etc.
Yamato doesn't have the ability to kill Kaido, she may have CoC coating but she isn't a swordsman, and we don't know for a fact what her views on killing are. If she can kill Kaido with blunt damage then so could Luffy, and to make Momo a killer while still mentally being an 8 year old is dumb. Neither of them are killing Kaido, they're not strong or important enough or that's not their character, you can pick one.
 
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