Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1048 Spoilers Discussion

[spiteful_platypus]

If the flashback is about momo crying with his mom I will go mad

 

[Paperchampion23]

But it was 106 who leaked these chapters

No I'm not talking about summaries and initial spoilers. We used have 5 different sources of of leaks. We still typically have 4 still:

- Korean: Initial spoilers (now gone)
- Redon: Initial spoilers/full summaries
- 5ch: Additional details between initial/full summaries
- Arab LQ raws: release hours after Lance leaks (Lance obviously timed it this way because he was aware of it)
- TCB/HQ release: release the following day

Redon is also temporarily not sharing (because of the last few weeks) and it seems 5ch hasn't gotten wind of chapter spoilers this week, but typically does. That means that if neither do, then we have LQ raws next. Since it's a double issue, it may come earlier than 4 days from now (normal time).

 

[Reborn]

At this point it's highly likely kaidou is using his awakening
What we can expect is a top notch haki attack
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Nah oda wouldn't do it at this point he is setting up all just so luffy can defeat him alone,otherwise no reason to give him his rare awakening

We Just can't assume that kaido is already using awakening especially when we consider that oda clearly highlighted awakening whenever someone has used it till now.



Luffy had all the reason to get awakening. Infact, we all knew that luffy will use Gear 5 right from the beginning.

What we didn't anticipate and trust me there is not even a single user who actually anticipated Kaido to be this monstrous and a beast. He clearly surpassed all expectation.


So, kaido to destroy G4 Luffy with Advanced haki and putting him to death bed was something unexpected and thus making awakening a fitting PU. We expected G5 but not G5 to be awakening which luffy has no idea about


Also, till Luffy was using G4 kaido was destroying him. Even after G5, kaido landed more hits on Luffy than what luffy did to Kaido.


So you tell me when actually you or anyone felt that kaido is pushed far enough to use awakening?

 

[TheSufferingGob]

I’m just ready for the flames clouds to be gone and Oda to pull out a 180 and say they were holding him back like weighted training gear

 

[Shimotsuki A.]

Only important Question will Zoro Land Dragon Blaze on Kaido Or Not?? Will Zoro Make Wano Fearsome as a Shimotsuki or Not?
Will Shusui Fulfill it’s Promise or Not??? Why Would Oda Emphasize that Much on Otoko,Shusui and Black Blades is He Down for the Count?? I don’t think so.
Luffy defeating Kaido won’t mean anything really As If Zoro Cut Onigashima or Kaido is a Samurai doing it and An One Eye Samurai nonetheless.

 

[Paperchampion23]

We Just can't assume that kaido is already using awakening especially when we consider that oda clearly highlighted awakening whenever someone has used it till now.



Luffy had all the reason to get awakening. Infact, we all knew that luffy will use Gear 5 right from the beginning.

What we didn't anticipate and trust me there is not even a single user who actually anticipated Kaido to be this monstrous and a beast. He clearly surpassed all expectation.


So, kaido to destroy G4 Luffy with Advanced haki and putting him to death bed was something unexpected and thus making awakening a fitting PU.


Also, till Luffy was using G4 kaido was destroying him. Even after G5, kaido landed more hits on Luffy than what luffy did to Kaido.


So you tell me when actually you or anyone felt that kaido is pushed far enough to use awakening?

I mean he has been pushed far enough, he's barely holding into the island, which is currently representing his remaining strength.

He does not define awaking as a transformation (yes, Luffy is transforming, but he has a human fruit as a human, so clearly he needed a diffentiator for awakening). Kaido defined awakening as your body "catching up" to your power. He can very well be using it. He seamlessly transforms into not only his 3 forms, but a more dragonlike hybrid when he uses his strongest moves.

I'd love a new form as much as anyone else, but Oda has yet to hint it and very closely this is the end of the fight.

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

....none of this has to do with the raid failing lmao.


Literally all of this can and will be addressed after they win. What does the raid failing have to do with answering any of these questions outside of postponing the inevitable

Huh? Raid failing or not these has to be addressed. Again no matter the Victor marines are still trying to take over wano. Luffy will still ve to weak to defend it which means more shit still has to go down in wano regardless if luffy wins or not

 

[vikas]

--Kaido has good understanding of what zoan awakening is i.e. a transformation so it should be unlikely he doesn't have one ; also his DF model is azure dragon too not fish or anything but lets see

He knows awakening but I think in that sentence he is just talking about zoan fruits being able to transform their body..... I don't expect much from awakening of kaido,... Just like BM.

 

[Reborn]

I’m just ready for the flames clouds to be gone and Oda to pull out a 180 and say they were holding him back like weighted training gear

I feel the same


And, this is exactly the reason I feel kaido hasn't awakened yet.


Awakening is draining and kaido was not only fighting everyone like in a gauntlet but also holding onigshima.


So onigshima being hold by momo will free kaido to direct that energy to use awakening.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Huh? Raid failing or not these has to be addressed. Again no matter the Victor marines are still trying to take over wano. Luffy will still ve to weak to defend it which means more shit still has to go down in wano regardless if luffy wins or not

Did you forget our conversation? None of those points have to do with the raid failing. That's the point. Luffy can win in 1049 and everything you said can be addressed

 

[Loki D. Terror]

He knows awakening but I think in that sentence he is just talking about zoan fruits being able to transform their body..... I don't expect much from awakening of kaido,... Just like BM.

This isn't a confirmed end game for BM ; for Kaido it is.

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Did you forget our conversation? None of those points have to do with the raid failing. That's the point. Luffy can win in 1049 and everything you said can be addressed

Bruh the point I clearly made was that they gave great reason why wano can last up to another year or more.

Marines won't be sideline in single chapter when they show up to wano to reap the spoils. That's a pipe dream. Again there is a plethora of things that has to be addressed after wano ends. And And not even factoring kaidos flashback

 

[Reborn]

I mean he has been pushed far enough, he's barely holding into the island, which is currently representing his remaining strength.

He does not define awaking as a transformation (yes, Luffy is transforming, but he has a human fruit as a human, so clearly he needed a diffentiator for awakening). Kaido defined awakening as your body "catching up" to your power. He can very well be using it. He seamlessly transforms into not only his 3 forms, but a more dragonlike hybrid when he uses his strongest moves.

I'd love a new form as much as anyone else, but Oda has yet to hint it and very closely this is the end of the fight.

Just forget everything and let's focus on few things.



Kata, doffy, luffy, law and kidd - when they awakened Oda highlighted it clearly.


But when a yonkou awakens , oda will not even care to drop something regarding it?

Sounds highly unlikely.


Second, him holding onigshima is actually a reason I feel he didn't use awakening till now.

It was holding him back. Onigshima was kind of nerf on kaido and was definitely holding him back when we know awakening is highly draining

 

[vikas]

This isn't a confirmed end game for BM ; for Kaido it is.

But what after awakening, after awakening we expect him to trash everyone like how luffy is doing

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Just forget everything and let's focus on few things.



Kata, doffy, luffy, law and kidd - when they awakened Oda highlighted it clearly.


But when a yonkou awakens , oda will not even care to drop something regarding it?

Sounds highly unlikely.


Second, him holding onigshima is actually a reason I feel he didn't use awakening till now.

It was holding him back. Onigshima was kind of nerf on kaido and was definitely holding him back when we know awakening is highly draining

To be fair when admirals were using haki it was not highlighted that they were using it.

Other than the zoans in impel down every other zoan as never been hinted at having one even though we can comfortably assume that alot do have awakenings. Marco for example

 

[Reborn]

To be fair when admirals were using haki it was not highlighted that they were using it.

Other than the zoans in impel down every other zoan as never been hinted at having one even though we can comfortably assume that alot do have awakenings. Marco for example

That's pre Ts.


When we didn't know awakening exist and what haki is really


Now we know so there is no reason for oda to pull marineford again or to hide it in plain sight

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

The Azure Dragon's ability is to enable it's contractee to see the future. Similar to the other Guardian Gods, the Azure Dragon takes something from it's child whenever a wish is made, and the cost of their wish is usually violent.

Hmmmm. So maybe kaido seeing the future has nothing to do with future sight as is simply an ability of his from his fruit.

Also the making a wish ability by taking/offering something. Hmmmm

 

[Kerkovian]

We Just can't assume that kaido is already using awakening especially when we consider that oda clearly highlighted awakening whenever someone has used it till now.



Luffy had all the reason to get awakening. Infact, we all knew that luffy will use Gear 5 right from the beginning.

What we didn't anticipate and trust me there is not even a single user who actually anticipated Kaido to be this monstrous and a beast. He clearly surpassed all expectation.


So, kaido to destroy G4 Luffy with Advanced haki and putting him to death bed was something unexpected and thus making awakening a fitting PU. We expected G5 but not G5 to be awakening which luffy has no idea about


Also, till Luffy was using G4 kaido was destroying him. Even after G5, kaido landed more hits on Luffy than what luffy did to Kaido.


So you tell me when actually you or anyone felt that kaido is pushed far enough to use awakening?

Kaido himself said that Haki surpasses all using Roger as an example. Why would he not say Awakening surpasses all if that makes him more powerful than he is?

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

That's pre Ts.


When we didn't know awakening exist and what haki is really


Now we know so there is no reason for oda to pull marineford again or to hide it in plain sight

Ugh wasn't Crocodile the first to talk about devil fruit awakening?
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Kaido himself said that Haki surpasses all using Roger as an example. Why would he not say Awakening surpasses all if that makes him more powerful than he is?

Simply answer its because haki snacks. Regardless of how powerful one's base abilities with mutipliers become that within itself can further improve with even better haki.

To put it simple great haki users don't need devil fruits while devil fruit users still need to depend on haki to best those other haki users with no devil fruits

 

[Reborn]

Kaido himself said that Haki surpasses all using Roger as an example. Why would he not say Awakening surpasses all if that makes him more powerful than he is?

Haki indeed surpass everything. I mean this is not new because we know characters who are without df but at the top.


However, how many are there who solely rely on df without haki and are at the top? I guess no one.


Awakening definitely is a PU but it doesn't surpass haki. Awakening means to use your df to the highest potential but you still be needing haki if you want to be at the top of the game.


And, that's what kaido wanted to highlight - you can have df or awakening or no df, it doesn't matter because ultimately it's your will power and haki which will shape how strong you can become
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Ugh wasn't Crocodile the first to talk about devil fruit awakening?
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Simply answer its because haki snacks. Regardless of how powerful one's base abilities with mutipliers become that within itself can further improve with even better haki.

To put it simple great haki users don't need devil fruits while devil fruit users still need to depend on haki to best those other haki users with no devil fruits

He never clearly mentioned it.


It was at the time of doffy when we learnt what exactly awakening is