Versus Battle Monkey D. Luffy VS Naruto Uzumaki || By Steinixos
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Can anyone summarize the video please?
From what i remember, Madara (one of the strongest) can dish out 2 large meteors...isn't Fujitora capable of doing so as well? His rubbles are island-level arent they?
Sharingan and Rinnegan are illusionary hax so Luffy may not be capable of avoiding all that...but does Naruto have illusion hax?
From what i know, CoC infusion can be a barrier to physical attacks so at least Luffy with CoC can deflect / counter / reflect some of Naruto's attacks including Bijudama / susanoo-style physical attacks.
From what i remember, Madara (one of the strongest) can dish out 2 large meteors...isn't Fujitora capable of doing so as well? His rubbles are island-level arent they?
Sharingan and Rinnegan are illusionary hax so Luffy may not be capable of avoiding all that...but does Naruto have illusion hax?
From what i know, CoC infusion can be a barrier to physical attacks so at least Luffy with CoC can deflect / counter / reflect some of Naruto's attacks including Bijudama / susanoo-style physical attacks.
One Piece characters are overall much stronger than Naruto characters.
If I remember correctly, Might Guy needed to open the 8 gates in the end just to be able to use Sky Walk.
Other characters could also move in the air in the series, but it was always with wings or some magical power of levitation, and never with physical strength.
If I remember correctly, Might Guy needed to open the 8 gates in the end just to be able to use Sky Walk.
Other characters could also move in the air in the series, but it was always with wings or some magical power of levitation, and never with physical strength.
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We see how big it was
Fujitora's meteor's range from building sized to like half the size of a Marine Battleship, a literal pebble compared to Madara's
And btw, can you show the impact when the meteor landed? Was there a crater or something?
By canon I was referring to the manga alone. All the filler scenes in the One Piece anime are also official, but that doesn't make them part of the manga's story. You're free to consider it all as canon though. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm just explaining that I was referring to something else.
Yeah, Raigou. I wasn't saying that was comparable to someone moving the moon. I was just saying it is quite impressive. I seems more destructive than most techniques in Naruto at least before the war arc. And Enel is an enemy that Luffy beat much time before the time-skip; Now Luffy is by far much stronger, he's also getting some godly powers, just like Naruto characters did in the end, and One Piece seems to be still far from ending.
I don't remember seeing Naruto characters dividing clouds just by clashing their weapons, by the way.
And even supposing that in terms of techniques Naruto characters can use much more powerful ones, that doesn't necessarily mean they are physically stronger than One Piece characters. Besides what I pointed out about Might Guy needing to open the 8 gates in order to be able to use Sky Walk (something all the CP9 could do easily), the impression I have is that Naruto characters have a more realistic durability, except in special cases, such as Gaara and Sasuke protected with Sunanoo, for example, whereas in One Piece everyone has superhuman durability.
In Alabasta Sanji was able to destroy a giant Crocodile while making the waters move away from him. And yet his first attempt to kick Blueno did absolutely nothing to him (though in the second try he almost knocked him out), and Jabura in base human form was almost 3 times stronger than Blueno, so in hybrid zoan Jabura's durability was by far superior to that, not to mention Rob Lucci. And Luffy was able to get through Lucci's durability, even though in Dressrosa, when Luffy was much stronger, Doflamingo was easily able to block Luffy's punches at first.
Also in Dressrosa, Sanji tanked Doflamingo's string attack that cut Fujitora's meteor.
And there are Kaidou and Big Mom, who couldn't be damaged by even very powerful people. Kaidou was captured and condemned to death many times, but no one could kill him.
How many characters with Kaidou's durability are there in Naruto? Perhaps Madara's durability is superior, but I'm not sure.
And Zoro was casually practically cutting a mountain in half in Dressrosa, when he was much weaker than he was while fighting King, and he was having difficulty to hurt King in defence mode.
Yeah, Raigou. I wasn't saying that was comparable to someone moving the moon. I was just saying it is quite impressive. I seems more destructive than most techniques in Naruto at least before the war arc. And Enel is an enemy that Luffy beat much time before the time-skip; Now Luffy is by far much stronger, he's also getting some godly powers, just like Naruto characters did in the end, and One Piece seems to be still far from ending.
I don't remember seeing Naruto characters dividing clouds just by clashing their weapons, by the way.
And even supposing that in terms of techniques Naruto characters can use much more powerful ones, that doesn't necessarily mean they are physically stronger than One Piece characters. Besides what I pointed out about Might Guy needing to open the 8 gates in order to be able to use Sky Walk (something all the CP9 could do easily), the impression I have is that Naruto characters have a more realistic durability, except in special cases, such as Gaara and Sasuke protected with Sunanoo, for example, whereas in One Piece everyone has superhuman durability.
In Alabasta Sanji was able to destroy a giant Crocodile while making the waters move away from him. And yet his first attempt to kick Blueno did absolutely nothing to him (though in the second try he almost knocked him out), and Jabura in base human form was almost 3 times stronger than Blueno, so in hybrid zoan Jabura's durability was by far superior to that, not to mention Rob Lucci. And Luffy was able to get through Lucci's durability, even though in Dressrosa, when Luffy was much stronger, Doflamingo was easily able to block Luffy's punches at first.
Also in Dressrosa, Sanji tanked Doflamingo's string attack that cut Fujitora's meteor.
And there are Kaidou and Big Mom, who couldn't be damaged by even very powerful people. Kaidou was captured and condemned to death many times, but no one could kill him.
How many characters with Kaidou's durability are there in Naruto? Perhaps Madara's durability is superior, but I'm not sure.
And Zoro was casually practically cutting a mountain in half in Dressrosa, when he was much weaker than he was while fighting King, and he was having difficulty to hurt King in defence mode.
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Because thats the whole point of the thread?
It opened up the discussion again by providing a conclusive argument as for why Luffy wins that I hadn't considered before.
Wanted to see what people thought about it.
You should read the comments. No one can come up with a response. One guy had to change the whole matchup and equalize everything just so Naruto could win. lol.
Madara's meteors were suicide attacks. Fujitora is a Marine who has to hold back to protect civilians. Context.
Simplifying it wouldn't do it justice. It would take an essay to summarize. Which people wouldn't read anyway because they're lazy.
They're totally in their rights to do so, but if they're not gonna watch it then they don't need to respond to the thread.
My goal was to see what people thought of the arguments. If they're not willing to even look at them then why bother?
It's there for people who are actually interested in the topic.
It opened up the discussion again by providing a conclusive argument as for why Luffy wins that I hadn't considered before.
Wanted to see what people thought about it.
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You should read the comments. No one can come up with a response. One guy had to change the whole matchup and equalize everything just so Naruto could win. lol.
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Madara's meteors were suicide attacks. Fujitora is a Marine who has to hold back to protect civilians. Context.
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Simplifying it wouldn't do it justice. It would take an essay to summarize. Which people wouldn't read anyway because they're lazy.
They're totally in their rights to do so, but if they're not gonna watch it then they don't need to respond to the thread.
My goal was to see what people thought of the arguments. If they're not willing to even look at them then why bother?
It's there for people who are actually interested in the topic.
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Its still canon.We see the events between Chapter 699 and 700,thats it.The Movie shows us how Naruto and Hinata become a pair.The event and the cast is Canon.Like Boruto the Movie is canon
Yeah,thats right but nobody Pre-TS scales to that attack as Enel needs prep-time and Ars Maxim for that attack.Its not something he can dish out of his ass.Its an specific attack.Also this is EoS Nardo,not his Pre-War Arc counterpoint.Same reason why nobody scales to Kaguyas final goudama.
Ok and?Most of this skysplitterfeats come out at 3 digit MT´s,thats mountainlevel.Do i rly need to bring up how Base Nardo blocked Toneris strongest attack with his bare hand,sends Toneri accross the Moon and made a giant crater inside the moon?Or even better,how Isshiki almost oneshotted Sauce with a casual kick which also destroyed his KS?
God-Tiers can tank small-planetlevel attacks like its nothing.No idea what you want with skywalk,thats just a ability,has nothing to do with stats
Cool
Fuji´s Meteor on Green Bit are...meh at best.The crater they made wasnt much at all.And the Meteors he used against Birdcage were indeed strong but Doffy never gets the scale as Birdcage was just made for the Plot to put Luffy in the spotlight.We know Fuji would be able to solo DR if he wanted.A small group trys to the get scale but its get rejected each time
Hes Multi-Continentlevel for scaling to WB and thats still Kindergarten for Nardo God-Tiers
Thats what the God-Tiers scales to:
In the last naruto the movie Toneri uses the power of his tenseigan to move the moon closer to the earth in order to destroy naruto's planet.
There was a lazy calc done for this already I believe but I think this was based on the assumption the moon began moving at the start of the movie but it was actually moving before it began. I wanted to do a more precise and detailed calc.
There comes a point where a 60 minute timeframe is given by the kages before Raikage can fire his moon busting weapon. I'm going to get the distance from the moon to the earth at around the time the statement is made and thus the timeframe begins and then again after the moon has stopped and the timeframe is made clear to have ended.
Waka got the narutoverse's planet diameter at 23,789.97 kilometers. The screenshot seen below was taken around the time the timeframe began.
Red line = Earth diameter = 74 pixels = 23,789.97 kilometers
Blue line = panel height = 180 pixels
I'll use angle size formula to get the distance.
2*atan(earth diameter in px/(panel height/ tan(70 / 2)))
2*atan(74/(180/ tan(70 / 2))) = 22.04528913735 degrees
http://www.1728.org/angsize.htm
Solve for distance and input values and this makes the distance from the moon to earth 61,066 kilometers at the start of the timeframe.
The screenshot below shows the distance between toneri and the earth but it also tells us the distance between the earth and moon at the end of the timeframe since the moon is right below toneri. I also could have used a screenshot of the moon seen from earth but I've heard arguments against using moon size from earth view due to size inconsistency.
Yellow line = earth diameter = 367 pixels = 23,789.97 kilometers
Purple line = panel height = 114 pixels
2*atan(367/(114/ tan(70 / 2))) = 113.503355756 degrees
http://www.1728.org/angsize.htm
7798.2 kilometers is end of time frame distance from earth.
61,066 kilometers - 7,798.2 kilometers = 53267.8 kilometers the moon travel in 60 minutes or Mach 43.
Thus the kinetic energy with moon mass would be 7.991806888173215e+30 joules or 1.9 zettatons or Small Planetlevel+
Every God-Tier.
Top-Tiers are indeed fodder for OP Top-Tiers,in fact,YC1 can defeat Hashirama
Cutting Pica in half isnt impressive at all.A normal Bijuudama from Kurama has more firepower
TLDR: Nardo God-Tiers>OP Top-Tiers>OP High-Tiers>~Nardo Top-Tiers.G5 defeats any Nardo-Version Pre-RS.Each form above that fodderizes the OP Verse
Than make a TLDR Version or give us the mainpoints from the Video.Nobody here is watching a Video which last 1 hour.
Yeah,thats right but nobody Pre-TS scales to that attack as Enel needs prep-time and Ars Maxim for that attack.Its not something he can dish out of his ass.Its an specific attack.Also this is EoS Nardo,not his Pre-War Arc counterpoint.Same reason why nobody scales to Kaguyas final goudama.
Ok and?Most of this skysplitterfeats come out at 3 digit MT´s,thats mountainlevel.Do i rly need to bring up how Base Nardo blocked Toneris strongest attack with his bare hand,sends Toneri accross the Moon and made a giant crater inside the moon?Or even better,how Isshiki almost oneshotted Sauce with a casual kick which also destroyed his KS?
God-Tiers can tank small-planetlevel attacks like its nothing.No idea what you want with skywalk,thats just a ability,has nothing to do with stats
Cool
Fuji´s Meteor on Green Bit are...meh at best.The crater they made wasnt much at all.And the Meteors he used against Birdcage were indeed strong but Doffy never gets the scale as Birdcage was just made for the Plot to put Luffy in the spotlight.We know Fuji would be able to solo DR if he wanted.A small group trys to the get scale but its get rejected each time
Hes Multi-Continentlevel for scaling to WB and thats still Kindergarten for Nardo God-Tiers
Thats what the God-Tiers scales to:
In the last naruto the movie Toneri uses the power of his tenseigan to move the moon closer to the earth in order to destroy naruto's planet.
There was a lazy calc done for this already I believe but I think this was based on the assumption the moon began moving at the start of the movie but it was actually moving before it began. I wanted to do a more precise and detailed calc.
There comes a point where a 60 minute timeframe is given by the kages before Raikage can fire his moon busting weapon. I'm going to get the distance from the moon to the earth at around the time the statement is made and thus the timeframe begins and then again after the moon has stopped and the timeframe is made clear to have ended.
Waka got the narutoverse's planet diameter at 23,789.97 kilometers. The screenshot seen below was taken around the time the timeframe began.
Red line = Earth diameter = 74 pixels = 23,789.97 kilometers
Blue line = panel height = 180 pixels
I'll use angle size formula to get the distance.
2*atan(earth diameter in px/(panel height/ tan(70 / 2)))
2*atan(74/(180/ tan(70 / 2))) = 22.04528913735 degrees
http://www.1728.org/angsize.htm
Solve for distance and input values and this makes the distance from the moon to earth 61,066 kilometers at the start of the timeframe.
The screenshot below shows the distance between toneri and the earth but it also tells us the distance between the earth and moon at the end of the timeframe since the moon is right below toneri. I also could have used a screenshot of the moon seen from earth but I've heard arguments against using moon size from earth view due to size inconsistency.
Yellow line = earth diameter = 367 pixels = 23,789.97 kilometers
Purple line = panel height = 114 pixels
2*atan(367/(114/ tan(70 / 2))) = 113.503355756 degrees
http://www.1728.org/angsize.htm
7798.2 kilometers is end of time frame distance from earth.
61,066 kilometers - 7,798.2 kilometers = 53267.8 kilometers the moon travel in 60 minutes or Mach 43.
Thus the kinetic energy with moon mass would be 7.991806888173215e+30 joules or 1.9 zettatons or Small Planetlevel+
Every God-Tier.
Top-Tiers are indeed fodder for OP Top-Tiers,in fact,YC1 can defeat Hashirama
Cutting Pica in half isnt impressive at all.A normal Bijuudama from Kurama has more firepower
TLDR: Nardo God-Tiers>OP Top-Tiers>OP High-Tiers>~Nardo Top-Tiers.G5 defeats any Nardo-Version Pre-RS.Each form above that fodderizes the OP Verse
Than make a TLDR Version or give us the mainpoints from the Video.Nobody here is watching a Video which last 1 hour.