Who will be the next Strawhat


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Yamato fans headcanon:
We'll definitely get a big reaction out of her once Luffy defeats Kaido
Reality:
haha :) *looks at momonosuke*

Yamato fans headcanon:
She'll get to interact with the crew once they go looking for luffy
Reality:
Luffy in already in bandages somewhere with a wooden floor, Yamato already left Luffy, and is inside the skull dome leading the beast pirates and talking about Momo being her general

Most likely, Chopper is the one that bandaged luffy since:
1.He was close to Franky inside the dome
2. Franky was close to the Beast Pirates that wanted to fight

Interaction with the crew status:
SKIPPED

:watchout::hope::ronalugh::parkcry::youcraz::leohah:
Remember this?

:gokulaugh:
 
Didn't think C4N and dizzy posts can surpass ZKK and Beast Pirates awakening copium, boy was I wrong, it goes far and beyond
Wait until they get their awakening.. it will be a wild ride until wano is over and the thousand has left port.
And it is confirmed there are no stowaways.
Imagine Raizo, Caribou, Yamato and King celebrating their new spots on the sunny and Carrot sayingbl goodbye from Zunisha.
 
Summary of Yamato's role by Yamato Discord staff, ranked from high probability


- Combatant

Generic/common fight related roles, like Zoro's Swordsman and Usopp's Sniper.
Supporting case: Yamato has AdCoC

- Log Keeper

All writing/journey related roles.
Supporting case: Yamato had Oden's Logbook. Same paper-type role as the other 3 female SH.

- Ship Guard | Guardian

Defender / Tank type job. Although this can be combat related role, but more emphasize on Utility.
Supporting case: Yamato has Guardian class DF. Black Cat Pirates has this role. IRL Japan's Yamato Transport has black cats as logo.

- Apprentice

Newbie on the group, learning pirate life.
Supporting case: Yamato has little experience in the sea. Buggy & Shanks on Roger's ship.

- Stonemason

Wano's long-lost, exclusive role.
Supporting case: Yamato had Oden's Logbook which may contain it's knowledge. Importance of Poneglyph.

- Lookout

Scout role.
Supporting case: Sunny has a Crow's Nest.

- Brewer

Sake brewer.
Supporting case: The importance of Bink's Sake, cup of sake in relationships, and Party throughout the story. Chapter 999-1000 title.
You guyz need to understand that a spot/post on the crew can't be as simple as saying "she will be this". A post is not just a simple "place" on the crew, it's the result of the accumulation of theme and actions in the character arc and personnality of the strawhats.

You guys surely know the term "milking" as an expression. But do you guyss really understand what it means in term of storytelling ?

In storytelling, "Milking" is before everything else.. a technique. Shortly, by recontextualizing the themes of the story in different aera of the storytelling, an author will help his readers understands more clearly his vision and will create an "echo chamber" of his own themes in his own narrative thus creating a more powerful story.

I created THIS article to talk about this technique on my blog:

Concerning the post and the strawhats, the "Milking" technique applies.

A post is not just a place. It's a continuation of the theme presented by the character arc and the characterization of the character. A post isn't only here to make good crewmate, it's also here to enhance the "power" behind the different characterization and stories of the strawhats. It's the "end point" of the character, the environment in which the character will realize themself.

Thus.. The actions related to the post are linked directly to the characters. The post is basically acting as a enhancer for the theme surrounding the character.

Let's see why with some the strawhats:

ZORO - You could argue that Zoro is just a "combattant", but narratively, Zoro is much more than that: he is the "first mate/Vice Captain". The vice captain is supposed to have enough leadership to take the role as captain if necessary. In theory, they are also here to question and keep the captain straight. The fact that Zoro is the one choosed by Oda and designed for that role is not innocent. Zoro is a man driven by honor. In the crew, he is the beacon of rightness, and everything from his story to his abilities are enhanced to reaffirme that characterization: The theme of the lone Ronin, the Sword, his backstory. Everything in the story is created to test Zoro's integrity. That's why Zoro is fit for the job of Vice-captain and the compass of Luffy.

SANJI - Sanji is the cook. But he is not "just" a cook. His entire characterization is designed to make him a great cook: Sanji is characterized as one of the nicest man there is. This trait of character is what permits him to understand that you must always feed the one who is hungry. Making him amazing for the job. But the post is not only enhanced through Sanji's cahracterization, it was enhance by the entire arc Sanji was in, the designs of the characters. The concept of "being a cook" was designed to be impactfull and the need for it to be urgent. All of that made the post very relevant in term of Narration.

JINBE - Jinbe is the helmsman. At first sight, the milking of the relationship between his characterization and that post is not obvious, but a closer look is helpfull. In reality, the post is also an extension of Jinbe's characterization and narrative. Jinbe is one of the "guide" of the crew (they are 4, Zoro(Honor)/Nami(Direction)/Robin(Cap)/Jinbe(Moral)), he acts as a moral support. In a sence, Jinbe is very similar to Zoro but when Zoro's thematic is focused around Honor and Sacrifice, Jinbe's thematic is more focused around abnegation and moral and responsibilities. He is the one that will keep you in the light and in reality. This is why Jinbe is not only a helmsman litterally but also figuratively. Jinbe is the ones who observe and guide. He is the wise one and the one you can really rely on when everything is burning around you. All of this thematic is extented by the fact that Jinbe is from the abyss, he directely witnessed oppression and is guided by one thing: to help his owns.You can also add to that that the role of the helmsman was primordial during the escape of whole cake.. and you got here the perfect job for Jinbe. Making sence both narratively and in term of characterization.

Carrot is ALSO following that principle:

CARROT: Carrot is a Sentry (LookOut+Sentinel): The thematic surrounding Carrot is all about Wonder in front of the sea. In that sence everything from Carrot's design through Carrot's story arc to her characterization and her post is designed to enhance that specific theme. From the start, Oda designed Carrot as a cheerful character then went his way to make her the voice of the "new innocence" in front of the seas. Carrot is the one who is amazed by things that usually terrifies everyone, she has a vision of the sea completely restricted by her lack of knowledge, making her the best character to discover it. She is the one who will rush into the unknown, she is the one that will laugh at danger, she will always wonder about new things. Basically.. Carrot is the character that is the most fit to see the world in a new way. Carrot's vision of the sea is also the one who is the most challenged. Everything in her story is created to make her struggle and question that wonder.. but just like every strawhat.. Carrot is also build as a hero. She isn't meant to succomb to those struggles. That thematic of "wonder" is not only enhanced by her story, but also and mostly by her design and her specificity: Carrot is mink. So, during the full moon, Carrot transforms, not only as a sulong beast, but a litteral moon goddess. Her design in Sulong is meant to evoque Wonder, magic and the mystical. Carrot is Sulong, becomes the impersonnification of Wonder. Once she transforms, she is not the one who watches, she is the one who is being watched.

And like every strawhats.. her post on the crew is an extension of that theme. The duality of Carrot around the thematic of Wonder is also enhanced by the dynamic of her post. In base form, Carrot is the lookout. Passive in front of the world, she witnesses.. she wonders, she admires with Joy and cheers. But once she becomes a Sulong, Carrot becomes active, cold and playfull, she becomes the warrior, the ones the other watches, the one that creates wonders.

Carrot might not be a strong warrior, or have capacities like Viola to see beyond kilometers.. but she is definitely the character with the best qualification to be up their and be the eyes of the crew.

As you can see.. This can be done for every strawhats and their respective thematics AND with Carrot. Each strawhats's post/roles are extensions of a specific thematic.. for a good reason: Oda designed his crew to be a bunch of missfits repreenting strong values:

Honor / Pride / Kindness / Courage / Intelligence etc.. All of this does not only serv the characters, it serv the entire story of One Piece. The strawhats are representing the core values of the characters and their post are here to enhance those values.

So...

Do you guys are starting to understand why I'm always saying that to have a post on the Sunny is VERY important in term of storytelling and you can't just "throw" a character into a role?

A role must be impactfull. It must be relevant in relationship to the characterization of the character. It must enhance the theme surrounding the character and his story.

So.. does it make sence for Yamato to become a Sake Brewer or even a combattant ? In the narration.. no.

Combattant:

Yamato has never been characterized as a combattant at hearth, she only fought and became strong because of circounstance. Fighting is not one of the main value of Yamato.. In fact.. fighting is not a value at all.. it does tell us anything. Being a "combattant" on the ship would be meaningless both in term of characterization and storytelling. What does it add to the story ? Nothing. It just the defaut state of a strong character in One Piece, it's nothing worth developping.

Log Keeper:

Did you ever see Yamato write or having a strong relationship to writing ? No really huh? Well that's logical, Yamato is a reader, she experiences she doesn't create. Becoming a Log keeper/storyteller COULD mean something if that aspect of Yamato was developped. If she tried - for example - to imitate Oden's log book as a child.. that would have been pretty telling.. no ?

Plus let's not forget that keeping the Log is Nami's job as a navigator. So I would love this to be the way Oda is going for.. but there are not enough evidences in the story to support that hypothesis.

Sake brewer:

Same... let's pass on the fact that being a Sake Brewer would help in NO WAY the strawhat during their journey, what would it tell us in term of storytelling ? That alhcool is important ? That yamato is somehow the bringer of Alcoohol ? Sake plays indeed a part in the story as a link between brotherly characters, but the actual stories of the strawhats, in the actual characterization of Yamato in her actual story ? Nothing... it's purelly and utterly irrelevant.

Yamato's thematic revolves around self discovery, freedom and responsibilities. In a sence, Yamato is an extension of LUFFY's thematic and right now, nothing is enhancing those themaric as a speciality for Yamato.

Don't get me wrong, I would love for Yamato to discover a passion for Ropes or Ship maintenance.. but let's be real here.. All the strong roles on the ship are being taken care of. And until further evidence and characterization of Yamato around the theme of writings.. I can't take the Log Keeper hypothesis into account.

@CarrotForNakama you no longer have an excuse man.
Don't worry, if an L happen I will take it, now is not the time. But I think you should also be prepared to take a huge one..

You see, If I'm wrong, I still win, my conclusion would be wrong, but the setup and everything I noticed in the story is still here so my reasonning minus the conclusion would still holds a cadle in term of narration and possibilities of the story...

But if I'm right, I'm not only proving my point, I'm proving that EVERYBODY here was completely and utterly IGNORANT on the subject and completely full of themselves. I would be creating an earthquake so strong on that thread that it would be ripping a hole in all your missconceptions about storytelling in the span of a mear second..

So.. yes I'm prepared.. but don't forget that it could go my way too.. and if that happens.. I wouldn't want to be in your embarassing shoes.


Like I said, more panels dont change what she is, it just makes it a longer participation
Yes it do changes things, in fact the difference of treatment do changes things.


Rebecca did, fighting alone doesnt change anything either
Rebecca was a main Arc character, the comparison with Carrot is therefore completely irrelevant.


Oh look temporarly allies who will be parting their ways now that it's over..



Did he actually admit he took an L? That would genuinely shock me and I'm surprised he isn't trying to spin some other bullshit around it
You know that narratively, Morj was actually right to expect the fail of the raid. He just didn't take into account the development of the Gear 5.


Literally went through 30 pages of C4N being neg diff'd by everyone
Strange, I see the opposite


Anyone thinking Luffy will reject her after she stalled Kaido 1 on 1
Luffy will probably not reject her, she will just change her mind

Best mod Kirosh banned me for calling Yamato a female
SJW tumblr and Reddit users.
it is super sad woke twitter, Instagram, some on reedit, tiktock and tumblr have not watch other anime and manga to understand what type of character Yamato is base on. As well they refuse the learn and understand Japanese culture and norms
am I the only one who feel disgusting when hearing about transgender?
Damn, there are actually good mods on reddit. No wonder worstgen is becoming the place for the right wing confusionnist mascus and incel part of the One Piece fanbase if people like you guys find yourself at home here. Glad I'll be gone soon. Eww it stinks.



And still there are no big signals that Carrot will join.
There are, you are just missing them :milaugh:
 
Maybe because they remind me by Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Damn, there are actually good mods on reddit. No wonder worstgen is becoming the place for the right wing confusionnist mascus and incel part of the One Piece fanbase if people like you guys find yourself at home here. Glad I'll be gone soon. Eww it stinks.
Take the rabbit with you
:brootea:
 
I am not a troll. @dizzy2341 knows it too, I'm not really on Carrot4Nakama team. We argued too in WCI days with me defending Pedro.

But yep, Yamao fans on this site are army of clowns who formed the entire circus. Not that surprising though, I can see the similarity afterall it is Yamao's role if she ends up joining the crew.
Yeah lol. Been the case for ages back on the OJ threads. You and many others were often arguing against me, yet never once did I genuinely consider that any of you (bar a special someone) may have previously been in an asylum.

Yet here we are, and we've somehow got the feet lickers, the mentally ill, and ravagerblade all united on one side. By default, simply being opposed to that makes you unquestionably in the right.

Got clowns whom I didn't even know existed until today, wallowing about the impact I've had on their lives. Utterly jobless doesn't begin to describe it lmfao

Ur right it truly isn't a surprise how they became so enamoured for Yamao. A retarded 28 year old, living in her parents' basement who's deluded herself into thinking she's someone that matters. You can see why they took so quickly to the character
 
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Yeah lol. Been the case for ages back on the OJ threads. You and many others were often arguing against me, yet never once did I genuinely consider that any of you (bar a special someone) may have previously been in an asylum.

Yet here we are, and we've somehow got the feet lickers, the mentally ill, and ravagerblade all united on one side. By default, simply being opposed to that makes you unquestionably in the right.

Got clowns whom I didn't even know existed until today, wallowing about the impact I've had on their lives. Utterly jobless doesn't begin to describe it lmfao
Cope and seethe
The retarded Oden Cosplayer booted the furry off the Sunny :gokulaugh::funky:
 
Yeah lol. Been the case for ages back on the OJ threads. You and many others were often arguing against me, yet never once did I genuinely consider that any of you (bar a special someone) may have previously been in an asylum.

Yet here we are, and we've somehow got the feet lickers, the mentally ill, and ravagerblade all united on one side. By default, simply being opposed to that makes you unquestionably in the right.

Got clowns whom I didn't even know existed until today, wallowing about the impact I've had on their lives. Utterly jobless doesn't begin to describe it lmfao

Ur right it truly isn't a surprise how they became so enamoured for Yamao. A retarded 28 year old, living in her parents' basement who's deluded herself into thinking she's someone that matters. You can see why they took so quickly to the character
 
A role must be impactfull. It must be relevant in relationship to the characterization of the character. It must enhance the theme surrounding the character and his story.

So.. does it make sence for Yamato to become a Sake Brewer or even a combattant ? In the narration.. no.
Normally I don't bother into Nakama discussion because people are already set into their own thinking and point of view, that they skew everything without regard to anything else. But I'll humor you.

In your post, you glorify each character's traits and actions, so that it fit their Job/Role. But why can't you do the same to Yamato?

According to your technique, I will apply your reasonings to Yamato:

ZORO - You could argue that Zoro is just a "combattant", but narratively, Zoro is much more than that: he is the "first mate/Vice Captain". The vice captain is supposed to have enough leadership to take the role as captain if necessary. In theory, they are also here to question and keep the captain straight. The fact that Zoro is the one choosed by Oda and designed for that role is not innocent. Zoro is a man driven by honor. In the crew, he is the beacon of rightness, and everything from his story to his abilities are enhanced to reaffirme that characterization: The theme of the lone Ronin, the Sword, his backstory. Everything in the story is created to test Zoro's integrity. That's why Zoro is fit for the job of Vice-captain and the compass of Luffy.
YAMATO - You could argue that Yamato is just a "combattant", but narratively, Yamato is much more than that: she has the Guardian of Wano Devil Fruit. The guardian DF is supposed to have enough strength to take the role as guardian/defender/protector if necessary. In theory, they are also here to not just defend, but also attacks offensively, which mean she as a combatant needs to go to... combat. The fact that Yamato is the one choosed by Oda and designed for that role is not innocent. Yamato is a woman driven by justice. In Wano, she is a functional combatant and guardian, and everything from her GUARDING Momo, stalling Kaido, defuse the bomb, motivate Momo, to her abilities of putting off the flames, freeze the bomb, enhanced mythical zoan durability to defend, are enhanced to reaffirme that characterization: The theme of the guardian, the combatant, her backstory. Everything in the story of her repressed childhood, idolizing Oden, loves freedom, wanting to set sail, is created so that she can guard Momo, Wano, and everything. That's why Yamato is fit for the job of Combatant and/or Guardian and the protector of Luffy.

SANJI - Sanji is the cook. But he is not "just" a cook. His entire characterization is designed to make him a great cook: Sanji is characterized as one of the nicest man there is. This trait of character is what permits him to understand that you must always feed the one who is hungry. Making him amazing for the job. But the post is not only enhanced through Sanji's cahracterization, it was enhance by the entire arc Sanji was in, the designs of the characters. The concept of "being a cook" was designed to be impactfull and the need for it to be urgent. All of that made the post very relevant in term of Narration.
YAMATO - Yamato is the Log Keeper. But she is not "just" a Log Keeper. Her entire characterization is designed to make her a great Log Keeper: Yamato is characterized as one who loves freedom. This trait of character is what permits her to go adventuring and explore the world, and write them down. Making her amazing for the job. But the post is not only enhanced through Yamato's cahracterization, it was enhance by the entire arc Yamato was in, a shackled and repressed character who wants freedom so that she can explore the world and WRITE all of it. The concept of "being a Log Keeper" was designed to be impactfull because Momo found confidence by reading his father's Log Book and the need for it to be urgent, because Yamato know some helpful info about reaching Laugh Tale from Oden's Log Book. All of that made the post very relevant in term of Narration.

JINBE - Jinbe is the helmsman. At first sight, the milking of the relationship between his characterization and that post is not obvious, but a closer look is helpfull. In reality, the post is also an extension of Jinbe's characterization and narrative. Jinbe is one of the "guide" of the crew (they are 4, Zoro(Honor)/Nami(Direction)/Robin(Cap)/Jinbe(Moral)), he acts as a moral support. In a sence, Jinbe is very similar to Zoro but when Zoro's thematic is focused around Honor and Sacrifice, Jinbe's thematic is more focused around abnegation and moral and responsibilities. He is the one that will keep you in the light and in reality. This is why Jinbe is not only a helmsman litterally but also figuratively. Jinbe is the ones who observe and guide. He is the wise one and the one you can really rely on when everything is burning around you. All of this thematic is extented by the fact that Jinbe is from the abyss, he directely witnessed oppression and is guided by one thing: to help his owns.You can also add to that that the role of the helmsman was primordial during the escape of whole cake.. and you got here the perfect job for Jinbe. Making sence both narratively and in term of characterization.
YAMATO - Yamato is the Apprentice. At first sight, the milking of the relationship between her characterization and that post is not obvious, but a closer look is helpfull. In reality, the post is also an extension of Yamato's characterization and narrative. Yamato is one of the least experienced of the crew (they are 3, Chopper(Naivety)/Usopp(Cowardice)/Nami(Timidity)), she acts as a little sister of the crew. In a sence, Yamato is very similar to Chopper but when Chopper's thematic is focused around naivety, Yamato's thematic is more focused around inexperience. She is the one that doesn't know a lot about real pirate in outside world works. This is why Yamato is not only a Apprentice litterally but also figuratively. Yamato is the ones who observe and learn. She is the curious one and the one you need to teach when everything is burning around you. All of this thematic is extented by the fact that Yamato is from the Wano, she directely witnessed oppression and is guided by one thing Oden's Log Book: to help FREE Wano and explore the sea LIKE ODEN as Apprentice. You can also add to that that the role of the apprentice was her motivation and goal in helping the war during the raid of Onigashima.. and you got here the perfect job for Yamato. Making sence narratively because by helping the alliance wins the war, she can free Wano and set sail outside AS APPRENTICE and in term of characterization, a Princess who is jailed all her life to learn about the outside world, AS APPRENTICE.

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See? I used your words to back my argumentts.
If you just put the correct words to everything AND have an open-minded thinking, you won't reject Yamato as much as you do.
 
the difference of treatment do changes things.
Except the is no difference besides panel time, wich you still have to provide evidence to why that makes her any different than the other girls
Rebecca was a main Arc
Again, so was Carrot, you keep insisting that she was something different when that perfectly explains how Oda handled her prior and after Whole cake, she was the main female ally of that arc and thats that
 
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