Questions & Mysteries Why do you just assume Sanji defeated Page One?

[BossYimz]

I will still hold some reservationsa as we dont know if P1 is still part of the flying fish, he might havebeen demoted.

However, going by the anime as extra info, and the fact that Kaido seems to be proud of flying 6 and all are present at banquette, it seems as though P1 is fine and is still part of flying 6.

So this will mean Sanji failed to accomplish his objective of reducing Kaido's forces before the final battle

 

[SHIHI]

Forget Queen.
Its Sanji vs P1 round 2 :yasu:

 

[Rivaille]

I will still hold some reservationsa as we dont know if P1 is still part of the flying fish, he might havebeen demoted.

However, going by the anime as extra info, and the fact that Kaido seems to be proud of flying 6 and all are present at banquette, it seems as though P1 is fine and is still part of flying 6.

So this will mean Sanji failed to accomplish his objective of reducing Kaido's forces before the final battle

The issue is that Page One being demote or not does not change a thing. I mean Sanji said that he will decrease Kaido’s force, if Page One is on Onigashima, as a flying six or not, it proves Sanji failed.

Now if Page One come back as a Flying Six this most likely mean that he was not defeated because, as other users have stated, failure is not acceptable in the Beast Pirates crew.

In two weeks, I think that we will have a definitive answer.

 

[Kishido]

failure is not acceptable in the Beast Pirates crew.

Holdem?

 

[Rivaille]

Holdem?

Forget about him. So I was wrong on that statement.
I guess Sheephead was just hate by Jack

 

[Dark Hound]

Shishio was right as usual :smithnie:

 

[General Kanki]

Page1 comeback ain't negate whether he really got beaten or not, it's still unclear until we got more info (if oda care) Imo

However Sanji still failed in one thing "decreasing enemy numbers" as he stated during the fight

 

[Bullet]

Sanji said that he would beat Page 1 and it's been 10 days since we last saw him even if he's here it wouldn't mean that he didn't lose so until Oda decides to show the end of that fight or imply that Page 1 didn't lose i'm gonna assume Sanji did beat him.

 

[style]

Why do you just assume Sanji defeated Page One?

I never assumed that

 

[Finalbeta]

Chapter indicates P1 is ready for rematch with Sanji.

Of course he is. That will be Sanji's final Wano battle.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

Already had my say in the spoiler thread so will keep it short.
- Page 1's presence on Onigashima only solidifies the notion that he got his ass handed it to him by Sanji as it eliminates the notion that he was killed by Drake. So current chapter only helps to support the notion that Sanji did defeat Page 1 if we assume that Page 1 is indeed part of the Flying Six gathered on Onigashima atm.

 

[comrade]

Sanji defeated Page One. Or have you seen him around after the fight? But obviously, Sanji didn't kill him and him returning a few days later makes sense.

I mean, Zoro defeated Killer as well and yet he is around, fresh and ready to fight.

 

[Nolimittweezy]

Already had my say in the spoiler thread so will keep it short.
- Page 1's presence on Onigashima only solidifies the notion that he got his ass handed it to him by Sanji as it eliminates the notion that he was killed by Drake. So current chapter only helps to support the notion that Sanji did defeat Page 1 if we assume that Page 1 is indeed part of the Flying Six gathered on Onigashima atm.

Pure delusion.

Sanji fans must be reading two piece. This is getting ridiculous.

There was nothing saying or implying that Page One was defeated.

Oda would never have one of the main baddies of a current enemy group (especially one that he's hyped heavily) defeated off screen by one of the protagonists and it's nonsensical to suggest such, especially when you have literally nothing to support the idea besides fanboyism.

 

[kurwa]

If Sanji made Page One inactive for 3 weeks with 3 basic kicks
That would make Sanji Yonko lvl if not more
all characters recover from wounds in few days, and Page One is an ancient zoan

So if Sanji made him disappear out of Wano with 3 basic kicks right until the raid
that legit is some impressive shit

 

[BossYimz]

The issue is that Page One being demote or not does not change a thing. I mean Sanji said that he will decrease Kaido’s force, if Page One is on Onigashima, as a flying six or not, it proves Sanji failed.

Now if Page One come back as a Flying Six this most likely mean that he was not defeated because, as other users have stated, failure is not acceptable in the Beast Pirates crew.

In two weeks, I think that we will have a definitive answer.

You are right.
Sanji wanted to defeat P1 in order to reduce Kaido's force.

If P1 will still capable of fighting and is in the banquet then Sanji failed to accomplish his goal

 

[Chrono]

Ugh....Im not giving in until we see a fully HEALTHY P1.


If he is still injured, then Sanji stuck to his word for crippling them.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

Pure delusion.

There was nothing saying or implying that Page One was defeated.

Haha I'm delusional ^^". Aight, good sir how do you explain Page 1's absence for the past 2 weeks or so? Keep in mind that Drake having killed him is currently off the table if Page 1 is indeed still alive. What do you think, U reckon he suddenly decided to go on vacation or some shit? . You seem to have way more discerning eyes than I do, so please do tell

 

[nik87]

I said PageOne wasnt defeated since February of the last year.
That gives you a taste of the period of how long our jester Moe is falsely hyping up Sanjino as someone who is beating credible foes in Wano. Toei negged his entire year-long career.

 

[MD Zolo]

Already had my say in the spoiler thread so will keep it short.
- Page 1's presence on Onigashima only solidifies the notion that he got his ass handed it to him by Sanji as it eliminates the notion that he was killed by Drake. So current chapter only helps to support the notion that Sanji did defeat Page 1 if we assume that Page 1 is indeed part of the Flying Six gathered on Onigashima atm.

1. Did we see the outcome of Sanji vs. Page1? Yes or No.
2. Is Page1 currently in the Tobi Roppo? Yes or No.

You keep building up narratives that doesn't exist. You were supposed to be a reputed poster who I respected very much. But since yesterday, you keep trying to fortify half-baked conjecture like:

1. We don't know if Page1 is still there
2. Page1 has been replaced
3. Page1 was defeated because he wasn't killed by Drake (him killing Page1 makes a lot of sense to you?!!)
4. Sanji kept his words and defeated Page1 but he recovered (this is the only palatable one)

All the while ignoring the facts that:

1. We never saw the outcome of the fight
2. The anime (even if it is not canon) decided to show that the outcome was Sanji leaving without Page1 being hurt (your insistence to ignore it is unfathomable since you are only making conjecture yourself)
3. All six Tobi Roppo are at the Banquet
4. One of the Tobi Roppo has similarities with Page1

I would be happy to say that I was wrong if in the next chapter we see:

1. No Page1
2. Injured Page1
3. Tobi Roppo complaining to Kaido about O-Soba Mask (which is a possibility since they are demanding an audience, obviously they are there to complain)
4. Page1 saying that Sanji was tough

But for now, the evidence is stacked against you and you are acting like a sore loser.

(I wanted to reply in the spoiler thread, but it was locked).

 

[Nolimittweezy]

Haha I'm delusional ^^". Aight, good sir how do you explain Page 1's absence for the past 2 weeks or so? Keep in mind that Drake having killed him is currently off the table if Page 1 is indeed still alive. What do you think, U reckon he suddenly decided to go on vacation or some shit? . You seem to have way more discerning eyes than I do, so please do tell

Why do you think him being defeated is the only way to explain his absence? Did it ever occur to you that he went back to wherever he was before the o-soba incident?

Also why would Drake kill page one?? Lol.