Speculations Suke Suke no Mi, inspired by Hokuto No Ken, is a special devil fruit

[nik87]

I was of the same thought until recently but when I reread that part it had a completely different meaning.
Koshiro says ”can cut nothing but at the same time cut steel” then we get Zoro passing his sword through a leaf before cutting a rock, and eventually Daz Bones. So basically a statement that brings through the ability to control your power regardless of the material you’re cutting.

That’s the most reasonable take. However you might think Shiryu getting this fruit is not a coincidence, which could be true, but the thing is having a completely intangible form is already wishful thinking tbh. As a Shiryu enjoyer myself the scenario I proposed is the best I can think of without getting majorly disappointed.

So for him to be intangible, yet also control the tangibility of his sword separately is too mad. And if “cutting nothing“ was meant for Shiryu then that means every time Zoro damages him he will be intangible to go with the theme, which suggests he can maintain this intangible form indefinitely. Sounds bonkers, this shit could be seen in Bleach but not One Piece.

It is brokenly overpowered, that's where we agree.
We will see soon enough how it ends up though.
I wouldnt be surprised if it would happen.

After all, Oda gave Lunarians an ability that makes Kaido's toughness look cute.
And aside from Plot induced stupidity, at least so far, nothing can damage them.
The same applies to Bartolomeo's Bari no Mi, complete invulnerability.

 

[zzShinichi]

Knowing Zoro and his fight, i think it;s more than likely that Zoro will pull a Kenpachi and let Shiryuu come to him instead of seeking for him and then be put down till the end of the arc due to massive injuries from pulling that stunt.

But Zoro and Oda are welcome to surprise me lol

 

[ZenZu]

Shiryu cut Magellan's left wing and horn

Yea when it was the entire prison fighting with him.

All that aside, Admiral >= Pre Skip Shiryu is straight up a retarded take, I expect better from you. Hope you're exaggerating here because even for someone who downplays Admirals that's one of the worst genuine takes I've seen in this forum, worse than some of the most delusional people on here tbh.

Shiryu doesn't even have the clout for that, he's not a needle mover, a solid addition to Teach's crew but nothing that makes an Admiral even blink or think twice, when one shows up by themselves to deal with the entirety of the BBP. Akainu would know he's on a suicide mission if he was taking on an Admiral + Gura Teach + Level 6 inmates. He was instead out for a casual stroll. Oda literally drew an Admiral in Sengoku in a 9 vs 1, I can't imagine for the life of me Oda drawing a 9 vs 1 against another Admiral, and the Admiral with the 8 man advantage is on his knees in the fucking background lmfao, that's the key word here, that's simply not how he chooses to portray characters who are on the same level.

You're out of your mind if you think Oda was just hiding this Admiral level character as some co warden of impel down rotting in a jail cell, and that he didn't let us the readers know there was someone who is at the top of the verse, instead he did the opposite any chance he came up against an Admiral (9 vs 1 background irrelevance on his knees against an Admiral, 10 vs 1 running from a single Admiral with a Yonkou candidate beside him). Yea that ain't it chief. Love how your beloved portrayal went from meaning everything, to meaning absolutely nothing in this case.

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Yea when it was the entire prison fighting with him.

All I know is Magellan is walking around with sheet metal because of Shiryu

All that aside, Admiral >= Pre Skip Shiryu is straight up a retarded take, I expect better from you. Hope you're exaggerating here because even for someone who downplays Admirals that's one of the worst genuine takes I've seen in this forum, worse than some of the most delusional people on here tbh.

I didnt mean it was that close. I also said its my headcanon. Pre-timeskip Shiryu>>Your boy Katakuri though

You're out of your mind if you think Oda was just hiding this Admiral level character as some co warden of impel down rotting in a jail cell, and that he didn't let us the readers know there was someone who is at the top of the verse

This part is bs. Get a girl bozo and stop taking winter depression out on Shiryu!

 

[ZenZu]

All I know is Magellan is walking around with sheet metal because of Shiryu


I didnt mean it was that close. I also said its my headcanon. Pre-timeskip Shiryu>>Your boy Katakuri though


This part is bs. Get a girl bozo and stop taking winter depression out on Shiryu!

Damn...GB shitting on King did a number on you I'll say lmfao, unfortunate like most of your outlandish takes time will prove you wrong once again.

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

GB shitting on King did a number on you I'll say lmfao

Not that. Its the bounty of the shichubukais. An army of this caliber was scared of Shiryu and Magellan.

unfortunate like most of your outlandish takes time will prove you wrong once again

Which outlandish takes are you talking about?! Are you smoking again?

 

[ZenZu]

Not that. Its the bounty of the shichubukais. An army of this caliber was scared of Shiryu and Magellan.

Yea sure, King being stomped out by GB has nothing to do with the YC1 slander all a sudden. Who are you fooling 😂?

Which outlandish takes are you talking about?! Are you smoking again?

Marco ~ Kizaru (aka YC1 ~ Admirals), MF WB stronger than Akainu despite canon showing otherwise (the classic I kept warning you damn near a decade ago, time will make this take look idiotic). Now you want to add Shiryu to the list of casualties, if anything I'm more of a Shiryu fan than you for trying to protect him from future slander.

Notice how all your bad takes revolve around Admirals lmfaooo you would think you'd learn the lesson by now. But nope, on to the next character to hand an L.

 

[Reborn]

An Admiral had Shiryu with his Captain + rest of inmates + crew run from him btw.

The same crew didn't give shit about whole navy including all admirals and FA and WB pirates when BB got Gura

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Yea sure, King being stomped out by GB has nothing to do with the YC1 slander all a sudden. Who are you fooling 😂?

King getting stomped elevated admirals in my rating, but it has nothing to do with YC1 slander. You cant deny that shichibukais got very good portrayal recently which hypes Magellan and Shiryu indirectly.

Marco ~ Kizaru (aka YC1 ~ Admirals), MF WB stronger than Akainu despite canon showing otherwise (the classic I kept warning you damn near a decade ago, time will make this take look idiotic). Now you want to add Shiryu to the list of casualties, if anything I'm more of a Shiryu fan than you for trying to protect him from future slander.

Healthy Oldbeard > Akainu, deal with it!

 

[ZenZu]

The same crew didn't give shit about whole navy including all admirals and FA and WB pirates when BB got Gura

So what? You're acting like I stated an opinion, that was a fact.

King getting stomped elevated admirals in my rating, but it has nothing to do with YC1 slander. You cant deny that shichibukais got very good portrayal recently which hypes Magellan and Shiryu indirectly.

I call cap. We've seen Warlords and how they stack up against YC1, in dedicated fights and panel time. Offpanel events and bounties don't magically erase all of that actual evidence. GB stomping on King doesn't make the Warlords magically stronger than him, it just means majority of them just get stomped out even worse than King does.

Bounties lol. We know Zoro is much much stronger than Jimbei, but Warlords carry tons of clout. Jimbei is no pushover but he's not as close to Zoro as his bounty indicates, just like the rest of the Warlords have inflated bounties.

 

[Reborn]

So what? You're acting like I stated an opinion, that was a fact.


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I stated a fact as well.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Just like Blackbeard going crazy and challenging everyone in Marineford can be explained with psychology, Blackbeard running away from Akainu can be explained too @ZenZu .

People were explaining "Blackbeard became out of character and too reckless because he was too excited with his newfound Gura Gura no Mi." He went as far as challenging anyone in Marineford, and ended up fighting 2 Old Top Tiers at once: non retired Fleet Admiral Sengoku and Garp.
He wasn't afraid fighting 2 of them, or do you wanna say Akainu alone is > old Sengoku + Garp together?

"But he was too excited".
Yeah using the same psychological approach, one can also say "Blackbeard is too tired with all the shits happened from Impel Down and Marineford, so when he saw Akainu post MF, his mood was like I am too tired for this shit, not this shit anymore".
That's why he escaped without putting any fight.

Some pirates just don't want to get into trouble with Marine. Even Whitebeard believed this, and Blackbeard was 1 of his son.

P.s.
Whole Doffy family also ran away from Tsuru alone. So Tsuru alone > Doffy + Pica + Vergo etc???

 

[ZenZu]

I stated a fact as well.

Yea I didn't dispute it. They did that, and yet they still ran from Akainu alone after.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Now that we put "Blackbeard is too tired mentally for more fight after ID and MF" into possibility, the whole "Shiryu = Admiral level is retarded take" is completely gone.

 

[Reborn]

Yea I didn't dispute it. They did that, and yet they still ran from Akainu alone after.

He wanted a warship but when he didn't get it then he just felt not involving himself further. There is nothing more to it

As I said, he challenged everyone in MF(Akainu was there) and even took on Sengoku+ Garp. This is better portrayal unless you think Akainu> everyone combined at MF

 

[ZenZu]

He wanted a warship but when he didn't get it then he just felt not involving himself further

As I said, he challenged everyone in MF(Akainu was there) and even took on Sengoku+ Garp. This is better portrayal unless you think Akainu> everyone combined at MF

I don't make the rules, that's clear cut portrayal. Who knows what would actually happen, what we do know is Oda drew Akainu making them all run away, and he didn't even bother to comment about Admiral level Shiryu.

 

[Reborn]

I don't make the rules, that's clear cut portrayal. Who knows what would actually happen, what we do know is Oda drew Akainu making them all run away, and he didn't even bother to comment about Admiral level Shiryu.

What we also know is BB challenged whole Navy at MF including Akainu and took on Sengoku + Garp (two top tiers) which is far better than what you are bringing up unless you think Akainu is above everyone at MF combined which is not the case

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What we also know is BB challenged whole Navy at MF including Akainu and took on Sengoku + Garp (two top tiers) which is far better than what you are bringing up unless you think Akainu is above everyone at MF combined which is not the case

Just to add - that BB was not 100% as he fought wB before challenging whole navy

 

[ZenZu]

What we also know is BB challenged whole Navy at MF including Akainu and took on Sengoku + Garp (two top tiers) which is far better than what you are bringing up unless you think Akainu is above everyone at MF combined which is not the case

He didn't. Akainu was preoccupied. None of the other C3 were involved. Only Sengoku and then later Garp.

Not that it even matters because following the war Akainu with a top tier df, perfect addition for the BBPs, still made them all run away. With Teach himself admitting he's not ready for that smoke even in a 10 vs 1 advantage despite the Magu and Battleship to be gained.

 

[King7]

Just like Blackbeard going crazy and challenging everyone in Marineford can be explained with psychology, Blackbeard running away from Akainu can be explained too @ZenZu .

People were explaining "Blackbeard became out of character and too reckless because he was too excited with his newfound Gura Gura no Mi." He went as far as challenging anyone in Marineford, and ended up fighting 2 Old Top Tiers at once: non retired Fleet Admiral Sengoku and Garp.
He wasn't afraid fighting 2 of them, or do you wanna say Akainu alone is > old Sengoku + Garp together?

"But he was too excited".
Yeah using the same psychological approach, one can also say "Blackbeard is too tired with all the shits happened from Impel Down and Marineford, so when he saw Akainu post MF, his mood was like I am too tired for this shit, not this shit anymore".
That's why he escaped without putting any fight.

Some pirates just don't want to get into trouble with Marine. Even Whitebeard believed this, and Blackbeard was 1 of his son.

Yes , he was out of his mind because he got the Gura .

And where is the panel that suggested he fought Garp ?

"But he was too excited".
Yeah using the same psychological approach, one can also say "Blackbeard is too tired with all the shits happened from Impel Down and Marineford, so when he saw Akainu post MF, his mood was like I am too tired for this shit, not this shit anymore".
That's why he escaped without putting any fight.

Some pirates just don't want to get into trouble with Marine. Even Whitebeard believed this, and Blackbeard was 1 of his son.

BB literally said "i'm not ready for that yet" then commanded all his men to run away right after .

If they could've destroyed Akainu ( especially since they had "aDmIrAl LeVeL" Shiryu ) , then why didn't they just do that ?
And take one of the strongest Logias in Magu , and the Battleship that they wanted .
And of course Bonney since BB seemed to want her as his woman anyway .

All of them were scared by PK level Awakened Akainu :

http://imgur.com/9coWC8j

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-1050-page-12.html

P.s.
Whole Doffy family also ran away from Tsuru alone. So Tsuru alone > Doffy + Pica + Vergo etc???

Tsuru's power level is vague but she is one of Marine legends :
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-796-page-21.html

So that is possible

But wasn't that young Doflamingo ..... That she caused to run away
How young that Doflamingo was again ..... 27 ?

 

[Topi Jerami]

And where is the panel that suggested he fought Garp ?

BB literally said "i'm not ready for that yet" then commanded all his men to run away right after .

If they could've destroyed Akainu ( especially since they had "aDmIrAl LeVeL" Shiryu ) , then why didn't they just do that ?
And take one of the strongest Logias in Magu , and the Battleship that they wanted .
And of course Bonney since BB seemed to want her as his woman anyway .

He is too tired, after what happened continuosly to him in Impel Down then Marineford.
- Invaded Impel Down
- Almost killed by Magellan
- Saved by Shiryu and recruited him
- Go to level 6 and made level 6 prisoners fought each other
- Recruited level 6 prisoners
- Attacked Magellan
- Went to Marineford
- Fought Whitebeard, killed him, got new DF
- Fought Old Garp and Sengoku, almost defeated them but then
- Shanks came
- Attacked by Bonney

Just think it yourself. After what happened to him, continuosly, over very small period of time, not only Blackbeard, everyone needs a break.

Tsuru's power level is vague but she is one of Marine legends :
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-796-page-21.html

So that is possible

Not possible.

How young that Doflamingo was again ..... 27 ?

Still older than your ass.