Fanclub Temple of The Grandmaster Zoro

[Zowo]

@nik87 (lik) @Enma @Cinera who do you think was the owner of nidai?

 

[Cinera]

It didnt become black blade because of Zoro's ability and aside from that it is like any other sword, I guess...
Any other sword Zoro has, once forged into black blade, wont be any inferior to Shusui.

That's not what I'm talking about. Why did Zoro lose it? It doesn't seem to make much narrative sense for him to be permanently relieved of the blade?

 

[Enma]

@nik87 (lik) @Enma @Cinera who do you think was the owner of nidai?

I don't think Nidai has had owner yet. Hitetsu is keeping it with him.

 

[Zowo]

I don't think Nidai has had owner yet. Hitetsu is keeping it with him.

i think it was ushimaru s sword

 

[nik87]

That's not what I'm talking about. Why did Zoro lose it? It doesn't seem to make much narrative sense for him to be permanently relieved of the blade?

He willingly gave it up since it means so much to people of Wano and got a replacement of the same grade.
He has no attachment to any blade aside from Wado.

 

[Cinera]

@Zowo if Zoro replaces the Sandai, it seems more likely that he would acquire the Nidai instead?

 

[Cinera]

He willingly gave it up since it means so much to people of Wano and got a replacement of the same grade.
He has no attachment to any blade aside from Wado.

I understand why he did it. But he inherited Ryuma's will and it was the blade's desire to be wielded by Zoro. Zoro relinquishing it undermines the theme of inherited will.

 

[Enma]

I understand why he did it. But he inherited Ryuma's will and it was the blade's desire to be wielded by Zoro. Zoro relinquishing it undermines the theme of inherited will.

Let's say that Oda didn't know how to give Zoro his power-up, so he brought Shusui ---> Enma deal.

 

[Finalbeta]

Zoro will never ditch neither Shusui nor Wado. This is probably what I feel to ascertain.

Ryuma and Kuina are too important figures for him.

 

[nik87]

Zoro will never ditch neither Shusui nor Wado. This is probably what I feel to ascertain.
Ryuma and Kuina are too important figures for him.

If my Kitetsu fetish comes true, he will ditch both.

 

[Cinera]

If my Kitetsu fetish comes true, he will ditch both.

You want Zoro to give up the sword he inherited from Kuina and is his only memento of her?
You want him to give up the blade he received from Hiyori?
You want Zoro to be wielding a mere Ryo Wazamono?

 

[nik87]

You want Zoro to give up the sword he inherited from Kuina and is his only memento of her?
You want him to give up the blade he received from Hiyori?
You want Zoro to be wielding a mere Ryo Wazamono?

Yes. 3x Kitetsu. All 3 forged into Kokuto.

 

[Den_Den_Mushi]

I understand why he did it. But he inherited Ryuma's will and it was the blade's desire to be wielded by Zoro. Zoro relinquishing it undermines the theme of inherited will.

Oh well, not necessarily. Zoro will still cut down a dragon over the skies of Wano, be it King, Kaido or both. Zoro and pals are technically working to undo what Ryuma was doing, which was defending Wano as a closed country. By opening Wano, Zoro would already have chosen a different path to Ryuma. Either way, we don't know if Zoro will get Shusui back or not; Gyukimaru is still in the picture and can bring Shusui back if he wants to.

 

[BossYimz]

That's not what I'm talking about. Why did Zoro lose it? It doesn't seem to make much narrative sense for him to be permanently relieved of the blade?

Personally I think he has to give it back and forge his own path forward. It is also already a black sword and Zoro won't be able to make it black himself thus taking away from the legacy he is going to create. Shusui was stolen from Ryuma's grave. The Shimotsuki have the tradition of using the swords as gravestones when the master dies.
Irrespective of how powerful the sword is, that is their tradition. So I believe after Zoro saw how Shimotsuki treat their swords, he decided to return it to its proper owner.

I think Zoro when he goes to Ryuma's grave, and hears the stroy will return it. It will probably be an emotional thing like when SH let Sunny go.

 

[Cyrus the Cactus]

You want Zoro to give up the sword he inherited from Kuina and is his only memento of her?
You want him to give up the blade he received from Hiyori?
You want Zoro to be wielding a mere Ryo Wazamono?

Sandai isn't even a Ryo Wazamono. The Kitetsu grades go from Saijo O-Wazamono -> O-Wazamono -> whatever is below Ryo Wazamono

 

[Cinera]

Sandai isn't even a Ryo Wazamono. The Kitetsu grades go from Saijo O-Wazamono -> O-Wazamono -> whatever is below Ryo Wazamono

Oof. Truly not a sword worthy of the future WSS. He needs to ditch it ASAP. Yes every blade can become Kokuto, but there's a reason Mihawk uses the world's finest sword and not any other.

 

[KiriNigiri]

I'm probably the only one here who'd rather he keep the Sandai Kitetsu. He's used it for the majority of the series and it's never failed him. Just because Mihawk uses the world's strongest blade doesn't mean Zoro should follow suite in only getting the highest grade swords. He isn't Mihawk. He's the world's first Santoryu swordsman, and he shall forge his own legend, not emulate another's.

Spoiler

 

[Cinera]

I'm probably the only one here who'd rather he keep the Sandai Kitetsu. He's used it for the majority of the series and it's never failed him. Just because Mihawk uses the world's strongest blade doesn't mean Zoro should follow suite. He isn't Mihawk. He's the world's first Santoryu swordsman, and he shall forge his own legend, not emulate another's.

Spoiler

There's a first time for everything.

@nik87 would prefer it as well. It's still a fodder sword though, and the upgrade is right in front of Zoro.

 

[KiriNigiri]

There's a first time for everything.

@nik87 would prefer it as well. It's still a fodder sword though, and the upgrade is right in front of Zoro.

And Zoro hasn't really shown any interest in owning it. Unless you suggest he loses Sandai Kitetsu, that's another thing we'll disagree on.

 

[Cinera]

And Zoro hasn't really shown any interest in own it. Unless you suggest he loses Sandai Kitetsu, that's another thing we'll disagree on.

King breaks it.



Either way, there's not really any reason for Zoro to keep Sandai over Nidai, and Zoro has shown interest in the Sandai. He's never done that for a sword that didn't end up in his possession (the last I remember was Shusui).