Current Events Blackbeard going for 'That thing'

[Yo Tan Wa]

Chapter 956 states that Blackbeard desires to go for 'That thing' before navy does.

One thing which we can imply from BB statement is both navy and BB desires it and it's very important and it's more like a movable object that he can posses and escape before navy does.

But it's one of the Oda mystery for which we won't get answer soon. So let's explore some ideas regarding what 'that thing' could be

1)Kaido Devil Fruit - now, we know that Kaido has strongest zoan Df and based on speculation that BB will get third Df as wel, it makes sense that BB is talking about Kaido DF.

Issue - why navy would suddenly be interested in Kaido DF? we know Kaido was already captured 18 times (some times by navy) and there is no panel indicating navy interest in Kaido DF. Also, as of now only BB knows how to extract Df once someone is killed. Navy hasn't been portrayed doing this or even knowing this.

2)Mera Mera no mi - well it's Ace Df and now Sabo inherited it. BB also asked Ace to join him and we have seen Burgess going for this Df in Dressrosa.

Issue : along with same issues which I mentioned in case of Kaido DF, we have some more here which makes it least possible scneario.

Why BB and navy would go for this Df? There is nothing much special about it. If BB really cherished this Df then Burgess would have Informed him before Dressrosa tournament began, and we could have seen BB raiding Dressrosa but it didn't happen.

3)'that' stands for wano - now this seem a bit logical as it will justify BB taking Kaido DF and also in line with navy trying to get wano under its control.

We also came to know about Drake being secretive agent, BM and Kaido alliance and Orochi unreasonable demand to cp 0, so navy may take action here and thus BB call to move first.

Issue - "that thing" in BB statement implies something for which he needs to take quick action first to posses or obtain it before navy does and escape so that navy doesn't get hand over it.

Now, wano is territory which isn't movable so even if BB gets to Wano first, navy can still try to throw BB out and get wano.

Also, this chapter and news coverage within it was about Reverie so we can infer that BB statement was more related to Reverie event than wano.

4)shirahoshi the ancient weapon - now, as news was about Reverie so BB may have come across news regarding shirahoshi returning to FI. So, he decided to take action quickly before navy gets to her. We also know that navy would definitely try to get it's hands on ancient weapon considering it's importance.

Issue - how BB came to know about shirahoshi being ancient weapon? Why navy didn't capture Shirahoshi when she was in Reverie if this was so important as it would be much more easier to do at holyland than going to FI.

5)alabasta - somewhere I feel it could be related to alabasta event

Issue - it's my headcannon lol

6)warlords - as some users suggested that BB statement is about 'they' which could be a reference to warlords.

Issue - warlords are scattered throughout the grandline and not just in one place or just in new world so locating them once they moved out would be really difficult.

Also, why would BB seek warlords? He already got the crew and going after warlords doesn't make sense. Another issue here is, it doesn't co relates with something BB desire so much that he needs to take quick action before navy

7)Road PG - well BB needs it to reach Raftel lol

Issue - my headcannon again

What you guys think? Is there any other possible scenario?

BB always is on the look out for strong allies, and the opportunity to have Mihawk n Weevil, i dont think he would wanna let it pass by. Plus Navy are also going after em. I find it one of the most likely possibilities.

I would have mentioned in Fighting RHPs as well, bt Navy ain't after em. Neither it is object that one could posses and nor info any of em has any op df.

I think it also might be Dragon, WG tactfully handled in Cobra or Vivi and blamed Sabo for it, which is very wise step for nations to loose trust in revo that will bring mistrust and weaken the revolution against WG. And DRAGON would have no choice bt to act on it or make a counter move nw, which is what WG is lookin for to bait Dragon out. We also know BB also attacked Revo in their base during WCI arc so it could be something BB might have his eyes on. Afterall if anyone has chanecs of knowing the Dark history of WG, it's Dragon and there might be easily something that BB wants with Dragon.

Marines also are gonna after Kaidou, since he is bout to fall. This would again be perfect opportunity for BB to steal that df, bt i think this is too obvious of a possibility hence less likely.

 

[Inspector_Mu]

If not warlords then Pluton or some ancient weapon

 

[Xione]

could be but who will he realistically recruit tho? cant be boa/mihawk/weevil/kuma
they have other allegiances

maybe buggy lmao

Weevil is a realistic option

 

[Garp the Fist]

Weevil is a realistic option

Weevil hates Blackbeard for killing Whitebeard

 

[Buusatan94]

Weevil hates Blackbeard for killing Whitebeard

Yes, I could see him becoming an ally against Blackbeard since he hates Teach for killing his "father".

 

[Xione]

Weevil hates Blackbeard for killing Whitebeard

Blackbeard is a smooth guy, he can cut a deal with the mother or convince the mother in another fashion or the classic Kaido way force Weevil himself. The issue really is just how he'd deal with the mother, Weevil himself is just a puppet that can to be controlled.

 

[Reborn]

@Buusatan94 @Just a member @Garp the Fist @mad monk @Yo Tan Wa @King7 @Bogard @KiriNigiri @Stack Bundles Chinx @dar @DizzyBrows @Xione @Jo_Ndule

Now, Dfs and wano can be excluded because no matter how much I think about them, I am not able to make much sense considering we have to see each case from both BB and Navy perspectives as statement implied both desire it.

Also, BB facial expression indicates excitement of getting something that he long desired. His statement indicate its something he can possess like an object by using force (gathering whole crew) and is also movable.

With warlord, I have some big issues.

1)out of four warlords portrayal, Mihawk and Boa can clearly be ruled out as they will not submit to him in any case. Weevil had feud with BB. So we are left with only buggy which I don't think bb will consider so precious.


2)location - BB is in NW and for him to locate all of them (Mihawk, buggy are on the move and weevil is always on the move) through out the grandline doesn't make sense.

3)even if I assume BB is after them, but they aren't something BB can obtain or posses even by using force and just by keeping them in captive won't serve any purpose, BB and Bonney situation is case in point.

So, to me warlords aren't making sense. However, if it's related to warlord then my bet would be "not all warlords" but just 'weevil and his mother' for some reasons unknown to us.


But after weighing everything, ancient weapon still comes out to be best possible case. Now, we know that Pluton isn't in alabasta. It's blueprint was burnt by Franky. Navy should be aware of this and as I said we have to see from both navy and bb perspective.

So it's either Shirahoshi or Oda can introduce uranus here.

 

[Finalbeta]

He can straight up kill them and take their DF if they refuse. Good news for Burgess as the man who recieve less to none love from everybody can take Hancock's DF

Hancock will never die, she has to marry the future Pirate King :smithnie:

 

[Buusatan94]

@Buusatan94 @Just a member @Garp the Fist @mad monk @Yo Tan Wa @King7 @Bogard @KiriNigiri @Stack Bundles Chinx @dar @DizzyBrows @Xione @Jo_Ndule

Now, Dfs and wano can be excluded because no matter how much I think about them, I am not able to make much sense considering we have to see each case from both BB and Navy perspectives as statement implied both desire it.

Also, BB facial expression indicates excitement of getting something that he long desired. His statement indicate its something he can possess like an object by using force and is also movable.

With warlord, I have some big issues.

1)out of four warlords portrayal, Mihawk and Boa can clearly be ruled out as they will not submit to him in any case. Weevil had feud with BB. So we are left with only buggy which I don't think bb will consider so precious.


2)location - BB is in NW and for him to locate all of them (Mihawk, buggy are on the move and weevil is always on the move) through out the grandline doesn't make sense.

3)even if I assume BB is after them, but they aren't something BB can obtain or posses even by using force and just by keeping them in captive won't serve any purpose, BB and Bonney situation is case in point.

So, to me warlords aren't making sense. However, if it's related to warlord then my bet would be "not all warlords" but just 'weevil and his mother' for some reasons unknown to us.


But after weighing everything, ancient weapon still comes out to be best possible case. Now, we know that Pluton isn't in alabasta. It's blueprint was burnt by Franky. Navy should be aware of this and as I said we have to see from both navy and bb perspective.

So it's either Shirahoshi or Oda can introduce uranus here.

Yes it might either be a very precious df or an Ancient Weapon, Blackbeard is always wanting to reinforce his power.

 

[Deleted member 83]

Pretty certain mangastream fucked up. @EtenBoby also translated the raw scan as "it"

Spoiler

We'd probably need the viz to be sure tho

In either case, at first i thought it could be Shirahoshi, but she was already on fishmen island by the marines, so can't be her. It seems to be something important the marines are also trying to get

The original sentence didn’t state whether it’s plural or singular, in Japanese they often skip the pronouns, so rn it’s all assumptions.So yeah, I would wait for Viz translation.

 

[Inspector_Mu]

The original sentence didn’t state whether it’s plural or singular, in Japanese they often skip the pronouns, so rn it’s all assumptions.So yeah, I would wait for Viz translation.

This means
Warlords are also an option

Teach is either going for ancient weapon or Warlords or dfs

 

[Just a member]

@Reborn well if it is actually a singular then an ancient weapon in Alabasta contended bybthe WG (even if just this is already a big speculation) could be the case, also it is time to introduce them in the story. But if it is a "them" then warlords are the most obvious choice. Buggy is on the run, but he is still there and only he knows about his plan, everybody else see him as a legend BB and WG included. Mihawk is waiting for them on Kuragaina and Boa is in Amazon lily too. I agree that warlords most likely will not yeld to BB but does BB knows and accept that? I don't think so, and afterall pretty much all the warlords accpeted that role to have protection and cover for something that maybe BB can give them too (Amazon lily for Boa, himself for Buggy, trade and protection for Doffy)

 

[Kejon]

Pretty certain mangastream fucked up. @EtenBoby also translated the raw scan as "it"

Spoiler

We'd probably need the viz to be sure tho

In either case, at first i thought it could be Shirahoshi, but she was already on fishmen island by the marines, so can't be her. It seems to be something important the marines are also trying to get

It's BM's poneglpyh. They know she is in Wano so they will try to steal it.

 

[Zowo]

Mihawk joins the blackbeard pirates

 

[dar]

@Reborn
Maybe I'm getting it wrong but everyone reads the newspaper, so oda makes me think bb talks about Sabo like he did on last chapter after orochi knows all the plan then he showed us Law(made me think Law traitor).
by that way, bb is absolutely coward I'm not saying he's not powerful(he scared shanks, didn't he). raid dressrosa? doflamingo? same as directly 2kaido? no way! he only goes a match that he's sure he'll win!
burgess went 'couz of he was over-confident on himself (his catain too). I don't know burgess power lvl but they thought over than anyone in doflamingo's crew!( except doflamingo).
anyway, winning match is not important for bb, only they want to learn where is the fruit.. then with a simple ambush they may keep df with df knife!
he didn't kill ace for his df before. 'couz he needed ace for his movement to become ally with goverment/marine. like I said before only he needs where the df was!
but if I wouldn't see people while they read the news, I could say he'll go after wano...paradise of df... even kaido will be alive, his stamino will be low.... not only kaido, everyone in that island will be like that! it's easy way to take their df! he needs all df for his great df army!
I still choose "df"
thanks :)

 

[Buusatan94]

It's BM's poneglpyh. They know she is in Wano so they will try to steal it.

I doubt it, he would likely have already prepared his ships and left for WCI if it was his current target and BB is the kind of guy who would choose to pick a power-up before an item without power but very useful.

 

[ardym]

whatever the thing is the marine and BB knows about it and i bet Sabo as well , and ,maybe that's why he would fake his death so he will have the surprise factor on his side

 

[Kejon]

I doubt it, he would likely have already prepared his ships and left for WCI if it was his current target and BB is the kind of guy who would choose to pick a power-up before an item without power but very useful.

How is getting to raftel then? at some point he needs to steal her poneglyph. This is the perfect time for it.

 

[King7]

It's between these 3
- Warlords
- Sabo ( Mera Mera )
- something related to Alabasta ( Ancient Weapon )

But then again how did he know about Ancient Weapon being related to Alabasta ?

Also i don't think he knew Shirahoshi is one of 3 Ancient Weapons ( how would he know anyway ? ) , so i ruled her out

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I will wait for VIZ for whether it is "it" or "they" , if it's "they" i think Teach wanted to go after Warlords

 

[Buusatan94]

How is getting to raftel then? at some point he needs to steal her poneglyph. This is the perfect time for it.

He already had the perfect opportunity for at least one week and yet he didn't take it. Plus in general Blackbeard prefer to reinforce his power before taking the next step in his plans, he might want a very precious df or an Ancient Weapon to make sure that no other yonko can match him before collecting the infos to go to Raftel to be sure that he can be the undisputed Pirate King with no one to rival him in power like WB did with Roger.