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Which, when I suggested, @krogothwolf corrected me and said isn't a mechanic in this game.
Albeit. I haven't looked to double check him. So he could be lying, but why lie about something that we can fact check within an hours time?
Albeit. I haven't looked to double check him. So he could be lying, but why lie about something that we can fact check within an hours time?
Yeah I am considering that. But the more I read into this, the more likely that Flower is The Fool
Nat got Social/support for Flower
The Fool's class is social/support.
It lines up.
I'm not saying that I believe you are lying.
I just don't want the prince to claim regardless. Whether it is to confirm you or to refute your claim.
Nat got Social/support for Flower
The Fool's class is social/support.
It lines up.
I'm not saying that I believe you are lying.
I just don't want the prince to claim regardless. Whether it is to confirm you or to refute your claim.
I agree with kiwi here
social/support
seems to lie . flower is the fool imo
clear effort she is trying to get lynched. natalija essentially gave his role the previous day and flower didnt deem it necessary to act then but is doing so now
more curious to how people reacted when flower gave the news vs natalija
scum would use that as an opportunity to push a misguided lynch or would they be so bold on the second day? not exactly sure.
do we get news anyone converted or failed to convert.
since jailer is a blue dragon role are they also made aware of tac's alignment?
social/support
seems to lie . flower is the fool imo
clear effort she is trying to get lynched. natalija essentially gave his role the previous day and flower didnt deem it necessary to act then but is doing so now
more curious to how people reacted when flower gave the news vs natalija
scum would use that as an opportunity to push a misguided lynch or would they be so bold on the second day? not exactly sure.
do we get news anyone converted or failed to convert.
since jailer is a blue dragon role are they also made aware of tac's alignment?
You're picking at a tree with the chronological bit. It's just meant to give her a quick summary. I also made an error and had you "come online and defend yourself" later than other events. Don't build a house outta shit bricks, because that's a weak case to build against me given other things aren't in perfect order either.
I already explained the other but again, I don't expect you to be understanding. I think you're scum after all.
I already explained the other but again, I don't expect you to be understanding. I think you're scum after all.
There are two big contradiction parties.
Flower claim against NW and NAta
Cinera egarness to Lynch tac by believing flower very quickly and tac brushing aside flower being scum very quickly to sus cinera.
Now let's break down each things - first is flower vs NW and Nata.
This is what flower claimed
The most interesting parts about this claim are
1) she is too specific with her result and her Target - she investigated TAC is unseen.
2)her timing - right at the beginning of day one. Such specific claim right at the beginning doesn't seem to be the case of an unseen or cult because it's too risky
3)she said due to her role existing she knows that NW is lying about this game has cult. This implies that her role indicates there is unseen in this game just like how NW claims that his role indicates there is cult in this game.
However, problem is flower did pull something like this in past and claimed psychic if I remember well. Issue is with psychic she gave scum read on more than one player but here she is just too specific as if she is damn sure what she is claiming.
But her claim gets directly contradicted by nata
Interesting thing about this claim is
1) timing - this counter by Nata happened very suddenly and that too by a new player thus very likely too be true
2) flower is social support and cult - now once again this claim is very specific. It counters flower invest role and unseen presence and says she is cult member.. such specific claim right after another player makin claim that too so suddenly doesn't seem to be scum work.
Now let's assume few possibilities
1)if flower was post restricted or targeted by scum ability last night to act like this just like what happened to me in last game, then she could have find ways to give hints like I did in last game instead of directly going after that target player as per post restrictions. So this doesn't make sense.
Another issue with this is she specifically said that" she invesitagted and her role existing in game indicates there is unseen". Why she would claim that she is invest and her role existing in this game indicates there is unseen if she really got targeted to push tac case? This doesn't make sense
2)NATa got targeted to have framed result on Flower - this seem a possibility but here is my issue.
Flower claimed invest and nata argues she is social/support. Social/support role is present in all factions- BD/Unseen/Cult/NW. So, how come having result of social/support instead of invest amounts to framing ability work? It doesn't make sense
3) flower got framed result - well tac claimed that he was in jail..so if I am correct then , I don't think she would have gotten framed result but "her target is jailed result" so this doesn't make sense either.
Now,NW also claims that based on his role there is Cult and flower is lying about unseen.
Now, best way to deduce who is lying and who is speaking truth about claim is through more concrete information.
However,since this game feature evil faction that can convert, it's better that we sort this out during this day phase itself instead of leaving for the night and tomorrow day phase so that we can protect players who made right claim as all claims involved here are related to invest and are very important for BD and our vote should be on that person that give us most information
Now, there is another contradicting party - Cinera and tac which is linked to flower vs nata case. I will be addressing this in my next post.
Whom I would be voting, I will write in my next post along with reasons why voting that player could be informative and helpful to sort this mess.
Flower claim against NW and NAta
Cinera egarness to Lynch tac by believing flower very quickly and tac brushing aside flower being scum very quickly to sus cinera.
Now let's break down each things - first is flower vs NW and Nata.
This is what flower claimed
The most interesting parts about this claim are
1) she is too specific with her result and her Target - she investigated TAC is unseen.
2)her timing - right at the beginning of day one. Such specific claim right at the beginning doesn't seem to be the case of an unseen or cult because it's too risky
3)she said due to her role existing she knows that NW is lying about this game has cult. This implies that her role indicates there is unseen in this game just like how NW claims that his role indicates there is cult in this game.
However, problem is flower did pull something like this in past and claimed psychic if I remember well. Issue is with psychic she gave scum read on more than one player but here she is just too specific as if she is damn sure what she is claiming.
But her claim gets directly contradicted by nata
Interesting thing about this claim is
1) timing - this counter by Nata happened very suddenly and that too by a new player thus very likely too be true
2) flower is social support and cult - now once again this claim is very specific. It counters flower invest role and unseen presence and says she is cult member.. such specific claim right after another player makin claim that too so suddenly doesn't seem to be scum work.
Now let's assume few possibilities
1)if flower was post restricted or targeted by scum ability last night to act like this just like what happened to me in last game, then she could have find ways to give hints like I did in last game instead of directly going after that target player as per post restrictions. So this doesn't make sense.
Another issue with this is she specifically said that" she invesitagted and her role existing in game indicates there is unseen". Why she would claim that she is invest and her role existing in this game indicates there is unseen if she really got targeted to push tac case? This doesn't make sense
2)NATa got targeted to have framed result on Flower - this seem a possibility but here is my issue.
Flower claimed invest and nata argues she is social/support. Social/support role is present in all factions- BD/Unseen/Cult/NW. So, how come having result of social/support instead of invest amounts to framing ability work? It doesn't make sense
3) flower got framed result - well tac claimed that he was in jail..so if I am correct then , I don't think she would have gotten framed result but "her target is jailed result" so this doesn't make sense either.
Now,NW also claims that based on his role there is Cult and flower is lying about unseen.
Now, best way to deduce who is lying and who is speaking truth about claim is through more concrete information.
However,since this game feature evil faction that can convert, it's better that we sort this out during this day phase itself instead of leaving for the night and tomorrow day phase so that we can protect players who made right claim as all claims involved here are related to invest and are very important for BD and our vote should be on that person that give us most information
Now, there is another contradicting party - Cinera and tac which is linked to flower vs nata case. I will be addressing this in my next post.
Whom I would be voting, I will write in my next post along with reasons why voting that player could be informative and helpful to sort this mess.
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