Is this the biggest single-chapter demolition of a character & fandom?


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Luffy and Saint Shanks beating the dogshit out of Blackbeard before fighting each other for the rights to Laugh Tale would be amazing, ngl
Im not even going this far. Blackbeard can and will have his time of day in an epic clash with Luffy. This can be before or after Saint Shanks. It can be in a 3 way battle.

Im trying to understand the completely unearned idea that Blackbeard must dumbledore/jiraiya (Hes not even Luffy's mentor...) Saint Shanks to make him the "ultimate" villain lol. It literallt does not compute because i never actually hear good arguments for it.
 
Rocks D. Saint Shanks would explain a lot of the weight behind Saint Shanks actions, every calculated move, his presence, Adv CoC, Sengoku/Gorosei, etc
Right yeah
Plus its just another fun parallel between Saint Shanks and teach

Saint Shanks earing and working hard to surpass or emulate roger/xebec and their abilities
Teach stealing and manipulating his way to surpass or emulate newgate/xebec
 
Also, what's very interesting to note, is that Saint Shanks "allies" aren't really that strong. He just let's them fly his banner, so they are left alone.

Looks like his main crew is truly the bulk of his strength. We were saying he had his full force going into this battle, and it turns out, those guys don't amount to anything.
dory and brogy carry tbf
 
Why can’t he spoil how the BBPs fight?

We already know the devil fruits of the most important ones anyways.
When has Oda ever truly spoiled how any villain fights fully before they fight Luffy's crew?

This also takes into the assumption that either Oda fully spoils each and every one of their best moves (never would happen) or they somehow effortlessly defeat the RHP in an offscreen bout.

Im just asking, how can Oda justify 11 BBP members defeating 11 RHP members onscreen in a way that compliments how he does non-strawhat chapters?
 
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