Spoiler One Piece Chapter 980 Spoilers Discussion

[Jo_Ndule]

With Sanjikun logic now Apoo is a low top tier and can match Admirals
But overall Apoo perform was really good, didn´t expect him doing so much damage on Luffy and Zoro together, seems like Oda still carrie for the other SN.^^



Queen

Top tier Apoo who handled Wano Luffy and EnmaZoro... Luffy and Zoro can't even dodge so they run

Doffy with help was getting tagged by DR Law and DR Luffy ( who used g2 only once)

Anyway, it destroys " Doffy is above cracker coz he fought 2 SN for sometime " something Apoo who was chased off by BMP, can do easily to stronger Luffy and Co.

Doffy overrated
Zoro overrated
Luffy endurance is plot and him having FS was a mistake from Oda... Overrated
Katakuri AP falls below Apoo or whatever.

for sure :
1. Pre ts Apoo AP >= Marco is indeed confirmed. I've always said it Marco best feat is equalled by pre ts Apoo.
2. Doffy could never dominate 2 SN in 1v 2 as Apoo did.
3. Kata will never be tagged nor hurt by these blasts from Apoo coz he has better FS control
4. Zoro can't beat Cracker, I'm not even sure he will beat WhoWho less than high high diff
5. Luffy needs more PIS to even push Kaido to high diff
6. Apoo is above any SN not named Luffy Kidd Law Urouge.
7. Luffy NEVER beat not surpassed base Kata at WCI, there is no panel of Luffy actually dominating base Kata and winning, none, Kata falling by himself willingly.
The fact Kata was also awake and smiled that Luffy escaped , the dude let Luffy live. He wanted to taste defeat and fall on his back on purpose.
8. Oda doesn’t know how to handle Power scale
9. Apoo df can actually hinder someone from using CoO properly

 

[Balen]

Apoo attack 100 at Luffy, gets Luffy stunned.

Apoo attacks 20 at Zoro, gets Zoro Cut and he's bleeding.

It was different attacks

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Apoo attack 100 at Luffy, gets Luffy stunned.

Apoo attacks 20 at Zoro, gets Zoro Cut and he's bleeding.

Luffy is bleeding and knocked out. Got carried

 

[T.D.A]

Apoo attack 100 at Luffy, gets Luffy stunned.

Apoo attacks 20 at Zoro, gets Zoro Cut and he's bleeding.

Where did 100 and 20 come from?

 

[Omaiwaa]

Damn Apoo actually did some damage on Luffy and Zoro maybe we shouldn't take him lightly.

I never understood why people did tbf? He did the "most" against Kizaru in that supernova scuffle

 

[Fist_Of_Love]

Its not nerf Oda just doesn't want to draw him doing it everytime. We know how it works. We didn't even see him do it with G4 the last time.

Didn’t say it was a nerf it’s still gear 3rd attack regardless if he blows in his fingers or not my issue is why Oda drew it for fodders when he didn’t t show in his fight with kata or his sumo fight or when he used it on Kaido it made me believe he had mastered it

 

[Lifeismeh]

Still a KO though, let's face it this chapter is awful for tier specialists.

I think Zoro scene has more weight and Zoro fainting was highlited more, it can be taken seriously to some degree opposite to whatever happened to Luffy here

in the end both scenes shouldn't be used to judge their endurance obviously but it can tell us that their opponents are a threat

 

[Ravagerblade]

Damage control?

Just look at the size of their attacks. Doesn't take a genius to figure out which attack had more power.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Apoo achieved in 2 moves what it took 11 hours to Katakuri .

K.O Luffy

By " normal" reasoning @Jo_Ndule should now hype Apoo and trash Katakuri otherwise bias reader.

 

[Daikenki]

The big difference is that Sanji and Jinbe protect Luffy from the top tiers, while Zoro protects Luffy from Apoo

HEHE now you guys are saying Apoo isn't top tier....what a two-tongued bastards you guys are

 

[Shiroyru]

Ok luffy got kod and zoro got slashed and ran away just to be saved by kid
Neither of them looked good lol
Tho im pretty sure luffy fainted for a sec against the elephant gifter too

Only apoo hype

Only because Apoo was able to set up his music while they were fighting fodders. In a fair 1v1, Apoo would have a lot of trouble setting up his music before they can hit him

 

[pedxi]

Aight, I have to remember I'm talking to people extremely dumb power conceptions. It took 3 Shichibukai to knock him out. Kuma did one move and stopped him in his tracks.

You honestly have no idea what you are talking about. Kuma is still poised to be an enemy in the future. Oda's own words from Franky after the timeskip.

that attack didn't K.O Injured Zoro and Sanji pre time skip is u ok dr.power scaler

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

So, Luffy did not KOed



Lol, this confirm that Apoo not attacking them at the same time. It is his choice where he directing his attack. Rip Zoro dodge 1st and 3rd attack.

luffy didn't get koed Lmao
i'm sorry but your fs user is koed just like that. Fs bullshit Yc1 ++ Bullshit Luffy gear 2 > Zoro Luffy fs AdvCoa > Zoro Stop those bullshits zoro warned your fs user about apoo's attack but he fainted .
Zoro wants to fight kaido

 

[D.Querna]

He was one of Dragon's top commanders and very likely the NW commander (only regional commander missing from the RA) so I fail to see your logic here.

I mean very top.

Too Ashura Doji blitzed jack Infront.
Kuma Is a good player...but Zoro pre TS strenght with a sword harder than kuma's body was capable to scratch.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

The worst thing Oda’s ever done was make Zoro and Sanji antagonistic to one another from the jump. If he’d written them as friends, these spoiler threads would top out at 20 pages max.

 

[T.D.A]

I think Zoro scene has more weight and Zoro fainting was highlited more, it can be taken seriously to some degree opposite to whatever happened to Luffy here

in the end both scenes shouldn't be used to judge their endurance obviously but it can tell us that their opponents are a threat

Both cases hardly matter in the grand scheme of things. It just shows that characters can get hurt/wounded/have trouble. Fandoms get too caught up in trying to score points they feel as if their characters can't take any damage or have difficulty.

 

[Winsmoke Sanji]

Apoo achieved in 2 moves what it took 11 hours to Katakuri .

K.O Luffy

By " normal" reasoning @Jo_Ndule should now hype Apoo and trash Katakuri otherwise bias reader.

I mean if we are talking about white eyeing luffy and he gets back up Kat did that as well

 

[Ravagerblade]

It was different attacks

Apoo attacked Luffy twice... Zoro once.

 

[Paperchampion23]

that attack didn't K.O Injured Zoro and Sanji pre time skip is u ok dr.power scaler

I'm sorry, was it meant to be his strongest attack? Was it ever specified Kuma was trying? You are the person power scaling, don't wrap me in that bullshit. It's clear Kuma is a higher tier character. Luffy grouped him with Kizaru and Sentoumaru when his whole crew lost against them.

 

[comrade]

We know that Luffy likes to goof around. And Zoro also gets serious only once he puts on his bandana. So Zoro being cut by another supernova with an ability unknown to them isn't dramatic. He is going to beat King anyways.