Current Events Fujitora kills Mihawk and steals his title
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I wonder why you didn't post those pictures
Like I said, I think people need to create their own manga making their character stronger or weaker than who they want.
It's like people do not agree with Oda's words. And honestly, what is sad is that the ONLY PEOPLE who actually downplayed all three titles:
1- Strongest Man in World (Whitebeard) and called his title outdated.
2- Strongest Creature in World (Kaido) and tried to exclude human from "living creatures"
3- Strongest Swordsman in World (Mihawk) and they twist the title with different meanings
The ONLY PEOPLE who refuse to accept those titles are Shanks fans who refuse to put Shanks below those three characters.
I have seen people say "Zorotards" or "Sanjitards" or "Luffytards" are the most cancerous in community. But I'm afraid to say that "Shankstards" are the most delusional, contradictory, cancerous fans who claim Shit without even proof.
Hell, they gave Shanks the title of "Strongest Haki user" when Oda didn't even give that title to begin with! So, basically, they refuse the given facts given by Oda, and they create delusional titles tat doesn't even exist and they give it to Shanks hahaha.
Dude, IF Shanks gets killed off-screen by Blackbeard, or his first main fight was BB and he lost and got killed (which is a plausible theory that I disagree with, but still plausible) his fans would still claim he's strongest in verse without any evidence or basis or ANYTHING. Just pure headcanon
I wonder why you didn't post those pictures
I don't see where it says WB can be called World's greatest man
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This is idiotic
Did you even read Zoro novel? I didn't write the Zoro novel. Read what it says.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/index.php?threads/shanks-mihawk.182/
Reason no 3
But Zoro fanboys : ''but mihawk and shanks are rivals'' but ''but mihawk is stronger in haki''
About a year ago there was an article that said "Despite not having a DF, Shanks is powerful enough to fight an Admiral power easily!"
Shanks boys(including Erkan) spammed this everywhere in debates to say yonko>>admirals. Later it was revealed that Artur purposely mistranslated and the real one was "Shanks can fight an admiral power EQUALLY!"
How did Shanks/Yonko boys respond? "Lol only fanboys uses sources not from SBS or the manga!"
Shanks boys(including Erkan) spammed this everywhere in debates to say yonko>>admirals. Later it was revealed that Artur purposely mistranslated and the real one was "Shanks can fight an admiral power EQUALLY!"
How did Shanks/Yonko boys respond? "Lol only fanboys uses sources not from SBS or the manga!"
It ONLY matters when it serves their agenda of downplaying Mihawk, so that Shanks gets excluded from the picture of people falling under "swordsman" category.
Don't get the wrong idea. Anyone who promotes for Fuji beating Mihawk is not actually concerned about "Zoro vs Mihawk" being awkward after Zoro training under him. Rather, the hidden agenda from this thread is simply for Shanks sake but without implying it.
Cause both of Zoro and Mihawk have no problem in crossing swords again and go all out. So, why should we have a say? Mihawk was said by the vivre card that he's been waiting for someone who will "surpass" his rival "Shanks" to actually be able to challenge him. So, basically he's looking for someone who is higher to appear! Which should be "Zoro". He's basically like few characters in other series I mentioned "Netero from HunterxHunter, Aomine from KnB, Saitama from OPM" Mihawk is exactly the same in that he has been bored for a long ass time, and is waiting for someone who will allow him to use his FULL POWER and go all out. Otherwise, the amount of time he spent for training to be at that level will have no worth if there was no opponent to go all out on him.
So, from Mihawk's perspective, he's longing for the day Zoro reaches that level to allow Mihawk to have the fight of his dream where he doesn't know if he can win or lose. It's that adrenalin feeling that he's longing for!
Zoro on the other hand, he has his own ambition and after timeskip he didn't hide his feeling of surpassing Mihawk and beating him.
Only the fans are claiming that "Zoro vs Mihawk" is ruined or became awkward by Zoro training under Mihawk, when actually for both of those characters, they have not changed.
Don't get the wrong idea. Anyone who promotes for Fuji beating Mihawk is not actually concerned about "Zoro vs Mihawk" being awkward after Zoro training under him. Rather, the hidden agenda from this thread is simply for Shanks sake but without implying it.
Cause both of Zoro and Mihawk have no problem in crossing swords again and go all out. So, why should we have a say? Mihawk was said by the vivre card that he's been waiting for someone who will "surpass" his rival "Shanks" to actually be able to challenge him. So, basically he's looking for someone who is higher to appear! Which should be "Zoro". He's basically like few characters in other series I mentioned "Netero from HunterxHunter, Aomine from KnB, Saitama from OPM" Mihawk is exactly the same in that he has been bored for a long ass time, and is waiting for someone who will allow him to use his FULL POWER and go all out. Otherwise, the amount of time he spent for training to be at that level will have no worth if there was no opponent to go all out on him.
So, from Mihawk's perspective, he's longing for the day Zoro reaches that level to allow Mihawk to have the fight of his dream where he doesn't know if he can win or lose. It's that adrenalin feeling that he's longing for!
Zoro on the other hand, he has his own ambition and after timeskip he didn't hide his feeling of surpassing Mihawk and beating him.
Only the fans are claiming that "Zoro vs Mihawk" is ruined or became awkward by Zoro training under Mihawk, when actually for both of those characters, they have not changed.
Somehow you don't understand the simple fact that swordsmanship is just a fighting style, and a person can use multiple fighting styles at the same time.
It's idiotic like comparing strongest sniper to strongest man.
You can call it greatest sniper, but you can't call it greatest man.
Zoro novel has a secret agenda of downplaying mihawk confirmed
It's idiotic like comparing strongest sniper to strongest man.
You can call it greatest sniper, but you can't call it greatest man.
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Zoro novel has a secret agenda of downplaying mihawk confirmed
I looked up each word in the JPN dictionary and Wikitionary.
Broken "世界最強の" down into two components.
世界
最強
Ignoring "の" because it just means "no." Not the English word "no" as in "no @Plex, Doflamingo is NOT stronger than Katakuri." "No" as in "Gomu Gomu no."
Jisho
世界 = The World
最強 = Strongest
Wikitionary
世界 = The World
最強 = The Strongest
"世界" can mean other things like "universe" or "society." On the other hand, "最強" strictly means strongest. Wikitonary is the only place where you'll see "greatest," BUT it's specifically for "最." "強" still means "strong." No matter how you slice it, "最強" means the superlative form of "strongest."
Broken "世界最強の" down into two components.
世界
最強
Ignoring "の" because it just means "no." Not the English word "no" as in "no @Plex, Doflamingo is NOT stronger than Katakuri." "No" as in "Gomu Gomu no."
Jisho
世界 = The World
最強 = Strongest
Wikitionary
世界 = The World
最強 = The Strongest
"世界" can mean other things like "universe" or "society." On the other hand, "最強" strictly means strongest. Wikitonary is the only place where you'll see "greatest," BUT it's specifically for "最." "強" still means "strong." No matter how you slice it, "最強" means the superlative form of "strongest."
This explains the difference between wb's and mihawk's titles? Wtf
I don't see where it says WB can be called World's greatest man
This is idiotic
Did you even read Zoro novel? I didn't write the Zoro novel. Read what it says.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/index.php?threads/shanks-mihawk.182/
Reason no 3
But Zoro fanboys : ''but mihawk and shanks are rivals'' but ''but mihawk is stronger in haki''
I don't see where it says WB can be called World's greatest man
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This is idiotic
Did you even read Zoro novel? I didn't write the Zoro novel. Read what it says.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/index.php?threads/shanks-mihawk.182/
Reason no 3
But Zoro fanboys : ''but mihawk and shanks are rivals'' but ''but mihawk is stronger in haki''
Shit now i know your twitter handle, im tempted to go look through how many more dumb things you've said... But Nahhhh... the cringe vs comedy ratio isn't satisfactory enough
Nah, I will tell you a better one. But with Kaido haha.
1- Law: Kaido is said to be strongest creature in the world.
Shanksfans: Nah, it just means among animals.
2- Narrator: On land, sea and air, among all living things, in a 1 vs 1, always bet on Kaido
Shanksfans: Human are not living things, besides "people say" so it's not a fact.
3- Oda: I made Kaido so strong to a point I don't know how Luffy can beat him
Shanksfans: still, the same can be done with Shanks and other Yonko
4- Oda in interview replying to a question about someone asking about his own mother being so powerful where Oda basically included human in the title of Kaido by including Akainu among people below Kaido saying: A mother is not only stronger than Akainu, she's stronger than even strongest creature in the world, Kaido. Which basically implies in Oda's own mind, he does really mean it that Kaido stands at the top of strength between characters.
Shanksfans twisted it by saying: So, a mother is stronger than kaido, that means Big mom is stronger than Kaido, Kaido's title is a fluke
I feel no matter what Oda says, and the amount of time he constantly said time and time and time and time again that kaido is strongest overall, and Mihawk is strongest swordsman. No matter what happens, People will NOT agree. And even after Oda shows it in panels and in manga PROOVING IT. People will still either doubt it, or will come out with threads complaining about Oda saying he lost his mind making Shanks weaker than this and that. When it reality, he was saying it from beginning and instead of taking his words as facts, they simply twisted the interpretations to suit their taste, until a point they believed that the twisted meaning is the right meaning.
1- Law: Kaido is said to be strongest creature in the world.
Shanksfans: Nah, it just means among animals.
2- Narrator: On land, sea and air, among all living things, in a 1 vs 1, always bet on Kaido
Shanksfans: Human are not living things, besides "people say" so it's not a fact.
3- Oda: I made Kaido so strong to a point I don't know how Luffy can beat him
Shanksfans: still, the same can be done with Shanks and other Yonko
4- Oda in interview replying to a question about someone asking about his own mother being so powerful where Oda basically included human in the title of Kaido by including Akainu among people below Kaido saying: A mother is not only stronger than Akainu, she's stronger than even strongest creature in the world, Kaido. Which basically implies in Oda's own mind, he does really mean it that Kaido stands at the top of strength between characters.
Shanksfans twisted it by saying: So, a mother is stronger than kaido, that means Big mom is stronger than Kaido, Kaido's title is a fluke
I feel no matter what Oda says, and the amount of time he constantly said time and time and time and time again that kaido is strongest overall, and Mihawk is strongest swordsman. No matter what happens, People will NOT agree. And even after Oda shows it in panels and in manga PROOVING IT. People will still either doubt it, or will come out with threads complaining about Oda saying he lost his mind making Shanks weaker than this and that. When it reality, he was saying it from beginning and instead of taking his words as facts, they simply twisted the interpretations to suit their taste, until a point they believed that the twisted meaning is the right meaning.
Though @Monkey D Theories means no harm when he says someone could kill Mihawk before he faces Zoro(I mean one of the longest running theories is Shiryu doing it) and hey, Oda could make BB become PK before Luffy does it, but the main issue is how some of these idiots can't make up their mind on what makes a swordsman. Their standards and technicalities are ever-changing.
Ah the classic Kaido one. How could I forget lol
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Ah the classic Kaido one. How could I forget lol
That might be true for @Erkan12 or some of those other people but don't go attributing some underhand motive to me.
I think that Fujitora could beat Mihawk because Fujitora plays a bigger role as an antagonist than Mihawk, given that Fuji works for the WG.
Mihawk is more or less a neutral character who doesn't care for conflict. While Zoro would have to beat Mihawk to achieve his dream, there are no other motives that would make this fight happen.
that's literally my entire argument
I think that Fujitora could beat Mihawk because Fujitora plays a bigger role as an antagonist than Mihawk, given that Fuji works for the WG.
Mihawk is more or less a neutral character who doesn't care for conflict. While Zoro would have to beat Mihawk to achieve his dream, there are no other motives that would make this fight happen.
that's literally my entire argument
WHHHHHHAT??? Bu bu bu BUT that's not true.
You think you got them with this???
Well, since "世界" can mean other things like "universe" or "society". They will choose to believe that it only means "society".
So, basically Mihawk is NOT "Strongest swordsman in the world". He is "Strongest swordsman in one society" there are still other societies with stronger swordsmen LOL
That's the next counter they will use. I curse the day languages made syllabus words hahahaha.
You think you got them with this???
Well, since "世界" can mean other things like "universe" or "society". They will choose to believe that it only means "society".
So, basically Mihawk is NOT "Strongest swordsman in the world". He is "Strongest swordsman in one society" there are still other societies with stronger swordsmen LOL
That's the next counter they will use. I curse the day languages made syllabus words hahahaha.
While I think there are some rational points for why Shanks could be above mihawk, they ultimately aren't compelling enough. I think until proven otherwise Mihawk>Shanks.
And yes, I know this is probably heresy in the eyes of some but, if Fujitora beats Mihawk, I'd believe that Fujitora>Shanks as well
And yes, I know this is probably heresy in the eyes of some but, if Fujitora beats Mihawk, I'd believe that Fujitora>Shanks as well