Le Fishe Thread Doesn’t this interview make Zoro and Admiral fans question whether you got it all wrong?

#21
This interview right here is very revealing as to the motives and intentions Oda has for his One Piece storyline


Have a gander folks. Oda says he was originally approaching One Piece with the intended goal to make this story about overcoming the strongest pirates , the “Yonkou”. This is the overarching narrative that defined One Piece from the start, which means he is most likely staying true to the original concept, adding certain concepts and content here and there but continue with his original inspiration.

If you are a Zoro fan and don’t like the way Mihawk has been portrayed, and you just can’t seem to make heads and tails about it, you have your answer right here. He is not close to being a MC.

Why? Oda literally says he came up with the Schichibukais later as an afterthought. The warlords are just an add-on to the overarching storyline of Luffy vs Great Pirates, just to add some sense of “coolness” (Oda’s words).

It’s the same way with admirals fans, if you are arguing for Admiral supremacy, even if you convince yourself with “logic” that they are superior to yonkos, don’t you feel you are just shooting yourself in the foot and setting yourself up for failure when you are going against the storyline that Oda started with.

What are your thoughts? Is this too much Black Pill at once, or can you handle that you’ve been living in a haze all this time as to what you think Oda’s motives have been about his own story? A story about the strongest pirates at the end of the day, but you insisted on trying to sneak in Zoro, Mihawk or admirals in there where there really was no vacant place for them to begin with.

I say this because I don’t want people to go down a path that’s doomed to fail and be of no use.:myman:
Oda started this way, but now the WG is the single biggest obstacle to world peace.
I’d like to hear a counter argument
:pepecafe:
 
#23
Cant find the interview or material where it says that Crocodile was aiming for the PK-title in his early heydays
So you forgot about this huh

@ConquistadoR See? They didn't even read One Piece. Its full Agenda :gokulaugh:
just like that youtuber JaytheLegend, he didn't care about the story, he knows exactly the story is, but he didn't care, he only cares about the agenda:suresure:
 
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#24
Mihawk is placed in a category that is secondary to Oda so as to designate his place in the story

He even says Luffy’s end goal is superior to Zoro’s

There are levels to this shit man


Elite but not yonko level

Mihawk should’ve been part of the end goal group, instead he is part of the afterthought association and hypes Luffy’s goal first time they meet in Baratie
:suresure:That's why Mihawk fans are always salty

Mihawk and the rest of warlords will forever be 3rd tier pirates
They were never meant to be silver medalist like Yonko nor Gold medalist like Roger
 
#27
Having a bounty superior to half of the current Yonko.
Having a bounty that's above Yonko Teach's former one.
Owning and creating one of the two confirmed black blades in existence.
Having one of the 3 world strongest titles.
Being the WSS in a world where characters like Shanks, Issho, Rayleigh, Shiryu, Zoro, etc are all swordsman.
Being the end goal of a guy who crushed a YC1 after getting a power up.
Hell, Doffy was surprised when Mihawk actually attacked Whitebeard.
Law said that anyone commanding Crocodile and Mihawk would be worthy of being a Yonko.
Just the entirety of 1058 lol

Bro these baits are weak, at least go with Weevil> Mihawk instead of this old ass 2015 troll take:milaugh:
So Mihawk instead of going for yonkos became a serial killer of marines

That’s what hypes his bounty.

Remember Caribou and his brother Coribou?

They got inflated bounties even though they aren’t labelled as active “Marine hunters” like Mihawk


Coribou has a 190 million berry bounty fruit and he doesn’t have a logia, literally his weapon is a shovel

Why do you think Coribou has almost the same bounty as Caribou who is a logia?

Because Coribou is the symbol of the operation with his literal shovel as a weapon. He is the one carrying out the burying alive of marines

Both their bounties are massively inflated regardless. Coribou is not nearly as strong as (frozen) 81 million berry Crocodile , and Coribou 190 million beeey lmao

Their bounties are inflated manifolds

Mihawk’s bounty likewise inflated manifolds. Hence why marines view him as inferior to Buggy just because they saw a poster lmao


Hell, Doffy was surprised when Mihawk actually attacked Whitebeard.
Probably you exaggerating. Doffy can also cut ice. He cut the leg of Oars, and his Overheat is a several kilometres long attack, spanning from Greenbit to Dressrosa

Mihawk doesn’t separate himself from Doflamingo by way of feats

Doflamingo wet himself at the idea of angering Kaido


Just the entirety of 1058 lol
Remind me, is that another chapter where he is a subordinate to Buggy?
 
#28
Having a bounty superior to half of the current Yonko.
Having a bounty that's above Yonko Teach's former one.
Owning and creating one of the two confirmed black blades in existence.
Having one of the 3 world strongest titles.
Being the WSS in a world where characters like Shanks, Issho, Rayleigh, Shiryu, Zoro, etc are all swordsman.
Being the end goal of a guy who crushed a YC1 after getting a power up.
Hell, Doffy was surprised when Mihawk actually attacked Whitebeard.
Law said that anyone commanding Crocodile and Mihawk would be worthy of being a Yonko.
Just the entirety of 1058 lol

Bro these baits are weak, at least go with Weevil> Mihawk instead of this old ass 2015 troll take:milaugh:
All of that yet Doffy is the one caller Most dangerous warlord
Doffy is the one who's a bigger player in Pirate world as underworld King
Doffy the one with CoC other than Hancock

Anyway,
Mihawk is just an afterthought like the rest of warlords
 
#29
Yeah, the Worst Generation was a last minute addition, how many of you wank them to the moon like they're tye next generations superstars or something? It doesn't matter what the initial plans are; it's what's implemented in the story that matters.
Say didn’t Editors pressure Oda into making them?

that’s why I never bought into their hype and always said they’re less important than people think
Oda started this way, but now the WG is the single biggest obstacle to world peace.
I’d like to hear a counter argument
:pepecafe:
Probably the WGs undoing is gonna be the One Piece , and that’s a race between pirates 🏴‍☠

Imu will become relevant then. Admirals are just dogs of Celestial Dragons , never hyped by Roger
 
#31
Roger hyped Sengoku
Admirals hyped by Chinjao on Roger's behalf
Roger already found One Piece, WG still strong. Actual two piece enjoyer
:shame:
Sengoku is a legendary marine with coc

Be real man. Akainu who got two-shotted by accident by WB is not.

There is no equivalent to Sengoku in this generation of marines

In the same way this generation of boxers we got today are inferiors to the ones before
 

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#32
Say didn’t Editors pressure Oda into making them?

that’s why I never bought into their hype and always said they’re less important than people think
It doesn't matter how they appeared in the story, the fact remains they're a part of it now, and they influence the story in their own way regardless of how important or unimportant they are. A literal Yonko, who was supposed to be one of the main antagonists, was used as an opponent for the last-minute-editions that the Worst Generation are. That goes to show how these decisions influence the story. Regardless of what the original ideas are, the story is no longer about just fighting the Yonko, so writing essays hoping Oda's original ideas that obviously didn't make it to the story will make any difference makes you nothing short of delusional.
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Doffy the one with CoC other than Hancock
:milaugh: I hope you won't chicken out and say I always knew Mihawk has CoC when he's revealed to have it.
 
#33
I hope you won't chicken out and say I always knew Mihawk has CoC when he's revealed to have it.
He will only have fanservice CoC not real CoC like Big Job
:goyea:
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Sengoku is a legendary marine with coc

Be real man. Akainu who got two-shotted by accident by WB is not.

There is no equivalent to Sengoku in this generation of marines

In the same way this generation of boxers we got today are inferiors to the ones before
:saden:
 
#34
so writing essays hoping Oda's original ideas that obviously didn't make it to the story will make any difference makes you nothing short of delusional
Oda will always be partial to his “own” important characters, circumstances and contexts considered

Oda has a ceiling for the Supernovas

Kid got one-shotted, Law who he gifted with special hax powers didn’t fare so much better against BB, and let’s not pretend Law didn’t get the shaft from Doffy
 

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#35
I think Oda would rather expand on characters that he came up with originally

Oda has a ceiling for the Supernovas

Kid got one-shotted, Law who he gifted with special hax powers didn’t fare so much better against BB, and let’s not pretend he didn’t get the shaft from Doffy

Oda will always be partial to his “own” important characters given the circumstance
Every character has a ceiling. Im, who's a last-minutes-addition among the last minute additions, seemed to have a higher ceiling than even the PK candidates. And let's not pretend these after thoughts didn't play an active role in putting an end to one of the so-called original villains lmao.

At this point, you should just stop being salty about how strong Mihawk turned out to be and move on with life.
 
#36
Regardless of what the original ideas are, the story is no longer about just fighting the Yonko, so writing essays hoping Oda's original ideas that obviously didn't make it to the story will make any difference makes you nothing short of delusional
While he is wrong about Mihawk, he has a point about the story being Luffy fighting yonkos. Oda did say the ending of his original idea didn't change.
 

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#40
You mean Mihawk that’s assumed to be weaker than Buggy by marines as judged by a poster lol, and given actual parity with Crocodile?

hello? :risitameh:
Where was it said Mihawk's weaker than Buggy? Gimme the quote.
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So who takes out Im before BB? Dragon? Sabo? Good luck with that.
 
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