Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1088 Spoilers Discussion

[LayerZ]

Reminder that "Garp the Hero" has the same bounty than Kid

He also got the same bounty than luffy .

 

[Marine Piece]

Finally accepted the sanji agenda?

:cheers:

 

[JoNdule]

Katakuri ambition is being the protector of his family as perfect undefeated big brother
The protector leads!
Coby ambition of being an admiral to end piracy is kingly ambition.

WB wanted a family to lead and protect, Kingly ambition

You should stop thinking "crying = weak willed, no CoC"

It's all about the ambition/goal and how far you wanna go for it
WB , katakuri would do anything for their families
Coby would do anything for his dream
Etc...

 

[MarineHQ]

I accept my L. I had prime garp above Kaido but Kaido showed better feats. He is above prime garp for now

You can't measure up Old Garp's tanking abilities to Prime Kaido. You can't even do that for Prime Garp, he is a normal human with limits. That said, a couple of full power Prime Garp punches greatly surpass the combined damage output of most characters that attacked Kaido like Scabbards, Yamato, R5.

 

[Konstantis]

I need to see Koby's attack before I will start to hype it. It could be that Coby with bare hand dealed greater damage then Zoro in DR, but we will see

 

[HellBlazer04]

I think the Old gen supremacy mainly applies too WB and Roger if at all. Rayleigh,Garp, Sengoku, Shiki, Oden there are people in the current gen equal to these or even stronger.

We're in the climax era of the OP world, it makes no sense for no Luffy oponnent to not reach that level at least or surpass that.

I definitely think the admirals are above the old trio. The restof guys below would not be able to defeat these old guys yet.

 

[Marine Piece]

Katakuri ambition is being the protector of his family as perfect undefeated big brother
The protector leads!
Coby ambition of being an admiral to end piracy is kingly ambition.

WB wanted a family to lead and protect, Kingly ambition

You should stop thinking "crying = weak willed, no CoC"

It's all about the ambition/goal and how far you wanna go for it
WB , katakuri would do anything for their families
Coby would do anything for his dream
Etc...

Katakuri would do anything to protect his family except going against his children eating mother

 

[MarineHQ]

Katakuri ambition is being the protector of his family as perfect undefeated big brother
The protector leads!

This was shown to be a farce. Katakuri behind closed doors was never what his family thought he was.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Katakuri ambition is being the protector of his family as perfect undefeated big brother
The protector leads!
Coby ambition of being an admiral to end piracy is kingly ambition.

WB wanted a family to lead and protect, Kingly ambition

You should stop thinking "crying = weak willed, no CoC"

It's all about the ambition/goal and how far you wanna go for it
WB , katakuri would do anything for their families
Coby would do anything for his dream
Etc...

Would do anything except try to stop big mom lmao

 

[LayerZ]

And ? Aokiji at that time was just an apprentice , mf never got to know what Haki is ; His fighting style was built at that time to be a brawler type like Garp and then he got his DF to reinforce his already fighting style ; u all trynna to show like Aokiji being a brawler is just a secondary thing while it is what he learnt first and foremost when he was just an amateur this is like saying Zoro training in Dojo with his sensei and learning Swordmanship and after wards he gets Kaido's DF and he stops being a swordman since you know that Dragon Fruit isn't even something related to Swordmanship , each Admiral got a clear fighting style that he reinforces its power with his newly DF same thing is for Fujitora was a monster swordman before even getting his DF and funnily enough when he got it he reinforced his swordmanship and same for Law , kizaru etc etc .

Tf u mean going all out ? it's a group fighting against a single one and from time to time he gets sneaked ( shiryu ) .

in Clear exchanges 1v1 , aokiji never got a single clear W ; let's see :

1/ He used ice time and the ice broke and he got blitzed and sent down a hole with blue hole .


2/ Off screen fight where no one could see aokiji and having Garp taking care of other teach pirates with other fodder , and funnily enough fodders stated how even with Aokiji around they found him to be a great Wall , read this :


3/ the only time , Aokiji achieved a stalemate was against a Weakened Garp ( mentioned two times by fodders ) who used CoA and both went down .

Even someone on ur side @LANJI CUCKSMOKE can already see that , it's time to accept obvious .

weaken garp dont mean he punches weaker he just was hurt so more vulnerable to being jumped but his attack power was still the same . Being stabbbed never affected the attack power in one piece . Hell straw hats get the W when they are messed up especially zoro Kid and law were busted up when they got BM.
Attack power is not affected by stuff like that .

 

[Marine Piece]

If katakuri was really that guy, he would have been the one to take meme down in wano, it is what it is

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Nah

Roger ~ Xebec >= WB >~ Kaido
These are the top 4 with also highest bounties and WS or King titles

Make sense, so far Kaido feats remaining as top of the top. Let see how other characters playing out. Maybe Shanks and Teach can surpass Kaido one, but can they also surpass Roger/WB one is the question.

 

[HellBlazer04]

Katakuri ambition is being the protector of his family as perfect undefeated big brother
The protector leads!
Coby ambition of being an admiral to end piracy is kingly ambition.

WB wanted a family to lead and protect, Kingly ambition

You should stop thinking "crying = weak willed, no CoC"

It's all about the ambition/goal and how far you wanna go for it
WB , katakuri would do anything for their families
Coby would do anything for his dream
Etc...

How's that going for katakuri right now?
Half his family is missing, his mother and older brother are dead, sister is kidnapped by another yonko, another brother got negged, couldn't contain his prisoners and last but not least he is himself hurting his brother.
Oh forgot to add, he didn't do shit when his mother abused his other siblings

Some protector he is

 

[MonsterKaido]

You can't measure up Old Garp's tanking abilities to Prime Kaido. You can't even do that for Prime Garp, he is a normal human with limits. That said, a couple of full power Prime Garp punches greatly surpass the combined damage output of most characters that attacked Kaido like Scabbards, Yamato, R5.

You also have Luffy's attacks plus KKG with adv coc. Also Kaido was holding the island Which decreased his stamina.

Full serious Kaido will also land roaring thunder bagua and more attacks. There is so much Garp can take.

 

[LayerZ]

I need to see Koby's attack before I will start to hype it. It could be that Coby with bare hand dealed greater damage then Zoro in DR, but we will see

That would be dope since swords always do more damage then punches .

 

[[No Name]]

More spoilers When?

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Interesting to know that this scenario is becoming more and more accepted in the fandom.

@Luffy is the mc Still think Luffy's crew will be anything special like Luffy's peers?

Yes, no reason to think otherwise, especially not because of Koby

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

You can't measure up Old Garp's tanking abilities to Prime Kaido. You can't even do that for Prime Garp, he is a normal human with limits. That said, a couple of full power Prime Garp punches greatly surpass the combined damage output of most characters that attacked Kaido like Scabbards, Yamato, R5.

Also technically Garp wasn't KO but frozen. Kuzan can bypass durability

 

[MarineHQ]

And ? Aokiji at that time was just an apprentice , mf never got to know what Haki is ; His fighting style was built at that time to be a brawler type like Garp and then he got his DF to reinforce his already fighting style ; u all trynna to show like Aokiji being a brawler is just a secondary thing while it is what he learnt first and foremost when he was just an amateur this is like saying Zoro training in Dojo with his sensei and learning Swordmanship and after wards he gets Kaido's DF and he stops being a swordman since you know that Dragon Fruit isn't even something related to Swordmanship , each Admiral got a clear fighting style that he reinforces its power with his newly DF same thing is for Fujitora was a monster swordman before even getting his DF and funnily enough when he got it he reinforced his swordmanship and same for Law , kizaru etc etc .

Point being, the FB established that Kuzan reached prime Garp's physical strength. That was what everyone believed the main difference between the C3 and Garp, that Garp is a powerhouse but with one short FB Oda took away that advantage of Garp while proceeding to show how Kuzan equals Garp in a punching contest.

Tf u mean going all out ? it's a group fighting against a single one and from time to time he gets sneaked ( shiryu ) .

The group he's fighting against was off-screen nagged twice by Kuzan. Does that make Garp really look better? If anything it further reinforces why Kuzan > Garp is a legit thing.

Clear exchanges 1v1 , aokiji never got a single clear W ; let's see :

1/ He used ice time and the ice broke and he got blitzed and sent down a hole with blue hole .


2/ Off screen fight where no one could see aokiji and having Garp taking care of other teach pirates with other fodder , and funnily enough fodders stated how even with Aokiji around they found him to be a great Wall , read this :

Yes. Kuzan who restricted himself from using the same AoE and lethality of his Ice as in Punk Hazard managed to go 1v1 in a boxing match with Old healthy Garp just before Shiryu jumped in. Again, you're not helping Garp here.
It was his style, he was supposed to dominate Kuzan.

Oda doing his usual saving face shenanigans can't change that. Letting Shiryu stab Garp. Having him surrounded minutes before his defeat to uphold the illusion that he looked better than he actually did. We're not falling for this trick again.

In a 1v1 Kuzan would wear down Garp to this point and use his Ice just like in the chapter to end the fight because his stamina is superior.

 

[comrade]

Katakuri was a subordinate with no ambition to lead either.

Being a subordinate doesn't disqualify you, especially when you are beneath a bigger conqueror. Katakuri in his own sense was a leader to his family too, everyone looked up to him and respected him, he was the MVP during the WCI incident. As a child he also displayed a rebellious and courageous nature.

ou guys created your own thinking "crybabies can't be CoC users"

I guess Luffy sucks since he was crying hard when Ace died and lost his crew

You really aren't able to grasp what I'm trying to say Doodle. I never said conquerors aren't allowed to cry or show emotion, that's bullshit. But there is a difference between crying because you lost a loved one or, at basically the same age (16) licking a fat east blue fodder pirate's boots and crying at the thought of being exposed to violence and hence preferring a slave life. Just stop making it sound like these are the same things.