Future Events Who Will Defeat King?

[sanjikun]

Marco is just muscle and air power against BM and Kaido numbers. (numbers not Numbers). In MF, he never had a proper 1 v. 1.

People keep thinking in terms of 1 v. 1 matchups, when alliance is SEVERELY undermanned. Remember, the plan is a sneak attack, not all out war. Since the sneak attack will fail, we need to take care of 500 SMILE users, and tens of thousands of fighters.

 

[bennbeckman]

King is a swordsman, and will fight ZORO

Also I think Marco will play a supporting role against the Beast pirates

The 2nd option im guessing is he will help Luffy defeat kaido

 

[Kejon]

I don't know. It could be Marco or Zoro.

I guess Zoro makes a bit more sense, because King also uses a sword and normally Zoro fights against the 2nd strongest and Sanji vs. the 3rd strongest. We just have to wait a little longer and see how things will develop. For now I'd say Zoro though.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Spoiler

Its basically confirmed that Zoro's target is kaido. If given the choice between fighting King and letting marco take king so that he can reach kaido, its pretty clear what his choice would be.

 

[silverfire]

I’ve been subscribing to the Momotaro theory for years, and still do. After such a long time passed without Marco making an appearance, I forgot about it, but now that he’s back, I’m reminded of how on the mark it seems. Even if Oda doesn’t follow it exactly, the element of Marco assisting in some way even if only to heal seems likely.

The biggest problem with it is that Luffy wouldn’t win in even close to a 1v1, and there’s some foreshadowing behind Zoro assisting that’d get thrown out. Momo + Luffy would feel a lot more satisfying. Momo helps Luffy fight in the sky while Luffy still gets the full glory of taking down Kaido. Marco is so strong in his own right, that it would cheapen things. The theory still seems strong.

Marco vs king would be very unsatisfying. I don’t think there’s any compelling evidence that they’re not equals. Marco winning wouldn’t be interesting, king winning would be unlikely. Neither of them would biting off more than they could chew.

 

[sanjikun]

I’ve been subscribing to the Momotaro theory for years, and still do. After such a long time passed without Marco making an appearance, I forgot about it, but now that he’s back, I’m reminded of how on the mark it seems. Even if Oda doesn’t follow it exactly, the element of Marco assisting in some way even if only to heal seems likely.

The biggest problem with it is that Luffy wouldn’t win in even close to a 1v1, and there’s some foreshadowing behind Zoro assisting that’d get thrown out. Momo + Luffy would feel a lot more satisfying. Momo helps Luffy fight in the sky while Luffy still gets the full glory of taking down Kaido. Marco is so strong in his own right, that it would cheapen things. The theory still seems strong.

Marco vs king would be very unsatisfying. I don’t think there’s any compelling evidence that they’re not equals. Marco winning wouldn’t be interesting, king winning would be unlikely. Neither of them would biting off more than they could chew.

Fantastic, except Marco is not a pheasant (kiji), so that theory makes absolutely no sense. And why would Inuarashi help, but not Nekomumashi when they're practically inseparable?

Oda already referenced Momotaro with Admirals: AkaINU, AoKIJI, KiZARU.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

I'm just gonna keep flip flopping lol.

Zoro vs. King just sounds better on paper. But I'd rather Kid fight Queen. It seems the battle is just better set up for them to fight. Hell, I'd rather Killer take on Who's Who then. Both Kid and Killer can show Queen and Who's Who the power of friendship lmao (I'm serious).

This would kill Sanji fans though, unless he's poised to fight Perospero or Snack or something high level. Sasaki could be good too, or X Drake. Idk

In all fairness the current situation( where are characters on plot) doesn't give Sanji good chances to face a calamity( I feel that only those 4 ahead + law have chances).

Oda can change it obviously but so far is grim the situation for Sanji fans when it comes to face Queen.

 

[sanjikun]

Oda can change it obviously but so far is grim the situation for Sanji fans when it comes to face Queen.

No, it isn't. He beat the shit out of Page One, who Queen sent. Sasaki and Ulti were making fun of him. And Queen is talking about removing one of the Tobi Roppo, meaning he is tightly tied to the Tobi Roppo.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

No, it isn't. He beat the shit out of Page One, who Queen sent. Sasaki and Ulti were making fun of him. And Queen is talking about removing one of the Tobi Roppo, meaning he is tightly tied to the Tobi Roppo.

They making fun of him could be cuz age...just look at his behavior with Ulti.


And again I don't gonna enter into the endless debate of where is the panel of P1 being k.o .

 

[Lunaria]

Spoiler

Its basically confirmed that Zoro's target is kaido. If given the choice between fighting King and letting marco take king so that he can reach kaido, its pretty clear what his choice would be.

Which choice do you consider the obvious one ? Because the way I see it, choosing to face the swordsman of the crew in order to go a step further towards his dream and letting the stronger ally face Kaido is the logical choice. His current target might be Kaido but he’s not even aware of King’s existence. His original targets in Skypiea and Dressrosa were Enel and Doflamingo but they weren’t his main opponents.

 

[Exodia.]

I don't know. It could be Marco or Zoro.

I guess Zoro makes a bit more sense, because King also uses a sword and normally Zoro fights against the 2nd strongest and Sanji vs. the 3rd strongest. We just have to wait a little longer and see how things will develop. For now I'd say Zoro though.

bigmom is the 2nd strongest tho

 

[The Dark Flame]

Lol what would the reaction be if Sanji fights King instead of Zoro or Marco? They both use fire, can fly, are perverts according to Queen, wear skin tight suits (raid suit), etc. This is similar to the Marco comparison as well.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Which choice do you consider the obvious one ? Because the way I see it, choosing to face the swordsman of the crew in order to go a step further towards his dream and letting the stronger ally face Kaido is the logical choice. His current target might be Kaido but he’s not even aware of King’s existence. His original targets in Skypiea and Dressrosa were Enel and Doflamingo but they weren’t his main opponents.

I don't know what is so special about King that Zoro would rather fight him over Kaido. Zoro surely knows that there are powerful beast pirates, but from what we saw, he doesn't seem to care about them.

in any case, Marco has a lot of ties to King and Zoro has a lot of ties to Kaido, so this honestly seems really straightforward

 

[Chaves]

And since when Marco became more important than Zoro in history?

Wano is the typical classic shonen bow, in which mugiwaras save a country from an enemy organization (just as they defeated the pirates of Arlong, baroque works and trained assassins of cp9)

Kaido / calamities / tobbi roppo, they will all be defeated by the mugiwaras and no one else. The mugiwaras will be the saviors of wano and will legitimize themselves as a yonkou crew. That is why Oda said that as soon as wano is over, readers will feel that one piece is at an end, precisely because the mugiwaras are already overcoming a yonkou enemy. And this is where Shanks and Luffy will meet

 

[Finalbeta]

Lol what would the reaction be if Sanji fights King instead of Zoro or Marco? They both use fire, can fly, are perverts according to Queen, wear skin tight suits (raid suit), etc. This is similar to the Marco comparison as well.

Well there are some problems:

- King's level of haki obliterates Sanji's
- Sanji's flight and King's flight are on whole different planets
- Same goes with durability and DC

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Kaido / calamities / tobbi roppo, they will all be defeated by the mugiwaras and no one else.

then what's the point of the alliance

 

[HA001]

I don't know what is so special about King that Zoro would rather fight him over Kaido. Zoro surely knows that there are powerful beast pirates, but from what we saw, he doesn't seem to care about them.

in any case, Marco has a lot of ties to King and Zoro has a lot of ties to Kaido, so this honestly seems really straightforward

Wait. Didnt you use to say it didnt make sense to you that zoro would fight king from a power level perspective yet now youre saying hes fighting kaido whose > king. Why the change ?

 

[Chaves]

then what's the point of the alliance

Facing Orochi's subordinates and pleasure, gifters and headliners lol. It is very clear that the mugiwaras will defeat the main enemies.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Wait. Didnt you use to say it didnt make sense to you that zoro would fight king from a power level perspective yet now youre saying hes fighting kaido whose > king. Why the change ?

the most recent chapter cemented the idea that the SHs probably won't fight the calamities. Oda has already built up fights for each of the calamities

Inu and Neko vs Jack
Drake and tobi roppo vs Queen
Marco vs King

each of these fights have much more build up than calamities vs m3. If Zoro isn't going to fight any of the calamities, then it only makes sense that his main role is helping Luffy beat kaido.

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Facing Orochi's subordinates and pleasure, gifters and headliners lol. It is very clear that the mugiwaras will defeat the main enemies.

they brought in marco and the whitebeard pirates just to defeat fodder?

 

[HA001]

the most recent chapter cemented the idea that the SHs probably won't fight the calamities. Oda has already built up fights for each of the calamities

Inu and Neko vs Jack
Drake and tobi roppo vs Queen
Marco vs King

each of these fights have much more build up than calamities vs m3. If Zoro isn't going to fight any of the calamities, then it only makes sense that his main role is helping Luffy beat kaido.

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they brought in marco and the whitebeard pirates just to defeat fodder?

Fair enough