Future Events Elbaf Plot Points. What Will Happen?
- Thread starter Phoenix D. King
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Ehh Id argue that that doesnt necessarily matter. He's dedicating what might be another year at Egghead for one Admiral out of several, followed by who knows what at Elbaf. Evidently the final saga is just going to be way bigger than expected anyhow.
The Burned Man might be a new character whos not even an enemy, thereby removing any sense of needing yet another antagonist in the story.
The Burned Man might be a new character whos not even an enemy, thereby removing any sense of needing yet another antagonist in the story.
But even Egghead is being used to close major plot lines by using minor ones.
The burned man I feel should be used the same way so creating some new characters that are disconnected from the current ones would just extend the story further than it already is.
I feel like the burned man will be a final lore dump character. Not some fighter or major plot line but a character to give lore and set up the next major moment for the straw hats, the war with the BB pirates.
The burned man I feel should be used the same way so creating some new characters that are disconnected from the current ones would just extend the story further than it already is.
I feel like the burned man will be a final lore dump character. Not some fighter or major plot line but a character to give lore and set up the next major moment for the straw hats, the war with the BB pirates.
Sure, their purpose is fine in that capacity, but even to that end it could just be a new character. The burned man is likely central to just closing out major Yonko or Marine related plotlines (whoever gets the 4th RP can go to LT, and with the Marines it is probably imperative that they prevent this). If everyone is after them,then they are a character evidently ties to closing out major plotlines in the story
If shanks turn out to be evil (very slim possibility) then I definitely see SHs vs RHP as serious fight.
However, to me, real scenario goes like this
Shanks will definitely meet Luffy. It has been set in stone.
Shanks might even clash with Luffy - to test him.
But I don't see RHP vs SHs as serious fights as of now because there hasn't been any animosity or build up for these crews to fight+ them having friendly relations. Shanks even went to wano just to intercept Blackbeard and pushed GB to back away
So, I see a small clash between them.
Then I see Blackbeard popping up and Shanks saying luffy to leave BB to him and he should continue on his path to get to laugh tale.
Shanks vs BB...
BB wins and he then fight Luffy.
However, to me, real scenario goes like this
Shanks will definitely meet Luffy. It has been set in stone.
Shanks might even clash with Luffy - to test him.
But I don't see RHP vs SHs as serious fights as of now because there hasn't been any animosity or build up for these crews to fight+ them having friendly relations. Shanks even went to wano just to intercept Blackbeard and pushed GB to back away
So, I see a small clash between them.
Then I see Blackbeard popping up and Shanks saying luffy to leave BB to him and he should continue on his path to get to laugh tale.
Shanks vs BB...
BB wins and he then fight Luffy.
And with your idea of it leading to a five prong war I see where you’re coming from, I just don’t agree with the possibility of this war.
To me this burned man will be related to the overarching theme of the rest of one piece, Luffy and the Will of D. I think that’s going to be a major theme in all of Luffys fights from this point on just like haki and devil fruits were a major theme of his other fights since the timeskip. As such the burned man being a previously established D who has access to the meaning of the Will of D is where I think odas going to go with this.
To me this burned man will be related to the overarching theme of the rest of one piece, Luffy and the Will of D. I think that’s going to be a major theme in all of Luffys fights from this point on just like haki and devil fruits were a major theme of his other fights since the timeskip. As such the burned man being a previously established D who has access to the meaning of the Will of D is where I think odas going to go with this.
this doesn't even answer what I actually asked.
I asked what Kingly ambitions do Sanji and Nami have?
In no world are you having 5 members on a 10 man crew all capable of having Conquerors which is stated to be rare even among the top and all those that we've seen it all have actual ambitions and are monsters in their own right:
Post timeskip we've been introduced to what a total of 10 new Haoshoku users 1-3 in each arc where the one that is on the crew took the longest running arc and his homeland to awaken.
Hancok. Chinjao, Joker both King/Queen of a ruling country - Warlords
Shanks, Kaido, BM Yonkos - rulers of the seas
Rayleigh/Zoro: Right Hand man of the freeset pirates
Yamato, Katakuri, Luffy: Genetics - ambitions
Garp/Sengoku: Old Man Rivals of the PK
Kidd I have no idea Luffy's rival?
no we are not going backwards here.
I asked what Kingly ambitions do Sanji and Nami have?
In no world are you having 5 members on a 10 man crew all capable of having Conquerors which is stated to be rare even among the top and all those that we've seen it all have actual ambitions and are monsters in their own right:
Post timeskip we've been introduced to what a total of 10 new Haoshoku users 1-3 in each arc where the one that is on the crew took the longest running arc and his homeland to awaken.
Hancok. Chinjao, Joker both King/Queen of a ruling country - Warlords
Shanks, Kaido, BM Yonkos - rulers of the seas
Rayleigh/Zoro: Right Hand man of the freeset pirates
Yamato, Katakuri, Luffy: Genetics - ambitions
Garp/Sengoku: Old Man Rivals of the PK
Kidd I have no idea Luffy's rival?
no we are not going backwards here.
Rox was not the greatest pirate crew in history was it possibly the strongest yet but it was nowhere near the greatest.
was it equivalent to a more truer pirate crew that we know yes. Greatest, no.
In this world it’s all about teamwork and trusting one another to reach the end. They had none of that outside of strength. It seems the only two who were friends in that crew were Kaido and BM.
was it equivalent to a more truer pirate crew that we know yes. Greatest, no.
In this world it’s all about teamwork and trusting one another to reach the end. They had none of that outside of strength. It seems the only two who were friends in that crew were Kaido and BM.
Well the point was that your question was not relevant. You started by asking about their ambition and then you moved the goal post to motivation.
People act like the phrase “kingly ambition” provides some clear conditions on who gets conquerors and not just bullshit that Oda gave us. Like half the conquerors that we have don’t really have a clear connection between other than Oda wanted them to have it
People act like the phrase “kingly ambition” provides some clear conditions on who gets conquerors and not just bullshit that Oda gave us. Like half the conquerors that we have don’t really have a clear connection between other than Oda wanted them to have it
Is the Roger pirates the strongest in history?
Roger himself was known as the strongest.
& its been heavily implied by Luffy himself that he doesn't care if his crew is weak 'cause he will protect them all and he trust in their own current strengths. It's called trust
motivation and ambition are one in the same.
You tried to make a point that would Nami get Conquerors cause she wants to see the world and you tried to equate that to Rogers "goal/ambition" so i asked what is the difference between the two goals?
The Haki itself is literally called Conqueror's Haki emphasis on the word "C O N Q U E R O R"
From all 14 current CoC users which ones of the half of those were just given Haoshoku cause Oda just wanted them to have it?
Roger himself was known as the strongest.
& its been heavily implied by Luffy himself that he doesn't care if his crew is weak 'cause he will protect them all and he trust in their own current strengths. It's called trust
motivation and ambition are one in the same.
You tried to make a point that would Nami get Conquerors cause she wants to see the world and you tried to equate that to Rogers "goal/ambition" so i asked what is the difference between the two goals?
The Haki itself is literally called Conqueror's Haki emphasis on the word "C O N Q U E R O R"
From all 14 current CoC users which ones of the half of those were just given Haoshoku cause Oda just wanted them to have it?
Motivation and ambition are not the same thing. Ambition is something you want to do and motivation is the reason why. From Oden’s flashback it seems Roger’s motivation for wanting to reach Laughtale was just about adventure and seeing every island. Oda could retcon that but at the moment we don’t really know the why he wanted to go to Laughtale just that he wanted to do it.
What are the motivations and ambitions of people like Rayleigh and Katakuri? Garp dented Chinjao’s drill and quit being a pirate. Everything about Yamato was made up, we saw Ace have it in a flashback and that was it and then there’s Kid
What are the motivations and ambitions of people like Rayleigh and Katakuri? Garp dented Chinjao’s drill and quit being a pirate. Everything about Yamato was made up, we saw Ace have it in a flashback and that was it and then there’s Kid