Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1093 Spoilers Discussion
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how can you disagree when we literally have the tap suffix on kizaru foot to bonney head? oda is literally telling you that kizaru places his foot against bonneys head "tap" then kizaru turns positions in the next panel lol ...on top of that kizaru himself said he wasn't trying to hurt her in the panel with the "tap" what since does it make to say i am not gonna hurt you and then proceed to kick you in the back of the head?
I am not cherry-picking anything. C3 arent equal because they have different powers and different showings.
Kuzan dodged WB while targeting and facing WB, failed to land a hit on him.
Kizaru dodged WB while targeting Luffy and not facing WB. Proceeded to land a hit on him while not even looking.
I didnt say Kizaru can blitz Garp, I said he can blitz Akainu and Kuzan because Garp can do it who isnt as fast as Kizaru.
Nice of Sentomaru to react to Kizaru but FS user just failed to react to the same Kizaru.
Plot aint excuse, Luffy cannot handle Jewels and Sword, that's why Kizaru resorts to blunt damage kicks.
No, you are cherry picking here. Willingly ignoring Kizaru's lightsaber and jewels to claim that his AP is bad due to nameless kicks that are blunt damage which obviously do nothing to near-immune towards blunt damage character like Luffy. When Kizaru deals insignificant damage to luffy with laser that took out Sentomaru or with clean hit with a lightsaber, then you can say Kizaru's AP is bad but if that ever happens, you should realize what that means for Kuzan's and Akainu's AP, lol.
Slashing attacks due make up for everything. One DeadMan's game can harm the scales permanently while one Bairang Gun cant harm the scales whatsoever. If a blunt damage aCoC coated attack hits Kizaru, ofc he will walk it off. However, I suspect that Zoro's cutting type wont be walkoff-able.
I am perfectly aware what narrative praise is. It can praise Big Mom all it wants but a guy with 0 narrative like King, beats the shit out of her in every single stat. How did Wano narrative affect me? I was disappointed? Sure. That's all. You are fooled by the narrative importance. Narrative importance =/= strength. Mihawk has very low narrative importance in the world overall, doesnt stop him from being the strongest character in existence. The narrative important of great Warlord Crocodile doesnt change that Mr1 cannot be beaten by Luffy and so on. The narrative of Luffy being the man who beat Kaido doesnt allow him to beat inferior copies of King.
I repeat, dont be fooled by the narrative.
It was a speed issue. He didnt need more AP if he managed to outspeed Kizaru and land hits cleanly which he failed to do.
Swordsmen keep proving that speed is an useless stat against them because they are simply way too good in CQC.
You are the one who said Luffy's attacks connected. They didnt. More AP against hax blocking may not change anything.
Kizaru's narrative importance is to share spotlight with one Elder. Akainu's narrative importance is to be buried below Imu, 4 Elders, Kong and at least one Holy Knight if not more. So Akainu's spotlight will be below at least 6 people while Kizaru's spotlight can only be trumped by one Elder and even that is only due to recency bias.
Every person he threw hands with was a sloppy guy like himself.
You saw how Kidd looks okay vs sloppy people like BM while gets trashed by people like Shanks.
You saw how Law looks decent against sloppy guy like BB while would get trashed by Shanks too.
Or by Doffy, simply by being better in CQC. Pay attention to what kind of fighters they are facing.
Kuzan dodged WB while targeting and facing WB, failed to land a hit on him.
Kizaru dodged WB while targeting Luffy and not facing WB. Proceeded to land a hit on him while not even looking.
I didnt say Kizaru can blitz Garp, I said he can blitz Akainu and Kuzan because Garp can do it who isnt as fast as Kizaru.
Nice of Sentomaru to react to Kizaru but FS user just failed to react to the same Kizaru.
Plot aint excuse, Luffy cannot handle Jewels and Sword, that's why Kizaru resorts to blunt damage kicks.
No, you are cherry picking here. Willingly ignoring Kizaru's lightsaber and jewels to claim that his AP is bad due to nameless kicks that are blunt damage which obviously do nothing to near-immune towards blunt damage character like Luffy. When Kizaru deals insignificant damage to luffy with laser that took out Sentomaru or with clean hit with a lightsaber, then you can say Kizaru's AP is bad but if that ever happens, you should realize what that means for Kuzan's and Akainu's AP, lol.
Slashing attacks due make up for everything. One DeadMan's game can harm the scales permanently while one Bairang Gun cant harm the scales whatsoever. If a blunt damage aCoC coated attack hits Kizaru, ofc he will walk it off. However, I suspect that Zoro's cutting type wont be walkoff-able.
I am perfectly aware what narrative praise is. It can praise Big Mom all it wants but a guy with 0 narrative like King, beats the shit out of her in every single stat. How did Wano narrative affect me? I was disappointed? Sure. That's all. You are fooled by the narrative importance. Narrative importance =/= strength. Mihawk has very low narrative importance in the world overall, doesnt stop him from being the strongest character in existence. The narrative important of great Warlord Crocodile doesnt change that Mr1 cannot be beaten by Luffy and so on. The narrative of Luffy being the man who beat Kaido doesnt allow him to beat inferior copies of King.
I repeat, dont be fooled by the narrative.
It was a speed issue. He didnt need more AP if he managed to outspeed Kizaru and land hits cleanly which he failed to do.
Swordsmen keep proving that speed is an useless stat against them because they are simply way too good in CQC.
You are the one who said Luffy's attacks connected. They didnt. More AP against hax blocking may not change anything.
Kizaru's narrative importance is to share spotlight with one Elder. Akainu's narrative importance is to be buried below Imu, 4 Elders, Kong and at least one Holy Knight if not more. So Akainu's spotlight will be below at least 6 people while Kizaru's spotlight can only be trumped by one Elder and even that is only due to recency bias.
Every person he threw hands with was a sloppy guy like himself.
You saw how Kidd looks okay vs sloppy people like BM while gets trashed by people like Shanks.
You saw how Law looks decent against sloppy guy like BB while would get trashed by Shanks too.
Or by Doffy, simply by being better in CQC. Pay attention to what kind of fighters they are facing.
@EmperorKinyagi I'm like 90% certain Luffy will need to push his COO to another level to win. Fight started in 1091 and only hit Luffy landed is with a sneak attack. It's like the Katakuri fight, it's not AP increase that Luffy needs to win.
Are you retarded?
Kizaru only hit on Luffy when directly fighting was that charged up kick which the most damage was done by the barrier as Luffy himself said. He then proceeds to try and kill/capture Vegapunk which Luffy then grabs him like a fly and throws him away.
Kizaru then tries to creates clones in order to have success in the assassination of Vegapunk and Luffy yet againt intercepts his attack.
So tell me what has Kizaru accomplished since Luffy appeared?
Kizaru only hit on Luffy when directly fighting was that charged up kick which the most damage was done by the barrier as Luffy himself said. He then proceeds to try and kill/capture Vegapunk which Luffy then grabs him like a fly and throws him away.
Kizaru then tries to creates clones in order to have success in the assassination of Vegapunk and Luffy yet againt intercepts his attack.
So tell me what has Kizaru accomplished since Luffy appeared?
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