Character Discussion Is V. Nasujuro even eligible for the WSS title?

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Wano is know for it's Ryou (CoA). Zoro didn't have CoC when he was given Enma. The people of Wano don't even know what CoC is. The scabbards refer to it as "that ability Oden can use." Kitetsu was confident Zoro might one day turn Enma black. So please explain to me, how Kitetsu seems to know how to forge a black blade, yet doesn't know what CoC is?
Yeah the people don't know what it is which is why only one person from there did it and he deffo had coc.
 
Yeah the people don't know what it is which is why only one person from there did it and he deffo had coc.
That doesn't explain how how someone who doesn't know what CoC is, knows how a black blade is forged.

Even Gyukimaru seems to know how to forge a Black Blade, as Zoro was about to ask him, before he got interrupted.

Are you telling me that Zoro was going to ask Gyukimaru if the color of a black blade comes from Conqueror's Haki?



Zoro didn't even have CoC at the time, and didn't even know that AdCoC was possible. Very strange, how he would be assuming that a Black Blade is forged by something he knew nothing about at the time.
 
Imu > EoS Teach >= PK >= Yonko >~ Gorosei >= Admirals > Mihawk / Warlords/ YCs

Gorosei don't need titles to be above warlords or YCs
I believe strongest Gorosei will be PK lvl, but overall this could be true scaling. Unless Luffy will be weaker then Saturn so Kaido will be below Gorosei
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
That doesn't explain how how someone who doesn't know what CoC is, knows how a black blade is forged.

Even Gyukimaru seems to know how to forge a Black Blade, as Zoro was about to ask him, before he got interrupted.

Are you telling me that Zoro was going to ask Gyukimaru if the color of a black blade comes from Conqueror's Haki?



Zoro didn't even have CoC at the time, and didn't even know that AdCoC was possible. Very strange, how he would be assuming that a Black Blade is forged by something he knew nothing about at the time.
Zoro didn't say coa there.
Again shanks oden Roger have been using coa on their swords longer than zoro has been alive.
 
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Come on dude. Shanks has been the only character that was hyped for his strong coc pre skip. And Roger's coc was hyped by oden, someone who was almost close enough to make a black blade.

Even ignoring that, Kaido, the supposed strongest creature in the world, hyped up Roger and Shanks and had them in his top 5. You think he does that to dudes with weak coc?


Where as, Mihawk has NEVER been hyped up about his coc AT ALL. The only reason we even know Mihawk has it is cause Zoro has it.


It's pretty clear that acoc isn't what gives someone a black blade. It's gonna be some philosophical shit like Miyamoto Musashi and his becoming the void. Basically, they have to become the sword itself and be one with the sword to get a black blade. And Shanks and Roger and WB and whoever else just saw their swords as just tools to channel their power.
 
Zoro didn't say coa there.
Again shanks oden Roger have been using coa on their swords longer than zoro has been alive.
I didn't say he said CoA, but he clearly had something in mind when he was asking, before he got cut off. He knew nothing of CoC at the time, so that eliminates CoC of having anything to do with black blades. Your only other options are CoA and CoO. Pick one.
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If its CoA related then that means its strength related. Wtf are you saying CoA is combat ability
No it doesn't mean it's strength related.

Nothing in the series says "You have to have X level haki in order to forge a black blade."

That is just your guys assumption, that you keep spouting all over the place like it's a manga fact.
 
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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
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Come on dude. Shanks has been the only character that was hyped for his strong coc pre skip. And Roger's coc was hyped by oden, someone who was almost close enough to make a black blade.

Even ignoring that, Kaido, the supposed strongest creature in the world, hyped up Roger and Shanks and had them in his top 5. You think he does that to dudes with weak coc?


Where as, Mihawk has NEVER been hyped up about his coc AT ALL. The only reason we even know Mihawk has it is cause Zoro has it.


It's pretty clear that acoc isn't what gives someone a black blade. It's gonna be some philosophical shit like Miyamoto Musashi and his becoming the void. Basically, they have to become the sword itself and be one with the sword to get a black blade. And Shanks and Roger and WB and whoever else just saw their swords as just tools to channel their power.
Mihawk hasn't been hyped on any haki yet. Doesn't mean it won't be better than Shanks. Same for dragon.
Yeah so oden who had a beloved blade
Shanks who has a beloved blade
Roger who has a beloved blade he named his son after cares for their swords
As opposed to zoro who only cares if he has 3 bar wado and will go through swords at will.
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I didn't say he said CoA, but he clearly had something in mind when he was asking, before he got cut off. He knew nothing of CoC at the time, so that eliminates CoC of having anything to do with black blades. Your only other options are CoA and CoO. Pick one.
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No it doesn't mean it's strength related.

Nothing in the series says "You have to have X level haki in order to forge a black blade."

That is just your guys assumption, that you keep spouting all over the place like it's a manga fact.
Coa alone went out the window when zoro got acoc with enma being highlighted
 
Mihawk hasn't been hyped on any haki yet. Doesn't mean it won't be better than Shanks. Same for dragon.
Yeah so oden who had a beloved blade
Shanks who has a beloved blade
Roger who has a beloved blade he named his son after cares for their swords
As opposed to zoro who only cares if he has 3 bar wado and will go through swords at will.
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Coa alone went out the window when zoro got acoc with enma being highlighted
Lol, how does that make CoA go out the window? Enma eats peoples CoA.
 
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