Chapter Discussion “Kizaru isn’t getting back up”
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@silverfire I like how you told me to stop attacking people for going against my view of the story, yet you like the posts of people doing the exact same thing. You should rename yourself into "ironfire" for the irony.
Luffy is going to fight Saturn and not Kizaru, it takes a 3 year-old reading comprehension to understand that.
If it's not clear for you, I can take my time to write it down in a thread.
Luffy is going to fight Saturn and not Kizaru, it takes a 3 year-old reading comprehension to understand that.
If it's not clear for you, I can take my time to write it down in a thread.
Lucci and Kizaru both were "knocked-out" by Luffy but they are not out of the story.
Kizaru will be able to move probably by the same time than Luffy, I don't doubt that.
However, Kizaru is clearly not Luffy's villain anymore.
Kizaru is thinking about his friends, not about fighting Luffy.
Saturn is attacking Kuma and Bonney.
Luffy is very most likely going back to Gear 5 since he is recovering and fighting Saturn.
Kuma, Bonney, Sentomaru, Vegapunk and Kizaru will experience Nika together.
Kizaru will be able to move probably by the same time than Luffy, I don't doubt that.
However, Kizaru is clearly not Luffy's villain anymore.
Kizaru is thinking about his friends, not about fighting Luffy.
Saturn is attacking Kuma and Bonney.
Luffy is very most likely going back to Gear 5 since he is recovering and fighting Saturn.
Kuma, Bonney, Sentomaru, Vegapunk and Kizaru will experience Nika together.
Most casuals dont care about anything except the last panel, just like you.
That's why they are bad at power scaling, just like you.
To determine who is stronger, you need to free your mind and look further than just the end result.
Well, the whole Luffy vs Kizaru is weird to begin with. I never thought it would happen, nothing connects the two.
It all feels like a stalling device to achieve nothing at all really.
However, if we look at what we are given, the guy who is casually handling Snakeman never landing any proper hit on Luffy is just weird.
On the other hand, the guy who spams hits and beats people through damage accumulation fails to land a single hit in the fight aside from the moment he runs out of juice...
That's why they are bad at power scaling, just like you.
To determine who is stronger, you need to free your mind and look further than just the end result.
Well, the whole Luffy vs Kizaru is weird to begin with. I never thought it would happen, nothing connects the two.
It all feels like a stalling device to achieve nothing at all really.
However, if we look at what we are given, the guy who is casually handling Snakeman never landing any proper hit on Luffy is just weird.
On the other hand, the guy who spams hits and beats people through damage accumulation fails to land a single hit in the fight aside from the moment he runs out of juice...
This is a story about Inherited Will, the practical power of friendship (ie you literally cannot do it all alone), and a power system literally based around testing your will against another.
Even if Kizaru isn't *intentionally* throwing, he's still very upset by the fact he has to kill Vegapunk and has only gotten more conflicted about it. Judging by the conversation with Luffy he has no personal anger or hate towards him, no doubt his haki is weaker.
He'd still have lost a straight fight where he wasn't constantly running away.
Even if Kizaru isn't *intentionally* throwing, he's still very upset by the fact he has to kill Vegapunk and has only gotten more conflicted about it. Judging by the conversation with Luffy he has no personal anger or hate towards him, no doubt his haki is weaker.
He'd still have lost a straight fight where he wasn't constantly running away.
Kizaru was strong enough to keep G5 occupied while doing other stuff , he send clones against G5 while Kizaru went to Usopp , Vegapunk , despite fighting casually he was not defeated meanwhile Kaido got wrecked by G5 plain and simple. 
Luffy was fighting Lucci, Seraphim and running around Egghead to find Vegapunk. All this before he even fought Kizaru. What's Kizaru's excuse?
He got taken down by Luffy's counter. Meanwhile Luffy got taken out due to exhaustion. In what way is this a W for the Admirals?
He got taken down by Luffy's counter. Meanwhile Luffy got taken out due to exhaustion. In what way is this a W for the Admirals?
If they never fight again, there is nothing really that we can determine from their "fight".
It serves no real purpose with no real result and no real effort from either side...
@silverfire I like how you told me to stop attacking people for going against my view of the story, yet you like the posts of people doing the exact same thing. You should rename yourself into "ironfire" for the irony.
Luffy is going to fight Saturn and not Kizaru, it takes a 3 year-old reading comprehension to understand that.
If it's not clear for you, I can take my time to write it down in a thread.
Luffy is going to fight Saturn and not Kizaru, it takes a 3 year-old reading comprehension to understand that.
If it's not clear for you, I can take my time to write it down in a thread.
(and yeah I’ll always like admiral agenda posts, that’s a given)
Edit: ironfire is actually pretty cool, maybe I should change my name to that…
