Double Jeopardy!!
Nah bro You're views are just shit. But it's ok, with time you'll be able to see the light.
Lmao shut up!!! This is exactly what I’m talking about. You’re politically illiterate and all around a guy that has 100% bought into cultural warfare. You’re the caricature of what a right winger is. You’re just the right wing version of C4N.
 
Lmao shut up!!! This is exactly what I’m talking about. You’re politically illiterate and all around a guy that has 100% bought into cultural warfare. You’re the caricature of what a right winger is. You’re just the right wing version of C4N.
You say all that but it doesn't mean anything, It's just anybody could say when they don't have much else to say. You pretty much went with the equivalent of "No you".

I've seen and watched what the Democrats/leftist are doing and I do not agree with them, My morals and ethics put me on the Right, it's probably the same for you for whatever you are. But to make such a statement as 100% bought into the cultural warfare, etc... how utterly lame. Making lameass insults as if I'm a RW C4N, Do better I know you can if you tried hard enough.
 
So your argument is that is ok for Hamas to use human shield because they are small and Israel is big? WTF?
The argument is that Hamas is not using human shield. They are just using the most effective strategy to avoid being annihilated. This is the strategy that any resistance group would adopt in such a situation in a space that small.

When you don't have an entire country to resist, you can't afford creating bases (and even then WWII proved that resistant will often hide in the population to avoid being annihilated), so what you do then ? Well, you create tunnels under the city with access in different locations and habitations to move around.

With the need of man power, in a space that small and with almost no region to create bases that can be hidden effectively, the only solution viable is to hide under the city, hidding among the population.

Any good war strategist would understand that.

The argument that the Hamas is using the population as human shield is a a clear deshumanization process and a child level propaganda meant to delegitimize the simple existence of the resistance against an illegal and horrific colonization process and oppression of the population by the Israelian government in the eyes of the rest of Palestinians and the international community.

To make the picture clearer for you: What you don't realize, is that you are defending the propaganda of the empire.

So you are not an agent of the light mate and its time for you to change your avatar. I propose this image. It will be more fitting:


 
You say all that but it doesn't mean anything, It's just anybody could say when they don't have much else to say. You pretty much went with the equivalent of "No you".

I've seen and watched what the Democrats/leftist are doing and I do not agree with them, My morals and ethics put me on the Right, it's probably the same for you for whatever you are. But to make such a statement as 100% bought into the cultural warfare, etc... how utterly lame. Making lameass insults as if I'm a RW C4N, Do better I know you can if you tried hard enough.
You can take it as an insult. But I can’t take you seriously when you haven’t even been able to understand the difference between liberalism and actual people on the left. You complain about ilegal immigrants when the border policy has been the exact way ever since George w bush. Don’t pretend to be a well read guy when all I see is a partisan hack. I’m not a democrat and I don’t support 99% of them. All I want is affordable and universal healthcare, universal background. Heck’s for gun purchases, end all foreign wars, etc.
 
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The argument is that Hamas is not using human shield.
They hide below hospital. There is no other argument of using human shield greater than that.

Plus what you call resistance has representatives that already public claimed to want the destruction of jew race.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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Let’s be honest—Israel can’t end the war before Hamas is neutralized. Hamas has stated that they will replicate 10/7 in the future and no sovereign country can endure what happened and allow that regime to stand, if its in their power to stop it.
 
You can take it as an insult. But I can’t take you seriously when you haven’t even been able to understand the difference between liberalism and actual people on the left. You complain about ilegal immigrants when the border policy has been the exact way ever since George w bush. Don’t pretend to be a well read guy when all I see is a partisan hack. I’m not a democrat and I don’t support 99% of them. All I want is affordable and universal healthcare, universal background. Heck’s for gun purchases, end all foreign wars, etc.
Love how you make broad accusations and make them fact. You never asked as such. But good job. But sure Ok I'm not as well read as others are, That doesn't negate my point of view either way.
I never wanted Illegals in my country, get the fuck out pieces of shits. Round them up and deport them. I couldn't care less about whatever else you've said.

If C4N is as well read as he says he is and is still such a fucking dumbass, Then I question his literature. /shrug
 
Love how you make broad accusations and make them fact. You never asked as such. But good job. But sure Ok I'm not as well read as others are, That doesn't negate my point of view either way.
I never wanted Illegals in my country, get the fuck out pieces of shits. Round them up and deport them. I couldn't care less about whatever else you've said.

If C4N is as well read as he says he is and is still such a fucking dumbass, Then I question his literature. /shrug
I’d be willing to hear you out on immigration if you weren’t calling all illegals “pieces of shit”

you’re just an uneducated bigot. The reason there are illegals in the first place is because we don’t have a comprehensive immigration system. I am more than familiar with it since I went through it when I was a kid. It is expensive and time consuming. And these people are running away from violence that we created in the first place.

and btw, c4N is not an intellectual and not that well read. He’s just preachy and stubborn.
 
I’d be willing to hear you out on immigration if you weren’t calling all illegals “pieces of shit”

you’re just an uneducated bigot. The reason there are illegals in the first place is because we don’t have a comprehensive immigration system. I am more than familiar with it since I went through it when I was a kid. It is expensive and time consuming. And these people are running away from violence that we created in the first place.

and btw, c4N is not an intellectual and not that well read. He’s just preachy and stubborn.
Again you're making statements and hoping they stick, your quite lame bro. Get some new material.
Illegals are Illegal, that's all I need. Sure it sucks, some are leaving other countries but that's not my problem, if they collectively made a stand they'd make a difference in their own countries. And Yes fuck our Military Complex business, they're making the world hell for ppl. But it's not "we", Don't push all the blame on 1 countries.
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
Is it so difficult to have a normal convo about shit? Instead of constantly calling each other left or right wing as if it gives you a moral high ground?

We got people being called far right who isn't by definition. We got people being accused of defending Hamas when they never once did.
 
I’d be willing to hear you out on immigration if you weren’t calling all illegals “pieces of shit”

you’re just an uneducated bigot. The reason there are illegals in the first place is because we don’t have a comprehensive immigration system. I am more than familiar with it since I went through it when I was a kid. It is expensive and time consuming. And these people are running away from violence that we created in the first place.

and btw, c4N is not an intellectual and not that well read. He’s just preachy and stubborn.
So the US is to blame for Colombia being a mess?lmfao
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Bolsonaro é muito gostoso
Tá fazendo cursinho de português e ouviu a voz maravilhosa do Mito e gamou,né?
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They hide below hospital. There is no other argument of using human shield greater than that.

Plus what you call resistance has representatives that already public claimed to want the destruction of jew race.
Israel is doing what Hamas did,but 10x worse.
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Is it so difficult to have a normal convo about shit? Instead of constantly calling each other left or right wing as if it gives you a moral high ground?

We got people being called far right who isn't by definition. We got people being accused of defending Hamas when they never once did.
Keyboard warriors are all over this place.
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Nothing against your opinion. I don't share it.
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Usually the ones in power are the ones capable of doing corruption but yeah you are right. Here in Brazil something similar happened. The party in power that was left wing was arrested for corruption but when the investigations got into the party of center (middle between left and right don't know if you guys call it like this) them investigations were favoring them to not get arrested.


Not so sure about it. For what I say the constitution itself allows freedom of speech in US but you have crimes like falsely accussing someone of a crime. You still have the freedom to do so.
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All Hamas responsability for using human shield.
Falando merda sem legenda hein
 
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They hide below hospital
And ? Its a key location if there are wounded during a fight or if they want to avoid bombing (in the case that the opposite side acts humanily). It would be stupid from them to avoid creating a path under an hospital.

Again, the argument that the Hamas is "using the population as human shield" is only a deshumanization and a propaganda process meant to deligitimize a group of resistance (granted foundamentalist and which did a war crime) in the eye of everyone. ANY oppressor and fascist state would use the SAME propaganda method in the situation of Israel.

But its just a fallacious excuse for propaganda, that is only convincing those who have not even the slightest idea of the reality of the population of Gaza day to day. In reality, those who are pulling the trigger and wants the world to ignore that, is the Israel goverment.

There are absolutely no human excuses to bomb hospitals and dense populated areas, EVEN if the leader of Hamas was hidden inside it. Its simply inhuman, its a war crime and the addition to those war crimes added to the politic of "volontary displacement" of the population of Gaza is called an Ethnical cleansing.

All of this has another name, the name of a crime against humanity: a genocide.

Israel can’t end the war before Hamas is neutralized
This would mean the annihilation of the population as there is no way to distinguish the Hamas from the rest. Their only choice is to fight when fights will arrive and bomb everything until there is no one left in Gaza.

I don't recommand that image as a profil pic for you. You are more of a pre rebellion Mon Mothma:



Just before she understands that she needs to fight herself for the rebellion.


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Just as a heads up mate. Deportation is considered a crime against humanity.

That's what fascists do.

Do you want me to call you like that ?


We got people being called far right who isn't by definition.
And that's why you will always be one step behind the understanding of the political reality of our societies.

Your stubborness to be nuanced blinds you from the danger that is in front of you. We have here people who are making literal apologies of crimes against humanity. Its doesn't get worse than that.

It's time to wake up mate. Its not too late.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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I don't recommand that image as a profil pic for you. You are more of a pre rebellion Mon Mothma:
I think I can do better
This would mean the annihilation of the population as there is no way to distinguish the Hamas from the rest. Their only choice is to fight when fights will arrive and bomb everything until there is no one left in Gaza.
But it does reflect the situation on a real politik level. Israel as a state cannot allow a neighboring country and or government to exist that can inflict these horrors onto itself (whether "deserved" or in the act of other natures not withstanding). No Israeli government will be able to run while Hamas leadership has control over Gaza, even in name.
 
Some people don't like to call a genocidal spade a genocidal spade
Propaganda.
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I think I can do better

But it does reflect the situation on a real politik level. Israel as a state cannot allow a neighboring country and or government to exist that can inflict these horrors onto itself (whether "deserved" or in the act of other natures not withstanding). No Israeli government will be able to run while Hamas leadership has control over Gaza, even in name.
The war itself is not the problem. The problem is how they are going about it. Israel has the right to defend itself,but they are committing war crimes with these bombings.
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Love how you make broad accusations and make them fact. You never asked as such. But good job. But sure Ok I'm not as well read as others are, That doesn't negate my point of view either way.
I never wanted Illegals in my country, get the fuck out pieces of shits. Round them up and deport them. I couldn't care less about whatever else you've said.

If C4N is as well read as he says he is and is still such a fucking dumbass, Then I question his literature. /shrug
The problem with him is that he is a extreme left wing militant. He only reads his own leftie literature. People that only smell their own fart become dumb. I think he severely lacks in real life experience too.
 
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Life is most likely an illusion mate. (But that may be going a bit too far for now in materialist and too much for this thread to handle)


Well.. that's your image, you do you lol


Israel as a state cannot allow a neighboring country and or government to exist that can inflict these horrors onto itself
Yes they can.

Japanese are living in the same world as the nation who atomized two of their cities.. Do you see them retaliating or keeping a global hate against the US citizen ? No. Because this is a luxury that only those in power have.

The population of Gaza is asking for only a few things : the end of Colonization and liberation of colonized areas and the end of the oppression of the palestinian people. Give them that and Hamas will cease to exist for the most part as it is only fueled by the anger of the population. Of course it will still be a foundamentalist threat, but it will be reduced to a micro movement.

Israel has no choice. Either they end up as actors of crimes against humanity (and people will be brought in front of justice for that) and bring the entierity of the region down with them (Yemen/Iran.. the world?) or they cease their operations and admit their states as oppressors.
 
Life is most likely an illusion mate. (But that may be going a bit too far for now in materialist and too much for this thread to handle)



Well.. that's your image, you do you lol



Yes they can.

Japanese are living in the same world as the nation who atomized two of their cities.. Do you see them retaliating or keeping a global hate against the US citizen ? No. Because this is a luxury that only those in power have.

The population of Gaza is asking for only a few things : the end of Colonization and liberation of colonized areas and the end of the oppression of the palestinian people. Give them that and Hamas will cease to exist for the most part as it is only fueled by the anger of the population. Of course it will still be a foundamentalist threat, but it will be reduced to a micro movement.

Israel has no choice. Either they end up as actors of crimes against humanity (and people will be judge for that in the future) and bring the entierity of the region down with them (Yemen/Iran.. the world?) or they cease their operations and admit their states as oppressors.
So you are saying Israel needs to cease to be?Because that is what Hamas wants.
 
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