Is Bleach Better than Kingdom?


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Hara has found a way to make just about everyone look bad.
  • A Kou is a fucking idiot and the current Zhao MVP
  • Shin is an obsessive moron with compromised decision making around Ri Boku
  • Sou'Ou and Den Ri Mi panicking and arguing in front of their troops is absurdly amateurish
  • Ji Aga's martial might stock is taking hit after hit
  • Gaku Shou and Fuu On continued to be arrogant dicks that can't get it done

So far only Kan Saro and Shi Ba Shou are looking good. I also want to give credit to Ou Hon and Kan Jou.
 
I've been ADAMANT about A Kou surviving this arc because Hara has no satisfying replacement for him as the RH and #1 option for Qin's best general.

At this moment, I still think he survives, but I don't feel like he should. This dude stays getting fucked up and bedridden. It's gotten ridiculous. Hara needs to get more creative with how he removes characters from the board temporarily.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
I caught up to Kingdom in 2019, meaning I’ve read this series week to week for almost 5 years now, and through 6 story arcs (End of Shukai, Kyourei bullshit, Eikyuu/Kochou, Battle of Gian, Kanpishi, and now Hango)

And I can safely say that Hango is by far the most miserable Kingdom arc to read week to week. No contest, it’s not even close. In the past I really felt like I could patiently wait for Kingdom chapters with no issue. I often never read spoilers, and sometimes I would even let 3/4 chapters all release so I could binge them all at once, and I would avoid spoilers because it just felt much more satisfying to read that way.

Not with Hango though, this shit has been utterly miserable. I think this is the first time like I’ve really felt like Hara is pulling the bait-and-switch tactic on me as a reader. In the past I really felt like each Kingdom chapter (for the most part) was worth reading by its own merits. Now I really feel like Hara is using Shibashou to bait us in, but then he keeps cutting away from the shit we want to see in favor of bullshit like a fucking Sou’Ou x Shiryou flashback. I do not fucking care Hara, and I’m probably one of the more patient Kingdom fans at least here in the western/english fandom. I’m more willing to put up with a goddamn Sou’Ou Harem flashback if the main throughline of the battle (Shibashou vs Ousen) was satisfying but it hasn’t been.

I am not a fan of Hango so far in the slightest. The entire battle has been one of three things:

1. An utter clone of the far superior Shukai Plains arc
2. Baiting and off-paneling the shit we all want to see in favor of this bullshit
3. An utter waste of Shin and Ouhon’s biggest battle to date. Hara hyped the HSU leading 30,000 men and Shin has not had one single good moment this entire arc. Neither has Ouhon.

I’m at a point where I’m ready to declare the beginning of Hango as an utter failure, the absolute worst battle Hara has ever done. Yes even worse than KokuYou Hills. Maybe I’m alone in this regard but this battle hasn’t even been remotely satisfying for me. Just a bunch of empty hype and the same baiting and switching tactics utilized by Oda and other inferior mangaka. Hara is way too good for this crap.
 
Alright, Jiaga is certainly not Moubu level. Sou'ou has clearly never seen Moubu in action and is talking bullsensical nonsense. :shame:
Raw strength is one thing, general strength is another
Just look at Chougaryuu vs Shin, and Batei vs Shin
Batei's pinky holds more strength than Garyuu's arm, but honoring RSJ's will made him stronger

Or Ouki one shotting Lord Shoumou, who was thought to have equal physical strength to Moubu
 
Y'all need to learn to accept Hara is and will always be a bullshit artist when it comes to dialogue.

You can't trust what he has his characters say.

You can only trust what he shows you.

There was nothing to support Ji Aga was on Mou Bu's level based on what we saw.
 
Alright, Jiaga is certainly not Moubu level. Sou'ou has clearly never seen Moubu in action and is talking bullsensical nonsense. :shame:
Probably just was a wrong estimation from him seeing Jiaga smash and sending folks flying. The Jiaga panel where Sou'Ou labels him as having strenght on par with Moubu's...that was drawn like many Moubu panels that we have seen. In terms of brute strenght Jiaga is plenty strong for sure.

Of course in an actual one vs one duel he loses. Heck probably even his own lord Shibashou loses against Moubu at that.
 
Probably just was a wrong estimation from him seeing Jiaga smash and sending folks flying. The Jiaga panel where Sou'Ou labels him as having strenght on par with Moubu's...that was drawn like many Moubu panels we have seen. In terms of brute strenght Jiaga is plenty strong for sure.

Of course in an actual one vs one duel he loses. Heck probably even his own lord Shibashou loses against Moubu at that.
Ji Aga = Moubu is a fact in the same alternate reality where Gokei has B experience
:saden:
 
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