Questions & Mysteries Why there are so many Admiral Haters here?

Tell me this: does stronger=unbeatable? Cause Yonko>Admiral simply means all Yonko are stronger period. Yonko~Admiral means either or can be stronger, like Akainu>Shanks or Kizaru>BM or Kuzan>BB and the like.

Admirals are shown, told and portrayed to be in the same ballpark as the Emperors, as the thought of being able to take either out is veiwed as equally foolish.

And Kaido being the unofficial World's Strongesr Creature makes all Admirals weaker than Big Mom by default? That doesn't make any sense.
I did not say unbeatable.

I'm the first one to say that fights are not merely determined by who is stronger, there are other factors and it's not because someone is stronger that they always win.

Yonko being above admirals does not imply that admirals always lose against yonko.
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
I did not say unbeatable.

I'm the first one to say that fights are not merely determined by who is stronger, there are other factors and it's not because someone is stronger that they always win.

Yonko being above admirals does not imply that admirals always lose against yonko.
Then I fail to see what the issue is with the Yonko~Admiral opinion.
 
It's no coincidence that majority of the people who are the loudest about the evil admiral fans have only been around for 1 or 2 years. Usually late 2022 which is a bad time if you were a power level driven "yonko are much stronger" poster. A quick timeline from an old timer(in my 20s for those who ask):

2009 to 2013:
-1 Yonko=/> 3 Admirals and Admiral=Commander was overwhelming norm.
-Deathbeard 2 shotted Akainu, Shanks>MF, Prime Ray>Kizaru+Kuma+Sentomaru


2013 to 2015:
-Chinjao says thinking you can take out an Emperor or admiral is foolish
-Fujitora embarrasses Sabo
-Luffy says he can't be PK without taking out the yonko and admirals
-Fujitora gets bruised by G3 Luffy

Yonko~ or = admirals starts getting stream which of course was meet with tons of shit talking, with the Luffy punch being a big go-to counter.

2016
-MASSIVE Yonko hype for Kaido and BM
- "Jack is Admiral level" becomes a thing

2017 to 2018
-BIG MEME
-Every anti-admiral argument is circulation happened to BM, making Yonko=/~Admiral take off in full.

2019 to 2020: Lord Kaido
-Kaido one shots Luffy
-Fuji and GB has off screen clash with Revos
-Fuji is a mummy after the encounter
-King almost kills BM
-BM wipes out Queen but gets knocked out
-Kaido almost gets one shot by Oden
-Kaido destroys the Scabbards and lifts an island

Very chaotic times here with the 'Yonko being much stronger than Admirals' sentiment still going real strong for the reasons above. It's pretty obvious what the arguments from both sides were.

2021 to mid 2022: Lord Kaido(again).
-Kaido becomes the king of feats
-BM shows a ton of feats and gets massacred by the plot.

Mid to late 2022: Validation
-GB packs up King and Queen with the claim they were wearing invisible cuffs being the reason
-GB easily restrains the Scabbards
-GB surrenders to wifi
-Revealed that GB hurt Fuji
-Revealed that GB and Fuji were nerfed in Marijoies and was stated 3 times in one chapter
-GB easily packs up Weevil
-BB surrenders to Old Ray

Similar to the WCI era, a ton of anti-admiral arguments were destroyed in just half a year which made admirals pop off big time. This is when you see the spike of yonko guys complaining about admiral fan toxicity.
I never understood the "They were cuffed thing"
It was obvious they didn't lose because of that, they didn't even look like they had cuffs on, they were just weakened at the time.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
After spending some time mapping the Fabriophase, it's pretty disgraceful that an Admiral was punched and thrown away like garbage by someone on the other side of the island using only basic CoA.
It's not as humiliating as the wifi haki, but the Marines have been pretty pathetic this arc.
And it's not just "this arc", it's been humbling after humbling ever since Wano ended.

Feel like Admirals (or Yonkou) just look intimidating until we get to see them on panel where the whole mythos is destroyed... especially if they interact with Goofy.
 
Honestly though I don't believe there are many actual Admiral or Yonko haters here, it's more of just Yonko and Admiral fans trolling each other claiming their respective faves are weak.
For example, I don't hate the Admirals. I'm actually making a thread about a certain one right now.
But I still slander them a lot, out of retaliation.
 
After spending some time mapping the Fabriophase, it's pretty disgraceful that an Admiral was punched and thrown away like garbage by someone on the other side of the island using only basic CoA.
It's not as humiliating as the wifi haki, but the Marines have been pretty pathetic this arc.
All while laying down lmao
 
After spending some time mapping the Fabriophase, it's pretty disgraceful that an Admiral was punched and thrown away like garbage by someone on the other side of the island using only basic CoA.
It's not as humiliating as the wifi haki, but the Marines have been pretty pathetic this arc.
Bro was having lunch and chilling near the vending machine and punched away the admiral from his place while laughing his ass off, with a mere armament haki punch

Then, you have people who are still pushing that the Sun God Nika < Kizaru and that there will be a round 2
 
So it would appear that you agree that there’s more to this than power levels lol. It’s like you said, Kuzan was unemployed and had no prospects. He didn’t have an organization to lead and wasn’t after OP. So of course him just falling under Teach’s banner just makes sense irrespective of power level, which is exactly how the manga portrayed it.

Why yall see fit to go the extra yard and infer Yonko > Admiral from that scene when if anything Kuzan vs Teach implies the exact opposite is beyond me…
Because the hierarchy in pirate crews is based on strength. You don't see a pirate crew where subordinates are equal, let alone superior to the captain (as for Cross Guild, neither is it a "pirate crew", nor do Crocodile and Mihawk "follow" Buggy or acknowledge him as a captain). It's not like in the Marines, where you have a fleet admiral doing paperwork behind the desk. And even then, the fleet admiral is one of the, if not the strongest military force within the Marine HQ ranks, so at least a peer to his fellow admirals from which he gets promoted by virtue of his leadership abilities.
 
Then why do all Confrontations end with defeat of AdmiraLs by Yonko ?
Because you read two piece , Akainu didnt suffer any damage or defeat he was fine he continued fighting perfectly fine, Greenbull was fine no damage was done, and Kizaru recovered too he was able to continue fighting and didnt suffer any lasting damage.

Yonko tards like you know very well no Yonko defeated admiral ,so in lack of real arguments now you have fallen so low you consider landing attack as victory . Grasping for straws perfect example.
 
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