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1. 1.5 % of the population with intersex characteristic is not nature "f*cking up", it a clear difference mate.
2. The concept of nature f*cking would mean that there is something wrong with intersex people. There is none.
3. The presence of intersex people is an evidence of the non binarity of sexual characteristics
Nop mate, its a third category.
World health organization : "{...] sex, which refers to the different biological and physiological characteristics of females, males and intersex persons, such as chromosomes, hormones and reproductive organs. "
It wasn't clear enough in your phrasing. We are ok then.
I'm sorry, what ?
Noone is forcing anything on kids, relax.
Ironic, in french "un gaucho" is a pejorative name for "a leftist".
The concept of responsibility in a materialist world is an illusion. So, technically and in absolute, the simple fact of punishing a person for something that they did without the possibility of stopping themself because of a lack of treatment, education, will or simple care... is a nonsence.
Prison are only here to keep the population safe, not to punish. In the future, prisons will disappear to give place to care and rehabilitation center. Complex and advanced psychological facilities that will prevent those people from being any more of a danger for society. If we are able rehabilitate those people deeply without the prison parameter, we will have risen to the next level on the civilisation scale.
But this is something that is beyond even communism or anarchism.
Do you profit from capitalism, I mean by that: are you a Billionnaire or even a millionnaire ?
Actually, without the left, you would have fascism since there would be nothing to stop the far right from radicalization.
I bet you are the kind of guy who would have sold your neighboor to the authority for reading Marx during the Mccarthyism Era... It feels like your entire vision of the world is driven by fear and complotism.
No it doesn't. Its just in your head mate..
I don't know who educated you in the red scare, but damn, they did a really good job at it ! You are completely matrixed by the fearof leftist boogymen that you seems to think are here to take your freedom away.
2. The concept of nature f*cking would mean that there is something wrong with intersex people. There is none.
3. The presence of intersex people is an evidence of the non binarity of sexual characteristics
Nop mate, its a third category.
World health organization : "{...] sex, which refers to the different biological and physiological characteristics of females, males and intersex persons, such as chromosomes, hormones and reproductive organs. "
It wasn't clear enough in your phrasing. We are ok then.
I'm sorry, what ?
Noone is forcing anything on kids, relax.
Ironic, in french "un gaucho" is a pejorative name for "a leftist".
The concept of responsibility in a materialist world is an illusion. So, technically and in absolute, the simple fact of punishing a person for something that they did without the possibility of stopping themself because of a lack of treatment, education, will or simple care... is a nonsence.
Prison are only here to keep the population safe, not to punish. In the future, prisons will disappear to give place to care and rehabilitation center. Complex and advanced psychological facilities that will prevent those people from being any more of a danger for society. If we are able rehabilitate those people deeply without the prison parameter, we will have risen to the next level on the civilisation scale.
But this is something that is beyond even communism or anarchism.
Do you profit from capitalism, I mean by that: are you a Billionnaire or even a millionnaire ?
Actually, without the left, you would have fascism since there would be nothing to stop the far right from radicalization.
I bet you are the kind of guy who would have sold your neighboor to the authority for reading Marx during the Mccarthyism Era... It feels like your entire vision of the world is driven by fear and complotism.
No it doesn't. Its just in your head mate..
I don't know who educated you in the red scare, but damn, they did a really good job at it ! You are completely matrixed by the fearof leftist boogymen that you seems to think are here to take your freedom away.
1.5% is a very small minority, especially considering you have to add up different intersex conditions for that number. . .
and well yeah, it is a biological irregularity lol. and no, intersex people dont have a third gamete, so sex is still binary
ye at best one could describe intersex people as third option thats basically "none". they either dont belong to either sex because they dont produce gametes, or they do and are part of either of the sexes male and female.
its not an actual third sex though, because there is no third gamete thats part of sexual reproduction.
huh, i thought it was very clear in our discussion a couple weeks ago. but well, fair enough then
and well yeah, it is a biological irregularity lol. and no, intersex people dont have a third gamete, so sex is still binary
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ye at best one could describe intersex people as third option thats basically "none". they either dont belong to either sex because they dont produce gametes, or they do and are part of either of the sexes male and female.
its not an actual third sex though, because there is no third gamete thats part of sexual reproduction.
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huh, i thought it was very clear in our discussion a couple weeks ago. but well, fair enough then
No, its actually enormous in a scientific sence. Its far more important than a simple mutation of nature. Its literally a sign of the non binarity of sex. Its minoritary of course, but significant.
Sex is not "the males" or "the females". "Sex" uncompass ALL the biological characteristics and attribute related to the difference between sex. So its not two parameters, its three categories of attributes.
Sex is not "the males" or "the females". "Sex" uncompass ALL the biological characteristics and attribute related to the difference between sex. So its not two parameters, its three categories of attributes.
great how you ignored the part where i said you have to add up different intersex conditions.
these are all extreme minorities and irregularities, so yeah, nature fucking up.
and as i also said, some individuals still produce gametes, so belong to male or female by definition, depending on which gamete they are producing.
it totally is though. sex is about sexual reproduction, which is based on a system of two gametes in all of mammalian biology at the very least. its different when you look at funghi for example
but if you desperately want to have intersex people that dont produce gametes be described as "neither", fine. then we would have 3 sexes.
these are all extreme minorities and irregularities, so yeah, nature fucking up.
and as i also said, some individuals still produce gametes, so belong to male or female by definition, depending on which gamete they are producing.
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it totally is though. sex is about sexual reproduction, which is based on a system of two gametes in all of mammalian biology at the very least. its different when you look at funghi for example
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but if you desperately want to have intersex people that dont produce gametes be described as "neither", fine. then we would have 3 sexes.
Added, those are still representing an enourmous amount of the population. And the minority of those characteristic is not a testimony of "anomalies" in nature but th testimony of a clear foundamental characteristic of the potential of sexual attributes and the fact that they are not fixated in only two categories.
We INVENTED the male and female categories. They are human CONSTRUCTIONS simply because we didn't care to look further. Now that we did, the definition of sex is expending. Its as simple as that. And the definition of the world health organisation about sex relect that:
"[...] sex, which refers to the different biological and physiological characteristics of females, males and intersex persons, such as chromosomes, hormones and reproductive organs."
There is really no reason to raise your shield against the expension of this definition. Unless of course you have other motives..
We INVENTED the male and female categories. They are human CONSTRUCTIONS simply because we didn't care to look further. Now that we did, the definition of sex is expending. Its as simple as that. And the definition of the world health organisation about sex relect that:
"[...] sex, which refers to the different biological and physiological characteristics of females, males and intersex persons, such as chromosomes, hormones and reproductive organs."
There is really no reason to raise your shield against the expension of this definition. Unless of course you have other motives..
Its fine if you want to count intersex as a third sex. I dont really, because there is no third gamete produced. But i guess i could agree with it basically being the "neither" option. For general mammalian biology, i dont think its relevant because they are rare disorders.
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YOU HATE ME AL! ADMIT IT!!!!!!!!!! 
IS that a gernman thing? I'm not familiar with it.
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You know what kinda slogans are even more cringe? "Rrofte shqiperia" and anything that involves praising the glorious ancestors and appropriating all sorts if historical personalities from random other countries.
You know what kinda slogans are even more cringe? "Rrofte shqiperia" and anything that involves praising the glorious ancestors and appropriating all sorts if historical personalities from random other countries.
