Yeah no dude.

Humans regulate themselves just well. They don't need Estate. In fact Estate was what allowed slavery to happen in most part of our history. And using even using religion to justify. That human regulation you are calling here.
Hard disagree. Violent hordes without laws don't "regulate themselves". They'll concquer other groups and turn them into slaves
 

AL sama

Red Haired
I agree.
When you create a small village the village is greedy outside and the opposite inside.
Any small community shares muxh more than wider human society.
We share with our friends but we hate sharing with the government.
I know solis won't understand but you tell me can you really imagine a world where everyone is satisfied with what they have without going for more??
 
I know solis won't but you tell me can you really imagine a world where everyone is satisfied with what they have without going for more??
Why are you changing the topic AL? This wasn't what we were talking about. You're aggressively pushing the narrative that humans are greedy and sociopathic by nature. What a pessimistic outlook on life!
 
I know solis won't understand but you tell me can you really imagine a world where everyone is satisfied with what they have without going for more??
It's a mixture for both, and why large conglomerate of humans create hierarchies.
It's a long topic, but i believe solis and you are both right.
Greed create communities that are much less greedy within.
A family is not greedy towards each other, aftwr all.
You would not steal from your father.
 
you need a reality check
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what I wrote: if humans went back to living in smaller self sufficient communities based on strong values, there would be a better life for everyone

what AL reads: "if humans went back to living in smaller self sufficient communities based on strong values, we can create an utopian Paradise on earth"

AL you can't deny that capitalistic society rewards anti social behavior and greed, children are taught to be consumers and to never be satisfied with what they have. Of course we are turning out greedy af! What are you expecting!? We are exposed to social engineering through television, movies, social media.
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There are people that really believe that ALL people won't be greed and will be ALWAYS satisfied, only because a new form of society emerged
This kind of thinking would be problematic. But I don't think this is what AL is talking about. He thinks ALL people are greedy pos
 
Many antifascist groups (antifa as avarage Americans refer to these groups) are vociferously authoritarian and anti free speech.
Hm no, not really as I'm an antifascist myself (just not the kind who use violence). Never heard about groups being against freespeech as being against freespeech would instantly put you into the authoritarian/far right/fascist territory.

Do you have specific examples ?


Of course I hate the woke
Ok, but WHY are you hating them ? This is the question that you must ask yourself.



another fantasy cause most humans are greedy by nature
And that's a myth, a essentialist one of top of that. Humans are not greedy by nature, greedyness is something that is aquired.


Without a stable society and string morals humans do be greedy and murderous af. That's why social rules and laws are a thing
Actually the reason social rules and laws exist is because we live in an unstable society where we do not yet understand all of our behaviors and how to change them. In a more stable society where we can acts on those behaviors and what creates them, those rules are not really that needed.

Simple example the law "do not steel" is needed in our capitalist society, because some people sometimes have to steel. Now, if you remove the need to steel or the reason that create the need to steel, there is no reasons to have a rule anymore.


To make them closer to reality*


They'll concquer other groups and turn them into slaves
The act of conquering is not written in our DNA. Its a social act that has social causes.


can you really imagine a world where everyone is satisfied with what they have without going for more
I can. Its possible if you try to imagine a world where wanting more is not needed.


You're aggressively pushing the narrative that humans are greedy and sociopathic by nature. What a pessimistic outlook on life!
And wrong on top of that. He is essentializing humanity. This is not how social behaviors work.
 
I saw a commie saying that. "A new kind of man will emerge and he won't be greedy".

Thats sound sooooo ontological...
Because you don't have the context of this sentence. The sentence plus the context should be:

"In the future, scientific researches, progressive politics and our willingness to evolve will allow humanity to understand how to act on causes that creates socially harming behaviors and will be able to remove the need for these behavior to arise and if necessary, prevent them from hurting people. Therefore, a new kind of human will emerge and he won't be greedy."



This is low key you confirming it:emohiyo:
Well yeah, and I'm not against free speech so this is a baseless accusation on antifascist... unless of course he has example of antifascist group being authoritarian.
 

AL sama

Red Haired
what I wrote: if humans went back to living in smaller self sufficient communities based on strong values, there would be a better life for everyone

what AL reads: "if humans went back to living in smaller self sufficient communities based on strong values, we can create an utopian Paradise on earth"

AL you can't deny that capitalistic society rewards anti social behavior and greed, children are taught to be consumers and to never be satisfied with what they have. Of course we are turning out greedy af! What are you expecting!? We are exposed to social engineering through television, movies, social media.
gonna take this out of context and say, a world where everyone is self sufficient is just fantasy unless everyone starts living alone
RIP english
 
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