Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1109 Spoilers Discussion
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I'll come clean here. I want the Gorosei+Imu to be the strongest force in the world just so every other agenda get absolutely obliterated, and if they are the strongest prior to the Final War, then this will further cement how idiotic the story of One Piece actually is as these old fucks could of destroyed all their opposition forever ago.
So you see my position of the Gorosenseis isn't simply agenda, but just to witness how far Oda wants the shark to jump.
So you see my position of the Gorosenseis isn't simply agenda, but just to witness how far Oda wants the shark to jump.
Dudes agenda is the Oda downfall agenda 😂😂😂😂
I knew something was off with you, no faith in the mangaka but oddly high on the geezers. Still, that's a wild answer.
I'll come clean here. I want the Gorosei+Imu to be the strongest force in the world just so every other agenda get absolutely obliterated, and if they are the strongest prior to the Final War, then this will further cement how idiotic the story of One Piece actually is as these old fucks could of destroyed all their opposition forever ago.
So you see my position of the Gorosenseis isn't simply agenda, but just to witness how far Oda wants the shark to jump.
So you see my position of the Gorosenseis isn't simply agenda, but just to witness how far Oda wants the shark to jump.
1. Paint pirates as evil (because some of them are)
2. Make themselves look like saints
3. Prevent others from revolting by believing in their cause.
So its necessarily that they just could have gotten up and crushed the opposition, its that they are trying to maintain the illusion of power full stop. This is actually WHY i think Shanks is fishy, he potentially maintains "peace" for them so that way the balance stays the equal. Though obviously he has some ulterior motives with Luffy which could be good or bad anyway.
Anyway, this only really changed once York gave them a fuel source that allows them to power their weapon to destroy full islands. Now they can obliterate opposition without anyone even knowing (except of course Sabo surviving lmao).
You can see here that at the Reverie is when the Gorosei decide to start talking about another "Great Cleansing" again, even including the fact that the Paramount War is factored into the decision, something Shanks tried to prevent. They specifically state that the worlds equilibrium cannot be maintained forever:
Tldr: The Gorosei not doing anything is by design, they were trying to maintain a balance of power to stay in true control
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Tbf, I dont think thats been their goal. The balance of power between Marines, Shichibukai and Yonko, imo, was made so that way they can:
1. Paint pirates as evil (because some of them are)
2. Make themselves look like saints
3. Prevent others from revolting by believing in their cause.
So its necessarily that they just could have gotten up and crushed the opposition, its that they are trying to maintain the illusion of power full stop. This is actually WHY i think Shanks is fishy, he potentially maintains "peace" for them so that way the balance stays the equal. Though obviously he has some ulterior motives with Luffy which could be good or bad anyway.
Anyway, this only really changed once York gave them a fuel source that allows them to power their weapon to destroy full islands. Now they can obliterate opposition without anyone even knowing (except of course Sabo surviving lmao).
You can see here that at the Reverie is when the Gorosei decide to start talking about another "Great Cleansing" again, even including the fact that the Paramount War is factored into the decision, something Shanks tried to prevent. They specifically state that the worlds equilibrium cannot be maintained forever:
Tldr: The Gorosei not doing anything is by design, they were trying to maintain a balance of power to stay in true control
1. Paint pirates as evil (because some of them are)
2. Make themselves look like saints
3. Prevent others from revolting by believing in their cause.
So its necessarily that they just could have gotten up and crushed the opposition, its that they are trying to maintain the illusion of power full stop. This is actually WHY i think Shanks is fishy, he potentially maintains "peace" for them so that way the balance stays the equal. Though obviously he has some ulterior motives with Luffy which could be good or bad anyway.
Anyway, this only really changed once York gave them a fuel source that allows them to power their weapon to destroy full islands. Now they can obliterate opposition without anyone even knowing (except of course Sabo surviving lmao).
You can see here that at the Reverie is when the Gorosei decide to start talking about another "Great Cleansing" again, even including the fact that the Paramount War is factored into the decision, something Shanks tried to prevent. They specifically state that the worlds equilibrium cannot be maintained forever:
Tldr: The Gorosei not doing anything is by design, they were trying to maintain a balance of power to stay in true control
Tbf, I dont think thats been their goal. The balance of power between Marines, Shichibukai and Yonko, imo, was made so that way they can:
1. Paint pirates as evil (because some of them are)
2. Make themselves look like saints
3. Prevent others from revolting by believing in their cause.
So its necessarily that they just could have gotten up and crushed the opposition, its that they are trying to maintain the illusion of power full stop. This is actually WHY i think Shanks is fishy, he potentially maintains "peace" for them so that way the balance stays the equal. Though obviously he has some ulterior motives with Luffy which could be good or bad anyway.
Anyway, this only really changed once York gave them a fuel source that allows them to power their weapon to destroy full islands. Now they can obliterate opposition without anyone even knowing (except of course Sabo surviving lmao).
You can see here that at the Reverie is when the Gorosei decide to start talking about another "Great Cleansing" again, even including the fact that the Paramount War is factored into the decision, something Shanks tried to prevent. They specifically state that the worlds equilibrium cannot be maintained forever:
Tldr: The Gorosei not doing anything is by design, they were trying to maintain a balance of power to stay in true control
1. Paint pirates as evil (because some of them are)
2. Make themselves look like saints
3. Prevent others from revolting by believing in their cause.
So its necessarily that they just could have gotten up and crushed the opposition, its that they are trying to maintain the illusion of power full stop. This is actually WHY i think Shanks is fishy, he potentially maintains "peace" for them so that way the balance stays the equal. Though obviously he has some ulterior motives with Luffy which could be good or bad anyway.
Anyway, this only really changed once York gave them a fuel source that allows them to power their weapon to destroy full islands. Now they can obliterate opposition without anyone even knowing (except of course Sabo surviving lmao).
You can see here that at the Reverie is when the Gorosei decide to start talking about another "Great Cleansing" again, even including the fact that the Paramount War is factored into the decision, something Shanks tried to prevent. They specifically state that the worlds equilibrium cannot be maintained forever:
Tldr: The Gorosei not doing anything is by design, they were trying to maintain a balance of power to stay in true control
If not given reason to act, they would 100% keep the balance of power rather than destroyng their opposition.
They want that opposition, probably as a escape goat, to a certain degree.
non named civilian deaths don't matter lol
Lulusia got nuked. Did any of us in the fandom sing oda's praise for that?
He gotta first stop fake-out deaths and bringing back people he gave great/good endings to.
I don't think most of the fandom believes punk is completely dead 100% lol. You just can't tell with oda.
Lulusia got nuked. Did any of us in the fandom sing oda's praise for that?
He gotta first stop fake-out deaths and bringing back people he gave great/good endings to.
I don't think most of the fandom believes punk is completely dead 100% lol. You just can't tell with oda.
Nah I'm pretty sure he's truly dead, when you have Saturn saying he saw Kizaru kill Vegapunk, then you have the Elders say that his death probably triggered the brodcast.
You also had the whole heart monitor that stopped after Kizaru stabbed Vegapunk with his laser.
Also Oda is specifically only showing Vegapunk, Shaka, and Pythagoras on the screen.
None of the other Satellites appear with Vegapunk on the screen, he is only showing the three Vegapunks that died.
I mean I get why some might believe he is still alive because Oda is known to do many fake out deaths, but I don't believe this is a fake out death, and imo this chapter confirms that Vegapunk is dead.
You also had the whole heart monitor that stopped after Kizaru stabbed Vegapunk with his laser.
Also Oda is specifically only showing Vegapunk, Shaka, and Pythagoras on the screen.
None of the other Satellites appear with Vegapunk on the screen, he is only showing the three Vegapunks that died.
I mean I get why some might believe he is still alive because Oda is known to do many fake out deaths, but I don't believe this is a fake out death, and imo this chapter confirms that Vegapunk is dead.
I think all four will end up surviving, I feel like if Oda was going to kill off another one then he would have killed off one or two more before killing the main Vegapunk.
Lilith, Atlas, and Edison will most likely play a role during Elbaf, and as for York I guess she will go with the World Government.
Lilith, Atlas, and Edison will most likely play a role during Elbaf, and as for York I guess she will go with the World Government.
Tbf, I dont think thats been their goal. The balance of power between Marines, Shichibukai and Yonko, imo, was made so that way they can:
1. Paint pirates as evil (because some of them are)
2. Make themselves look like saints
3. Prevent others from revolting by believing in their cause.
So its necessarily that they just could have gotten up and crushed the opposition, its that they are trying to maintain the illusion of power full stop. This is actually WHY i think Shanks is fishy, he potentially maintains "peace" for them so that way the balance stays the equal. Though obviously he has some ulterior motives with Luffy which could be good or bad anyway.
Anyway, this only really changed once York gave them a fuel source that allows them to power their weapon to destroy full islands. Now they can obliterate opposition without anyone even knowing (except of course Sabo surviving lmao).
You can see here that at the Reverie is when the Gorosei decide to start talking about another "Great Cleansing" again, even including the fact that the Paramount War is factored into the decision, something Shanks tried to prevent. They specifically state that the worlds equilibrium cannot be maintained forever:
Tldr: The Gorosei not doing anything is by design, they were trying to maintain a balance of power to stay in true control
1. Paint pirates as evil (because some of them are)
2. Make themselves look like saints
3. Prevent others from revolting by believing in their cause.
So its necessarily that they just could have gotten up and crushed the opposition, its that they are trying to maintain the illusion of power full stop. This is actually WHY i think Shanks is fishy, he potentially maintains "peace" for them so that way the balance stays the equal. Though obviously he has some ulterior motives with Luffy which could be good or bad anyway.
Anyway, this only really changed once York gave them a fuel source that allows them to power their weapon to destroy full islands. Now they can obliterate opposition without anyone even knowing (except of course Sabo surviving lmao).
You can see here that at the Reverie is when the Gorosei decide to start talking about another "Great Cleansing" again, even including the fact that the Paramount War is factored into the decision, something Shanks tried to prevent. They specifically state that the worlds equilibrium cannot be maintained forever:
Tldr: The Gorosei not doing anything is by design, they were trying to maintain a balance of power to stay in true control
The balance of power was already flawed as most of the Warlords were moreso hindrances than they were of any actual use to the World Government. Hell, the one time the World Government called for their assistance, most of them were outright fighting against the government itself, and Mihawk was playing around with Luffy for the majorityof the war.
If the World Government ultimately wanted absolute control, and had the capability to do so, they could of simply wipe out any actual threats, and prop up actual small time pirates as seemingly massive dangers to the common civilian.
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