Controversial General Political Discussion

[Jesse Pinkman]

What are they ducking?

Do you know that every “crime” he's been indicted on every president done before him?

The problem is its him and republicans don't like him either, it is the working class Americans do they've fault hard against him the entire time, but they are only falling in line behind him because that's who the people support because they are tired of the two party system that as screwed them over. So if they don't get behind him they will lose their base.

The amount of charges on Trump eclipses every other president that’s hard truth .

His dubious business dealing I might add more links here . I don’t think any living president has charges like him . (Link me if I am wrong again)

I was talking about voters when talked about ducking they simply don’t care because they are biased to their leaning which is alright .

 

[Zemmi]

The amount of charges on Trump eclipses every other president that’s hard truth .

His dubious business dealing I might add more links here . I don’t think any living president has charges like him .

I was talking about voters when talked about ducking they simply don’t care because they are biased to their leaning which is alright .

What has been dubious is the charges. Most normal people or presidents would've never been charged with the things he has. That is why Americans are so upset.

Like the overestimating the value of his property, it's a normal occurrence. Everyone does it and that why they have a waiver in the documents that say the bank is responsible for evaluating the properties themselves to make sure that is the value with appraisals. The bank decided not to, because they trusted Trump was good for the money and he was everyone made money. Everyone was happy. There was no victims, it was a witch hunt.
This I can speak on to be truth because banks don't take us on our words and when the clause passes them they send an appraiser lol that we have to pay for xD

 

[Roo]

Who cares about your feelings? You have to look at evidences and all the evidence says Jan 6 was not an insurrection. A bunch of unarmed people walking into a building, with the guards standing aside, and destroyed nothing, isn't an insurrection by definition. They deleted Trump's tweets and videos trying to de-escalate as well.

Insurrections don’t have to be violent, the south literally initially seceded peacefully and the insurrection act was passed because of it.

there’s also tons of evidence of trump egging the protesters on. He only told them to go home after the fact

 

[Zenos7]

meh

lmfao. maybe you should watch more of it before you make such bold ass (shitty) claim

 

[Zemmi]

I think what people are missing if it wasn't for the bs charges trump has been accused of we wouldn't be having these discussions because Trump would not be the nominee what has made him the nominee is reasonable people seeing through the entire prosecution of political opponent. I remember when I found out he was going to run again I came out to my family I wouldn't be supporting him, but here we are.

 

[Logiko]

Who cares about your feelings? You have to look at evidences and all the evidence says Jan 6 was not an insurrection.

Aww.. now its Van defending Trump and his"absolutely non incitement of issurection"... who would've thought ?

lmfao. maybe you should watch more of it before you make such bold ass (shitty) claim

Nah its really not that funny

 

[Zenos7]

I didn't say "jokes" I said jokes targetting oppressed people. In one way or another its political. I can mean that you don't care about the impact of the joke or it can mean that you do.

im not digging the last pages to find your post, but im pretty sure you said that lmao.

and well its not political at all. and wouldnt jokes against people in power also be political by this "logic"?

they make different jokes that would entail mutually exclusive political ideas, so yeah no. thats not happening. you are just too serious about jokes when they are, well. . . . jokes.

edit: doesnt mean there arent political jokes though, obviously. the german comedian i talked about earlier is mostly doing political jokes.

 

[Roo]

I think what people are missing if it wasn't for the bs charges trump has been accused of we wouldn't be having these discussions because Trump would not be the nominee what has made him the nominee is reasonable people seeing through the entire prosecution of political opponent. I remember when I found out he was going to run again I came out to my family I wouldn't be supporting him, but here we are.

So you change your politician opinion because he’s being charged?

you mean to tell me he hasn’t done anything and still gained your vote? At this point you’re just being a contrarian

 

[Uncle Van]

Insurrections don’t have to be violent, the south literally initially seceded peacefully and the insurrection act was passed because of it.

there’s also tons of evidence of trump egging the protesters on. He only told them to go home after the fact

Obviously he egged them on. He was the one who told them to protest at the capital in the first place. Bottom line is that he tried multiple times to calm down and they suppressed him, and tried making Jan 6 look like the most violent insurrection in history. The lady who got trampled? One news outlet said she was shot and another said she was beaten to death. They were grossly exaggerating and relying on half the country hating Trump.

 

[Zenos7]

Damn.. you are defending Trump now ? Really, you don't surprise me more and more everyday.

And you don't understand why I put you on the right side...

I don't need to explain anything. It was an incetement of inssurection, period.

correcting you/calling out your lies =/= defending trump.

i do understand why you put me on the right. because you are an ignorant, generalizing nutjob.

and well if you make a claim and dont care enough to back it up, dont be surprised at people dismissing your claim.

 

[Roo]

Obviously he egged them on. He was the one who told them to protest at the capital in the first place. Bottom line is that he tried multiple times to calm down and they suppressed him, and tried making Jan 6 look like the most violent insurrection in history. The lady who got trampled? One news outlet said she was shot and another said she was beaten to death. They were grossly exaggerating and relying on half the country hating Trump.

That’s what the media does, embellish shit. Doesn’t change the fact that it was very well an insurrection since all the evidence points to Donald Trump wanting to change the results of the election

 

[Zenos7]

They deleted Trump's tweets and videos trying to de-escalate as well.

wasnt even aware of that. just knew he was still speaking and telling mofos to be peaceful.

 

[Zemmi]

So you change your politician opinion because he’s being charged?

you mean to tell me he hasn’t done anything and still gained your vote? At this point you’re just being a contrarian

I voted for him in 2020, I loved his financial policies and the fact that he wasn't a warmonger. I did not vote for in 2016.

I didn't support him this time around because I found him to be divisive and he's not great with words, but great with policy. So I wanted a trump but without a trump mouth.

I changed my stance because I trust him with the US economy and that I really can't stand to watch what his opponents (including republicans) are doing him.

 

[Uncle Van]

That’s what the media does, embellish shit. Doesn’t change the fact that it was very well an insurrection since all the evidence points to Donald Trump wanting to change the results of the election

Obviously he wanted to do so. Wasn't he very verbal about it since day 1? It's really no different from how they claimed Obama's win was illegitimate because he "wasn't American", and how the democratic party bitched for 4 years straight on how Trump used Russia to win 2016? Have you forgotten that? It's just hypocrites and lies all around.

 

[Zenos7]

Nah its really not that funny

thats fine if you think that. i think its super funny. and pretty sure its the most popular dad jokes channel out there. the jokes are hit or miss though, because sometimes they just present random jokes they found on the internet or from friends or something.

 

[Roo]

I voted for him in 2020, I loved his financial policies and the fact that he wasn't a warmonger. I did not vote for in 2016.

I didn't support him this time around because I found him to be divisive and he's not great with words, but great with policy. So I wanted a trump but without a trump mouth.

I changed my stance because I trust him with the US economy and that I really can't stand to watch what his opponents (including republicans) are doing him.

So again, he did nothing to gain your vote but instead you’re voting him out of spite for our legal system which has nothing to do with our current president?

 

[Zenos7]

So you change your politician opinion because he’s being charged?

you mean to tell me he hasn’t done anything and still gained your vote? At this point you’re just being a contrarian

its a real conundrum for muricans that they only have 2 garbage options.

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They were grossly exaggerating and relying on half the country hating Trump.

half the country hating trumps gut to the maximum was the medias fault anyway. the amount of lies they pushed was literally insane. and its especially weird since you dont need to lie about trump and his nonsense to criticize him anyway.

 

[Roo]

Obviously he wanted to do so. Wasn't he very verbal about it since day 1? It's really no different from how they claimed Obama's win was illegitimate because he "wasn't American", and how the democratic party bitched for 4 years straight on how Trump used Russia to win 2016? Have you forgotten that? It's just hypocrites and lies all around.

I fail to see how these are remotely the same. Hilary took the L on election night and while Russiagate was annoying, there was proof of tampering when it came to our election. What wasn’t proven was that Trump was aligned with the Russians and colluded.

again it’s not really the same since Hilary conceded and did not call for people to overturn the election

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

What has been dubious is the charges. Most normal people or presidents would've never been charged with the things he has. That is why Americans are so upset.

Like the overestimating the value of his property, it's a normal occurrence. Everyone does it and that why they have a waiver in the documents that say the bank is responsible for evaluating the properties themselves to make sure that is the value with appraisals. The bank decided not to, because they trusted Trump was good for the money and he was everyone made money. Everyone was happy. There was no victims, it was a witch hunt.
This I can speak on to be truth because banks don't take us on our words and when the clause passes them they send an appraiser lol that we have to pay for xD

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-05-18/trump-business-partners-outline-his-failed-deals

I just add the link here if you still think he is innocent by any standard can’t help it .

 

[Zemmi]

So again, he did nothing to gain your vote but instead you’re voting him out of spite for our legal system which has nothing to do with our current president?

I'm not sure where the disconnect is. I love his policies and he's not a warmonger. The support shifted more and more to him with the general voters so he became the nominee. So here I am supporting him because there was no one who could beat him after some point.

I'm voting for him because I'm going to be able to pay my bills and feed my kids again. That's reason enough.