Controversial General Political Discussion

[Zenos7]

Nah its really not that funny

thats fine if you think that. i think its super funny. and pretty sure its the most popular dad jokes channel out there. the jokes are hit or miss though, because sometimes they just present random jokes they found on the internet or from friends or something.

 

[Roo]

I voted for him in 2020, I loved his financial policies and the fact that he wasn't a warmonger. I did not vote for in 2016.

I didn't support him this time around because I found him to be divisive and he's not great with words, but great with policy. So I wanted a trump but without a trump mouth.

I changed my stance because I trust him with the US economy and that I really can't stand to watch what his opponents (including republicans) are doing him.

So again, he did nothing to gain your vote but instead you’re voting him out of spite for our legal system which has nothing to do with our current president?

 

[Zenos7]

So you change your politician opinion because he’s being charged?

you mean to tell me he hasn’t done anything and still gained your vote? At this point you’re just being a contrarian

its a real conundrum for muricans that they only have 2 garbage options.
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They were grossly exaggerating and relying on half the country hating Trump.

half the country hating trumps gut to the maximum was the medias fault anyway. the amount of lies they pushed was literally insane. and its especially weird since you dont need to lie about trump and his nonsense to criticize him anyway.

 

[Roo]

Obviously he wanted to do so. Wasn't he very verbal about it since day 1? It's really no different from how they claimed Obama's win was illegitimate because he "wasn't American", and how the democratic party bitched for 4 years straight on how Trump used Russia to win 2016? Have you forgotten that? It's just hypocrites and lies all around.

I fail to see how these are remotely the same. Hilary took the L on election night and while Russiagate was annoying, there was proof of tampering when it came to our election. What wasn’t proven was that Trump was aligned with the Russians and colluded.

again it’s not really the same since Hilary conceded and did not call for people to overturn the election

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

What has been dubious is the charges. Most normal people or presidents would've never been charged with the things he has. That is why Americans are so upset.

Like the overestimating the value of his property, it's a normal occurrence. Everyone does it and that why they have a waiver in the documents that say the bank is responsible for evaluating the properties themselves to make sure that is the value with appraisals. The bank decided not to, because they trusted Trump was good for the money and he was everyone made money. Everyone was happy. There was no victims, it was a witch hunt.
This I can speak on to be truth because banks don't take us on our words and when the clause passes them they send an appraiser lol that we have to pay for xD

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-05-18/trump-business-partners-outline-his-failed-deals

I just add the link here if you still think he is innocent by any standard can’t help it .

 

[Zemmi]

So again, he did nothing to gain your vote but instead you’re voting him out of spite for our legal system which has nothing to do with our current president?

I'm not sure where the disconnect is. I love his policies and he's not a warmonger. The support shifted more and more to him with the general voters so he became the nominee. So here I am supporting him because there was no one who could beat him after some point.

I'm voting for him because I'm going to be able to pay my bills and feed my kids again. That's reason enough.

 

[Roo]

its a real conundrum for muricans that they only have 2 garbage options.

it’s still a retarded way of thinking. Changing your political option out of spite? Lmao

 

[Zemmi]

it’s still a retarded way of thinking. Changing your political option out of spite? Lmao

Wait. I never said I was ever planning on voting for Biden if you are thinking that. I would never vote for that racist joke of a human being.

 

[Roo]

I'm not sure where the disconnect is. I love his policies and he's not a warmonger. The support shifted more and more to him with the general voters so he became the nominee. So here I am supporting him because there was no one who could beat him after some point.

I'm voting for him because I'm going to be able to pay my bills and feed my kids again. That's reason enough.

Not a warmonger? The man who’s literally calling for Israel to eliminate Palestine? The man who killed Iran’s top general?

LMAO

So now you’re saying you shifted your political opinions because the public did? Again it’s showing your lack of political basis. I know most people are very shallow voters, but I expect someone in the political thread to have a better formed political grounding

 

[Zemmi]

Not a warmonger? The man who’s literally calling for Israel to eliminate Palestine? The man who killed Iran’s top general?

LMAO

So now you’re saying you shifted your political opinions because the public did? Again it’s showing your lack of political basis. I know most people are very shallow voters, but I expect someone in the political thread to have a better formed political grounding

How did I shift, if I was always going to end up voting for the republican nominee?

 

[Roo]

Wait. I never said I was ever planning on voting for Biden if you are thinking that. I would never vote for that racist joke of a human being.

You said you weren’t voting for trump then said you were. Let’s stick to that. Obviously anybody with a brain should’ve seen Biden being the nominee as a likely possibility

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Insurrections don’t have to be violent, the south literally initially seceded peacefully and the insurrection act was passed because of it.

there’s also tons of evidence of trump egging the protesters on. He only told them to go home after the fact

Trump egged them initially but later told his protestor on twitter to calm down . But it’s true Dorsey was biased in his leaning and banned him .

 

[Roo]

How did I shift, if I was always going to end up voting for the republican nominee?

Then change your original post. You said you weren’t going to vote for trump, that would obviously imply even if he became the nominee

 

[Zemmi]

You said you weren’t voting for trump then said you were. Let’s stick to that. Obviously anybody with a brain should’ve seen Biden being the nominee as a likely possibility

You know there is a thing called primaries and that is where I didn't plan to support him. You are funny.

What's up with people here changing my words to fit their narratives lol.

 

[Roo]

You know there is a thing called primaries and that is where I didn't plan to support him. You are funny.

What's up with people here changing my words to fit their narratives lol.

No Its called being able to read

if I as a democrat say I’m not voting for Biden, that clearly implies to matter what happens I won’t vote for him. Both in primaries and the presidential elections

learn to type your thoughts better

 

[Uncle Van]

2020 peopl3 didn't vote for Biden, but against Trump. 2024 looks to be the same except they switched roles. Biden had a shit track record, is 82 years old with dementia, has a crack head son, and has to live abother 4 years. If he dies in office then Kamala Harris takes over and she's a damn joke.

If Trump wins, he can't run for 2028 cause he would've already served 2 terms.

 

[Zenos7]

it’s still a retarded way of thinking. Changing your political option out of spite? Lmao

yeah, i guess one could just not vote at all.

 

[Logiko]

im not digging the last pages to find your post, but im pretty sure you said that lmao.

You and every people on this forum should know by now that I'm always very careful about the words I use. Especially because I'm not in conquered land :

I'm not criticizing the fact of laughing at jokes. I'm criticizing the fact of targeting minorities and oppressed people for jokes.

wouldnt jokes against people in power also be political by this "logic"?

Yes totally. Most humor is political. Just like stories. That the point I made at the very beginning of this discussion.

you are just too serious about jokes when they are, well. . . . jokes.

And maybe people are not enough serious about it.. and think that humor has no impact on reality.

correcting you/calling out your lies =/= defending trump.

You should know that there is always a political reason behind the fact of correcting people about political event.

And no, you are not correcting anything. It was indeed an incitement of inssurection. A midly violent one but still one nonetheless.

because you are an ignorant, generalizing nutjob.

No. Just because you have a lot of pattern of a rightist. Anyone leftist analyzing the way you speak can see that you are not on their side.

dont be surprised at people dismissing your claim.

THat's if I'm surprised... I'm not. lol

We are in on liberal forum that give enable rightist and conservatist, its logical that a lot of people defend Trump.

 

[Roo]

yeah, i guess one could just not vote at all.

exactly

If I say I’m not voting for Biden, that means no matter what he’s not getting my vote. If I also hate trump I could either vote 3rd party or abstain

That’s what a bunch of neverbidens did last election

 

[Zenos7]

has a crack head son

why is this relevant though?
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And maybe people are not enough serious about it.. and think that humor has no impact on reality.

depends on the humor. some of it is political, some of it isnt. you are just generalizing