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Ok. Since its calm here, I will come back on a few things that have been said during the last week, because I won't feel good if I say nothing. I've a new TOOL now.. so its should be a little bit easier.
And since I'm talking about it. I added a new video to the library. This should make you understand why leftists, feminist and LGBTI+ militants are actually not really appreciating the "woke caricatures" in medias:
THIS VIDEO should make you understand why, while muslims are indeed not a race, they are considered sociologically as a racialized group.
You will find more ressources about the systemic oppression of muslim and "Islamophobia" HERE.
The reason is simple. The fear of Islam and the assimilation of Islamist actions to all Muslims. The fear of creating mosquees coming from new atheists like Dawkins or the far right is based on this. And this particular hate is based on the racist complotist theory of the "great replacement" - once a antisemitic theory, now an islamophobic one. The new atheists are simply following the toxic weaknesses of their ideology being a big lack of understanding for the political reality of the world and therefore a great deal of ignorance about sociology, minorities and the place of religion in all of this.
There would be no surprise if Dawkins and Cie start to ally themselves with far right personnalities in the future. It would be a logical continuation of their path.
Interesting. I predict you becoming an anarcho-communist in the next decade or so if you get rid of your political biases. I might be wrong, but you seems to be motivated enough to search and understand the reality of meritocracy in the near future which should be rocketing you directly toward this specific ideology.
Aaaannnd the light is gone. Yes they do. In fact most Israelian are raised in a systemic hatred of Palestinians. You might wanna search about the way Israel educate young people about the nature and rights of Palestinians mate. I don't think you really understanding correctly who is educating who in a fascist way...
Please watch THIS VIDEO and you should understand the surface of the problem
A genocide is not the act of eleminating necessary the entire group, a genocide can be done on a very specific number of people.
Please read and PAY ATTENTION to the definition of THIS LINK to understand why you are saying nonsence.
Yes it is. Racial slurs are the language manifestation of racism (or the fight against it, if we talk about the use of the N world of black people)
There were a lot of nations and therefore forms of gouvernments. The fact that Abya Yala! was the considered the propriety of all doesn't change the fact that the europeean accaparated the land by force without permission and forced slavery and migrations on people thus creating multiple ethnical cleansing and a genocide.
70 Millions of people were decimated. ALL OVER ABYA YALA!
Let's not forget about them
Recently is a relative term. The migration in Europe started around 45000 years ago while there are traces of population in America as soon as 30000 years ago.
More info HERE and HERE (its not the library, that's just basic anthropology)
So this is really no reason to bring this up when we are talking about the genocide of the natives by Europeans.
Interesting. I predict you becoming an anarcho-communist in the next decade or so if you get rid of your political biases. I might be wrong, but you seems to be motivated enough to search and understand the reality of meritocracy in the near future which should be rocketing you directly toward this specific ideology.
In reality the number vary largerly between researchs (sometime around 50 Millions, sometimes well over 100 M people). This is why I would be more enclined to follow the WORK of Moema Viezzer and Marcelo grondin that demonstrate through the use of mutliple researches that there were at least 70 MILLIONS out of (82 Millions) people killed or purposefully contaminated (and killed) during the genocide of the colonization of Abya Yala!
And there were between 70 and 75 Millions of people in Europe in between 1492 and 1650. So technically, there were more people in the big continent than in Europe.
But 50 or 100 Millions wouldn't change the fact that:
- This was the biggest genocide in history
- This was done by Europpean who appropriated something that wasn't theirs
Step 1: Eradicate and genocide almost the entirerity of the population of a territory
Step 2 : Notice that the eradication created a huge human-free landmass
Step 3: Claim the "uninhabited land"
Ladies and gentlemen... The European way
You really have a good economical and historical knowledge and you understand the problem with republicans, conservative and liberals. I really don't understand why you keep believing in meritocracy and have still not turned woke/full leftist yet.
You are sooooooooo close
And since I'm talking about it. I added a new video to the library. This should make you understand why leftists, feminist and LGBTI+ militants are actually not really appreciating the "woke caricatures" in medias:
THIS VIDEO should make you understand why, while muslims are indeed not a race, they are considered sociologically as a racialized group.
You will find more ressources about the systemic oppression of muslim and "Islamophobia" HERE.
The reason is simple. The fear of Islam and the assimilation of Islamist actions to all Muslims. The fear of creating mosquees coming from new atheists like Dawkins or the far right is based on this. And this particular hate is based on the racist complotist theory of the "great replacement" - once a antisemitic theory, now an islamophobic one. The new atheists are simply following the toxic weaknesses of their ideology being a big lack of understanding for the political reality of the world and therefore a great deal of ignorance about sociology, minorities and the place of religion in all of this.
There would be no surprise if Dawkins and Cie start to ally themselves with far right personnalities in the future. It would be a logical continuation of their path.
Interesting. I predict you becoming an anarcho-communist in the next decade or so if you get rid of your political biases. I might be wrong, but you seems to be motivated enough to search and understand the reality of meritocracy in the near future which should be rocketing you directly toward this specific ideology.
Aaaannnd the light is gone. Yes they do. In fact most Israelian are raised in a systemic hatred of Palestinians. You might wanna search about the way Israel educate young people about the nature and rights of Palestinians mate. I don't think you really understanding correctly who is educating who in a fascist way...
Please watch THIS VIDEO and you should understand the surface of the problem
A genocide is not the act of eleminating necessary the entire group, a genocide can be done on a very specific number of people.
Please read and PAY ATTENTION to the definition of THIS LINK to understand why you are saying nonsence.
Yes it is. Racial slurs are the language manifestation of racism (or the fight against it, if we talk about the use of the N world of black people)
There were a lot of nations and therefore forms of gouvernments. The fact that Abya Yala! was the considered the propriety of all doesn't change the fact that the europeean accaparated the land by force without permission and forced slavery and migrations on people thus creating multiple ethnical cleansing and a genocide.
70 Millions of people were decimated. ALL OVER ABYA YALA!
Let's not forget about them
Recently is a relative term. The migration in Europe started around 45000 years ago while there are traces of population in America as soon as 30000 years ago.
More info HERE and HERE (its not the library, that's just basic anthropology)
So this is really no reason to bring this up when we are talking about the genocide of the natives by Europeans.
Interesting. I predict you becoming an anarcho-communist in the next decade or so if you get rid of your political biases. I might be wrong, but you seems to be motivated enough to search and understand the reality of meritocracy in the near future which should be rocketing you directly toward this specific ideology.
In reality the number vary largerly between researchs (sometime around 50 Millions, sometimes well over 100 M people). This is why I would be more enclined to follow the WORK of Moema Viezzer and Marcelo grondin that demonstrate through the use of mutliple researches that there were at least 70 MILLIONS out of (82 Millions) people killed or purposefully contaminated (and killed) during the genocide of the colonization of Abya Yala!
And there were between 70 and 75 Millions of people in Europe in between 1492 and 1650. So technically, there were more people in the big continent than in Europe.
But 50 or 100 Millions wouldn't change the fact that:
- This was the biggest genocide in history
- This was done by Europpean who appropriated something that wasn't theirs
Step 1: Eradicate and genocide almost the entirerity of the population of a territory
Step 2 : Notice that the eradication created a huge human-free landmass
Step 3: Claim the "uninhabited land"
Ladies and gentlemen... The European way
You really have a good economical and historical knowledge and you understand the problem with republicans, conservative and liberals. I really don't understand why you keep believing in meritocracy and have still not turned woke/full leftist yet.
You are sooooooooo close
We are not talking only about Europe. Muslims are oppressed all over the world.
Well.. if you want to stop being transpphobe. yeah. You might wanna do that since its happening already
I'm just getting the number right here. Its important, especially when we are talking about this part of history.
Well.. if you want to stop being transpphobe. yeah. You might wanna do that since its happening already
I'm just getting the number right here. Its important, especially when we are talking about this part of history.
People gotta consider that Israel is pumping out a ton of cash to countries to push Pro-Israel and Anti-Hamas propaganda. The usual story is that terrorist Hamas attacked Israel first in October 2023, so Israel is simply fighting back against a terrorist group. The propaganda agenda is so strong that the US is trying to ban Tik Tok, and took less than a week to vote on the decision(lightning fast cooperation damn). They claim its owned by China when it's actually in Singapore, so the US can't regulate the content. Majority of the Israel-Palestine content is pro-Palestine with a majority young viewership.
With such propaganda and Government effort(corruption)to push it, you can't be surprised that people believe Hamas are pure terrorists that need to be stopped. Claiming those who buy the propaganda love seeing innocent people get genocided is very disingenuous.
With such propaganda and Government effort(corruption)to push it, you can't be surprised that people believe Hamas are pure terrorists that need to be stopped. Claiming those who buy the propaganda love seeing innocent people get genocided is very disingenuous.
This very specific thing is the reason why this ideology (and belief) is so powerfull in the first place. People who don't believe in meritocracy don't say what you said:
- We understand that our path are conditionned by socials structures and society
- We understand that in our current society we don't have this "power to improve ourself" and that sky is not the limit
- We understand that rejecting both previous statement is a way to justify meritocracy and the myth of will/spirit over matter (I want therefore I can)
So yes. Based on that sentence, I can say that you still believe in meritocracy.
In fact, if I'm not mistaken "terrorist" has no value in international right.
The Hamas did a war crime, no one is denying that, but calling it a terrorist organization in the context of resistance against colonization (even if they are foudnamentalist) is just a nonsense.
No, I said that the great replacement theory is at the origin of the christchurch massacre.
Again, can a moderator do something about that ?
- We understand that our path are conditionned by socials structures and society
- We understand that in our current society we don't have this "power to improve ourself" and that sky is not the limit
- We understand that rejecting both previous statement is a way to justify meritocracy and the myth of will/spirit over matter (I want therefore I can)
So yes. Based on that sentence, I can say that you still believe in meritocracy.
In fact, if I'm not mistaken "terrorist" has no value in international right.
The Hamas did a war crime, no one is denying that, but calling it a terrorist organization in the context of resistance against colonization (even if they are foudnamentalist) is just a nonsense.
No, I said that the great replacement theory is at the origin of the christchurch massacre.
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Because we also have video of Israelian killing Palestianian in cold blood.
In fact, that Oven story in reality happened TWICE.. but NOT against Israelians, but against Palestinians by Isralien.
- Once in 1948 during the
- The other (if I'm not mistaken) in 1982
Israelian actually took those stories and used desinformation to dehumanize the action of Hamas.
So.. if Hamas are terrorists, what about the gov of Israel actually using massive bombing and dehumanization processes to justify an ethnical cleansing and a colonization ?
In fact, that Oven story in reality happened TWICE.. but NOT against Israelians, but against Palestinians by Isralien.
- Once in 1948 during the
- The other (if I'm not mistaken) in 1982
Israelian actually took those stories and used desinformation to dehumanize the action of Hamas.
So.. if Hamas are terrorists, what about the gov of Israel actually using massive bombing and dehumanization processes to justify an ethnical cleansing and a colonization ?
I m not gonna defend hamas as they do some heinous things but my point is that the countries that sees hamas as a terrorist group don't even cover half the world
not to mention israel isn't innocent either and in a war we can't really judge any side cause they all have their fair share of good and bad deeds
not to mention israel isn't innocent either and in a war we can't really judge any side cause they all have their fair share of good and bad deeds
lol this is whataboutism then? If you have to say “but but what about” something then your arguments aren’t strong enough to stand on their own
here I’ll drop the definition of terrorism for you;
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
If what you’re saying is true, and the goal was to further a political gain? Then yes, Israel committed terrorist acts. I know for sure they did prior to the establishment of the state
The labeling of terrorist organizations by world leaders all depend on the relationship with said organization tbf. I think at some point the U.S refused to call the Afghan Mujahideen a terrorist organization and ironically the Al-Qaueda spawn from that.
I’m more focused on what he said. Because Hamas is fighting “colonization” they’re not terrorist. Like um no, you can still commit terrorist acts lol
here I’ll drop the definition of terrorism for you;
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
If what you’re saying is true, and the goal was to further a political gain? Then yes, Israel committed terrorist acts. I know for sure they did prior to the establishment of the state
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The labeling of terrorist organizations by world leaders all depend on the relationship with said organization tbf. I think at some point the U.S refused to call the Afghan Mujahideen a terrorist organization and ironically the Al-Qaueda spawn from that.
I’m more focused on what he said. Because Hamas is fighting “colonization” they’re not terrorist. Like um no, you can still commit terrorist acts lol