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kizaru can’t take a punch so he has to run around n spam his 2hp damaging laser beams to stand a chance
Sure... I am not a fan of pizza roll lmao


But atleast he's not a situational top tier who needs food to get back into top tier once again lol
 

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He was literally talking to the other Gorosei in his head and then when hes had enough of them blew them all away and Robin caught them lol. Its in the manga brother.

Also Oda nerfed him by having him forget he can freeze people and eye explode them lol.
Aura lost completely. The minute he went for Robin the weakhats should not be able to delay him for even a microsecond. It's unfortunate.

It's terrible cause like you said he had that freeze ability too, Oda just making them look bad.
 
The hell are you talking about
Where did you see me away they lack hybrid forms?

Awakened forms > hybrid forms when it comes to which form is stronger
Lucci, luffy, ...all are at their peak when using awakened mode

When did you see zoan form have dark clouds and awakened features around it?

If they can't be great at their peak (awakened state) ,then they simply suck
Youre thinking their fruits work the same way others do.
 
"The Gorosei are failing to defeat/kill the SHs and others! Fucking trash!"

Yeah because it's not like they have plot armor and it's also not like the Gorosei are being held back.:seriously:

"The Gorosei couldn't stop Vegapunk's message quickly! Fucking trash!"

Yeah because the Gorosei somehow knew where the den den mushi would be located, even York didn't know where it was at first.:few:

"The Gorosei couldn't accomplish a single thing! Fucking trash!"

I guess you forgot about the Gorosei being able to locate Punk Records, the Mother Flame, freeing York, they also were able to accomplish their mission on killing Vegapunk thanks to Kizaru, and while they couldn't fully stop Vegapunk's message, they were at the very least able to stop Vegapunk from revealing any important information about the Will of D.

They also freed the Cipher Pol Agends and the Seraphims as well.

"But the Gorosei are weak? Uhhhh trash?"

All five Gorosei have CoC and awakening, their haki were hyped up, Jinbe hyped up Mars's haki in a similar way to how he hyped up Shanks's haki.

G5 Luffy couldn't do anything to Warcury and he along with Dorry and Brogy were running away from him.

Luffy, Bonney, Sanji, and Franky needed to team up just to send Mars away.

Nusjuro easily cut the Labophase in a single slice.

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Aura lost completely. The minute he went for Robin the weakhats should not be able to delay him for even a microsecond. It's unfortunate.

It's terrible cause like you said he had that freeze ability too, Oda just making them look bad.
I feel like us as intelligent readers should know its not Saturns fault but Oda lol. And not give him a mallus because he couldnt get to the straw hats lol. He couldve exploded their heads, he didnt, he couldve froze them he didnt. He couldve used his poison spit, he didnt lol. He just Kinda stood there for a few and then blew them away after being told where the broadcast is and left for the Robot. Oda shouldve just never had him attack the straw hats in the first place lol.

Hybrid forms isn't saving gorosei here when awakened gorosei looking average

Just like awakening can't save someone combat wise if they suck at fighting or couldn't do much without awakening
Venusjuro in his Horse form has the sash, in his hybrid form he has the sash.

Thats two forms where he has the sash lol. So the others are in Zoan form the the sash lol.
 
They are all Zoans and all of them stayed in their full Zoan form, Full Zoan form isnt the best form for fighting. That would be Hybrid.

So yeah its too soon to judge brother.
But the gorosei are super serious atm and want to achieve their objectives at any cost, logically they’re using their most capable forms. Gandhi is a swordsman, what applies to him doesn’t necessarily apply to others. We’ve seen Saturn go through all his forms and he still looks terrible as a fighter
 
But the gorosei are super serious atm and want to achieve their objectives at any cost, logically they’re using their most capable forms. Gandhi is a swordsman, what applies to him doesn’t necessarily apply to others. We’ve seen Saturn go through all his forms and he still looks terrible as a fighter
Like I told Zenzu, this is a narrative dissonance that Oda created. He wanted to make these unstopable monsters but also couldnt allow them to actually lay down the hurt on the straw hats, he wanted his cake and to eat it too. And it really sucks lol.

Yes Saturn looks terrible I agree but do remember, he forgot to use his freeze ability, forgot to use his Eye explode ability, forgot to use his poison spit. He literally just stood there for a while taking their attacks and when hes had enough he blew them away lol.

Kaido wasnt a swordsman yet the difference in combat skill between Zoan and Hybrid is night and day, same for Lucci.

So the rest being in full Zoan does in fact impede their fighting skill imo. And since we didnt see them go hybrid we cant judge them yet lol.
 
If you really think about it, Luffy and the rest of the strawhats actually failed for once

Like these guys actually failed to save a friend. Well friends! Vegapunk (Stella) being the biggest loss

Atlas was also the VP that fed him and now both the 2 most important VP’s to Luffy died on his watch AND the entire island is about to be destroyed. I wonder how Luffy will feel after this
 
But the gorosei are super serious atm and want to achieve their objectives at any cost,
Also they did achieve most of their objective bar ending the broadcast which restarted and killing Bonney but like they will never kill Bonney so right now Oda is having most of them bar Venusjuro focus on the Robot. The entire half of this arc is them trying to deal with the broadcast for the most part lol.
 
If you really think about it, Luffy and the rest of the strawhats actually failed for once

Like these guys actually failed to save a friend. Well friends! Vegapunk (Stella) being the biggest loss

Atlas was also the VP that fed him and now both the 2 most important VP’s to Luffy died on his watch AND the entire island is about to be destroyed. I wonder how Luffy will feel after this
This is pretty much their major L, not them being defeated like many thought but them failing to save the main Vegapunk and also Luffy failing his promise to Sentomaru.
 
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