So you can write 34999 characters but you cannot drop a single piece of evidence here?
I explained to you already why those site are to be taken with a grain of salt. I won't repeat what I said 10 times. Go look at the previous posts mate. I prefer to diversify what I say. :)
In the narration, he is the deuteragonist written as Luffy's comrade, his right hand man. Try again.
Nop
The story already introduced close allies, doofus. It's Law, Bartolomeo and Marco.
Those are allies not close ally, but that's just semantic. You can call the strawhats extremily close ally if you prefer, they are still ally in the storytelling sence.
An ally is a person on the side of the protagonist. An ally can be family, friends, aquaintance. Its a large group.
It's so clear you don't understand the actual narration in One Piece.
hahaha.. Mate.
If only you knew and understood just how ridiculous this statement is when you are talking to me
You don't even understand the hierarchy of the strawhats and the family-like structure they are having.
Because you know a lot of family when there is a hierarchy ?
You are really not helping your argument here since neither Luffy and Zoro are considered "parents" lmao
Before you give me advise on it, better re-read the manga again, lol.
If you knew lol...
You are cute
Nop
You already come up with the perfect conditions which confirm your stance. It's so disingenuous and biased that I had to show you how to do it correctly.
I answered it 3 times, you dumbass mf, 3 TIMES. Each time, you came up with newer and more ridiculous scenarios to make it "more clear" for me. Out of all the discussions, this is probably the most annoying one...
Heck, I even came up with my own equation to demonstrate it to you how you do it correctly...
Yes, indeed, you ended up replying.
Giving the worst answer possible xD
You are literally choosing the words of the author over what he writes.
There is so many problems with that ...
Many authors still use it
Oh, really ? Who ?
I'm not here to judge if an author uses it mate. Author usually don't have problem understanding storytelling so they can stray from the path if they want to.
My problem is with people like this fanbase that does not have all the tools to understand correctly storytelling and therefore risk to confuse itself and creates illegitimate expectations in the process.
Because, let's be honest, if you consider that Zoro is a deuteragonist, what it will create is the expectation that Zoro will outshine ALL the character beside Luffy before the end of the manga.
This is something that will not happen, not matter how hard you expect it. So people will get disappointed, and hatred will flow. All because people like you choosed to extrapolate and missinterprete what Oda said about Zoro.
Zoro will stay Zoro, he will have shining moments, like all the strawhats, but he won't outshine all the characters in the story. That's will simply not happen. So be careful and stop spreading BS
Actually there is. The belief that "there is no right way" comes from people who idealize the craft of storytelling or first years study in screenwriting classes.
If you start learning about the subject and manage to allow self critic, you will learn real fast that there is a right way to create stories. UNLESS you want you story to stay invisible. In that case, yes, you can do whatever you want.
But in modern storytelling there are what we could call classic rules that you can't avoid. Even if your name is Eiichiro Oda. ESPECIALLY if your name is Eiichiro Oda.
In the same way, we categorize character in different classes for a reason in order to avoid the confusion and keep everything readable.
Starting from that point is POSSIBLE (even if I consider it not really pertinent or necessary) to use the term Deuteragonist to classify some characters.
BUT you need to do it right. And doing it right in that case, means understanding that Zoro is not special compared to all the strawhat aside from his position and that ALL the strawhats but also ALL the main arc character should be call "deuteragonist" as well.
You're literally trying to prove the author of One Piece wrong
Nop. Nothing said by Oda is wrong. In fact I completely agree and I believe completely Oda on his statement about Ryuma and his early creation.
What is wrong is your interpretation of said statement and your extrapolation on the character of Zoro.
I think it won't bring much difference.
I don't think so either to be frank, this is mostly done to occupy myself right now. I just put everything I have in it.
My problem, and the actual problem, is that there is no good outcome from this. In fact, it's more detrimental :
- If Zoro isn't the deuteragonist : it feels like he isn't as important, but his showings throughout the series actually befitting his purpose.
- If Zoro is the deuteragonist :
1. He should be written to be more related to a lot of plot and scenes, but so far he didn't. Even Sanji has more actions.
2. He should be more important to the story as a whole, for example being the key to Laugh Tale (Robin) or the one who create the Grand Fleet (Usopp).
3. The most overlooked one, is that all of Zoro's thing in the story is happening because the plot requires him to be (because he is the deuteragonist). Like it or not, it's much cooler for Zoro to do all of those great actions & scenes because he is a normal main character.
Exactly
Guys it's getting really bad.
Sanji is NOT the deuteragonist either
