Any sane person already knew this, but its great to see Oda confirming Zoro as the deuteragonist. One Piece basically started with the Wanted one shot. Oda not only took Luffy from the Wanted verse but also copied Ryuma and Anne as Zoro and Nami, respectively. No wonder those three were later called the triggers of One Piece.
General & Others Zoro s confirmed to be the deuteragonist.
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Nice way to run away from, Chicken.
Omg dude, there are just so many assertions on your part.
Like, can you provide evidence for it? Which source do you take it from that friends, family, etc are always refered as "allies" in storytelling? There is no point in the story when Luffy's crew members were regarded as his allies.
The only ridiculous thing is you acting all highly and mighty when you're just spewing bullshit.
Luffy and Zoro don't have to act as "parents" because the strawhats are basically like siblings.
Oh no! I'm relying on the author's statement to make a point! How silly of me!
Yet you're here to spew bullshit on the fact that the author uses this term. You vehemently deny the sincerety of this statement that you try to give your halfassed, made up "storytelling terms" to prove a non-existent point.
It's you who doesn't understand simple storytelling because you are too stubborn and warped into your own perception of reality. There is really no hope for you, lol.
Forget outshining other characters, Zoro outshined Luffy on the rooftop and he was the only one who scarred Kaido before Luffy received his power up. Law, Kidd and Killer - these characters were important characters to the story and Zoro outperformed them combined. He even took on Hakai singlehandely. Which strawhat came close to this kind of portrayal and importance in Wano? Whenever Zoro is there, he delivers. Besides, tell me this, did Nami or Sanji received this panel when they beat their respective opponent?
Be honest, tell me exactly which character shared their moment with Luffy like that?
We debated the entire time about your bullshit arguments but what ultimately boils down is the fact that you downplay Zoro's achievements compared to the rest of the strawhats in this story.
There is no need to, he doesn't have to outshine other characters in the story to be regarded the deuteragonist. When it comes to power, Zoro will be one of the strongest characters by default because his goal is associated to the WSS who had equal duels with Shanks. Law will be ultimately highly outclassed. Kidd is already highly outclassed.
Then tell me the "right way", mr. expert.
Self critic? Really? This comes from you who thinks he understands storytelling and its terms better than the author of One Piece? Who needs to lecture others how they are interpreting Oda's statement? This shit being ironic is an understatement.
Lmao, the more you talk, the more you write complete garbage. Now you wanna tell me Oda broke those rules when he stated how Zoro is the deuteragonist? The total state of your mentality.
It's you who created the confusion in the first place. Oda solved the misunderstanding and confirmed Zoro's position in the story - you went butthurt and started doing your usual autistic nonsensical BS about "proper storytelling", "It's not true when it comes to narration", etc.
"Understanding that Zoro is not special compared to all the strawhats", "except his position".
Repeat after me: "Except his position.", "Except. His. Position.", "EXCEPT. HIS. POSITION", "HIS POSITION".
If all strawhats would be deuteragonist judging by Oda's statement, he'd have mention how he made the deuteragonists of his story as Luffy's crew members. He didn't. What he did was making a secondary MC who is "like Ryuma". Guess who is like Ryuma? It's Zoro. Guess who was one of the reasons OP became this popular? It's Zoro? Guess whose goal is the most compatible with Luffy's? It's Zoro because both dreams are about pure strength, power and worldly recognition. Guess whose goal also impacts the whole story? It's also Zoro's because we have so many swordsmen who are connected to Zoro's goal and there is a weapon system dedicated to Zoro's goal...
Gosh, you truly are one of the stupidest mfs on this forum. You clearly rival Rootbeer with your bullshit.
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Oda (this month): Before OP started, I already had the idea of having a character like Luffy as the protagonist. In order to be popular, I prepared someone like Ryuma as the 2nd main character.《TN: Does that mean Zoro, whose ancestor is Ryuma, can be another protagonist...?》
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"someone like Ryuma"
"Like Ryuma"
"L.I.K.E R.Y.U.M.A"
Zoro IS LIKE RYUMA, he is RYUMA'S DESCENDANT!!!!!!! you dumbass.
Omg dude, there are just so many assertions on your part.
Like, can you provide evidence for it? Which source do you take it from that friends, family, etc are always refered as "allies" in storytelling? There is no point in the story when Luffy's crew members were regarded as his allies.
The only ridiculous thing is you acting all highly and mighty when you're just spewing bullshit.
Luffy and Zoro don't have to act as "parents" because the strawhats are basically like siblings.
Oh no! I'm relying on the author's statement to make a point! How silly of me!
Yet you're here to spew bullshit on the fact that the author uses this term. You vehemently deny the sincerety of this statement that you try to give your halfassed, made up "storytelling terms" to prove a non-existent point.
It's you who doesn't understand simple storytelling because you are too stubborn and warped into your own perception of reality. There is really no hope for you, lol.
Forget outshining other characters, Zoro outshined Luffy on the rooftop and he was the only one who scarred Kaido before Luffy received his power up. Law, Kidd and Killer - these characters were important characters to the story and Zoro outperformed them combined. He even took on Hakai singlehandely. Which strawhat came close to this kind of portrayal and importance in Wano? Whenever Zoro is there, he delivers. Besides, tell me this, did Nami or Sanji received this panel when they beat their respective opponent?
Be honest, tell me exactly which character shared their moment with Luffy like that?
We debated the entire time about your bullshit arguments but what ultimately boils down is the fact that you downplay Zoro's achievements compared to the rest of the strawhats in this story.
There is no need to, he doesn't have to outshine other characters in the story to be regarded the deuteragonist. When it comes to power, Zoro will be one of the strongest characters by default because his goal is associated to the WSS who had equal duels with Shanks. Law will be ultimately highly outclassed. Kidd is already highly outclassed.
Then tell me the "right way", mr. expert.
Self critic? Really? This comes from you who thinks he understands storytelling and its terms better than the author of One Piece? Who needs to lecture others how they are interpreting Oda's statement? This shit being ironic is an understatement.
Lmao, the more you talk, the more you write complete garbage. Now you wanna tell me Oda broke those rules when he stated how Zoro is the deuteragonist? The total state of your mentality.
It's you who created the confusion in the first place. Oda solved the misunderstanding and confirmed Zoro's position in the story - you went butthurt and started doing your usual autistic nonsensical BS about "proper storytelling", "It's not true when it comes to narration", etc.
"Understanding that Zoro is not special compared to all the strawhats", "except his position".
Repeat after me: "Except his position.", "Except. His. Position.", "EXCEPT. HIS. POSITION", "HIS POSITION".
If all strawhats would be deuteragonist judging by Oda's statement, he'd have mention how he made the deuteragonists of his story as Luffy's crew members. He didn't. What he did was making a secondary MC who is "like Ryuma". Guess who is like Ryuma? It's Zoro. Guess who was one of the reasons OP became this popular? It's Zoro? Guess whose goal is the most compatible with Luffy's? It's Zoro because both dreams are about pure strength, power and worldly recognition. Guess whose goal also impacts the whole story? It's also Zoro's because we have so many swordsmen who are connected to Zoro's goal and there is a weapon system dedicated to Zoro's goal...
Gosh, you truly are one of the stupidest mfs on this forum. You clearly rival Rootbeer with your bullshit.
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Oda (this month): Before OP started, I already had the idea of having a character like Luffy as the protagonist. In order to be popular, I prepared someone like Ryuma as the 2nd main character.《TN: Does that mean Zoro, whose ancestor is Ryuma, can be another protagonist...?》
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"someone like Ryuma"
"Like Ryuma"
"L.I.K.E R.Y.U.M.A"
Zoro IS LIKE RYUMA, he is RYUMA'S DESCENDANT!!!!!!! you dumbass.
''Sane person'' explain what makes Zolo more special than rest of SH crew?
Is Zolo going to be the next leader for finding One Piece if Luffy dies?
Not only Zolo has no big ambitions like that, even if he tried that Sanji and others wouldn't give af about Zolo, wouldn't follow him.
Zolo beats stronger underlings. So does Sanji, he beats same level opponents.
Guess what, Zolo is the only SH pirate with no certain proficient. He is just a fighter which everyone is fighting. Cook, doctor, shipwright, navigator are arguably more important for Luffy for his adventure.
Zolo has no ability like that, in exchange for Zolo lacking any useful ability for the crew, Oda just makes him beat a little bit stronger opponents than Sanji beats.
There is Luffy and Luffy's crew. Zolo is not more special than the other Luffy's crew.
Story revolves around the Emperors. Any Emperor is more important than Zolo for the story.
You mean like Koshiro and Kozaburo? They are like Ryuma too now?
You are the dumbass here because we've seen many times just because someone possess their ancestors power that doesn't mean they are same personality.
Roger-Ace
Garp-Dragon
Linlin-Katakuri
They inherit the some power, but different personality. Same thing with Ryuma-Zolo.
Not only Ryuma's and Zolo's personality is different, Zolo also sucks at using 1 sword style while Ryuma uses only 1 sword. Another huge difference.
That 1 eye thing is a common trait with many other characters also, that doesn't mean they are similar.
Another dumbass
Is Zolo going to be the next leader for finding One Piece if Luffy dies?
Not only Zolo has no big ambitions like that, even if he tried that Sanji and others wouldn't give af about Zolo, wouldn't follow him.
Zolo beats stronger underlings. So does Sanji, he beats same level opponents.
Guess what, Zolo is the only SH pirate with no certain proficient. He is just a fighter which everyone is fighting. Cook, doctor, shipwright, navigator are arguably more important for Luffy for his adventure.
Zolo has no ability like that, in exchange for Zolo lacking any useful ability for the crew, Oda just makes him beat a little bit stronger opponents than Sanji beats.
There is Luffy and Luffy's crew. Zolo is not more special than the other Luffy's crew.
Story revolves around the Emperors. Any Emperor is more important than Zolo for the story.
You mean like Koshiro and Kozaburo? They are like Ryuma too now?
You are the dumbass here because we've seen many times just because someone possess their ancestors power that doesn't mean they are same personality.
Roger-Ace
Garp-Dragon
Linlin-Katakuri
They inherit the some power, but different personality. Same thing with Ryuma-Zolo.
Not only Ryuma's and Zolo's personality is different, Zolo also sucks at using 1 sword style while Ryuma uses only 1 sword. Another huge difference.
That 1 eye thing is a common trait with many other characters also, that doesn't mean they are similar.
Another dumbass
''Sane person'' explains what makes Zolo more special than rest of SH crew?
Is Zolo going to be the next leader for finding One Piece if Luffy dies?
Not only Zolo has no big ambitions like that, even if he tried that Sanji and others wouldn't give af about Zolo, wouldn't follow him.
Zolo beats stronger underlings. So does Sanji, he beats same level opponents.
Guess what, Zolo is the only SH pirate with no certain proficient. He is just a fighter which everyone is fighting. Cook, doctor, shipwright, navigator are arguably more important for Luffy for his adventure.
Zolo has no ability like that in exchange for Zolo lacks any useful ability for Luffy, Oda just makes him beat a little bit stronger opponents than Sanji beats.
Zolo is not more special than other Luffy's crew.
You mean like Koshiro and Kozaburo? They are like Ryuma too now?
You are the dumbass here because we've seen many times just because someone possess their ancestors power that doesn't mean they are same personality.
Roger-Ace
Garp-Dragon
Linlin-Katakuri
They inherit the some power, but different personality. Same thing with Ryuma-Zolo.
Not only Ryuma's and Zolo's personality is different, Zolo also sucks at using 1 sword style while Ryuma uses only 1 sword. Another huge difference.
That 1 eye thing is a common thing with many other characters also, that doesn't mean they are similar.
Another dumbass
Is Zolo going to be the next leader for finding One Piece if Luffy dies?
Not only Zolo has no big ambitions like that, even if he tried that Sanji and others wouldn't give af about Zolo, wouldn't follow him.
Zolo beats stronger underlings. So does Sanji, he beats same level opponents.
Guess what, Zolo is the only SH pirate with no certain proficient. He is just a fighter which everyone is fighting. Cook, doctor, shipwright, navigator are arguably more important for Luffy for his adventure.
Zolo has no ability like that in exchange for Zolo lacks any useful ability for Luffy, Oda just makes him beat a little bit stronger opponents than Sanji beats.
Zolo is not more special than other Luffy's crew.
You mean like Koshiro and Kozaburo? They are like Ryuma too now?
You are the dumbass here because we've seen many times just because someone possess their ancestors power that doesn't mean they are same personality.
Roger-Ace
Garp-Dragon
Linlin-Katakuri
They inherit the some power, but different personality. Same thing with Ryuma-Zolo.
Not only Ryuma's and Zolo's personality is different, Zolo also sucks at using 1 sword style while Ryuma uses only 1 sword. Another huge difference.
That 1 eye thing is a common thing with many other characters also, that doesn't mean they are similar.
Another dumbass
I'm sure Oda meant Koshiro and Kozaburo!!!!!
Thanks for confirming you are a class A retard, lmao.
The similarities between Zoro and Ryuma were literally brought up by Hyo who is a very experienced swordsman. Zoro is basically the new gen Ryuma just like Luffy is the new gen Roger. There are differences but these characters are based on them.
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You saying this: ''Nice way to run away from, Chicken.'' -Lentinel the dumbass who think having an ancestor = being the same personality 
The similarities between Zoro and Ryuma were literally brought up by Hyo who is a very experienced swordsman. Zoro is basically the new gen Ryuma just like Luffy is the new gen Roger. There are differences but these characters are based on them.
Ryuma's debut
Literally screams ''I am goofy''
Imagine Zolo being goofy like this
Zolo's debut
It screams ''look guys I am trying to be look scary and stoic''
ZKKretards: 'Ryuma and Zolo are same people just because they have ancestor connection.'
Meanwhile Ace, Kata, Dragon are all different people than their fathers and mothers.
Imagine Zolo being goofy like this
Zolo's debut
ZKKretards: 'Ryuma and Zolo are same people just because they have ancestor connection.'
Meanwhile Ace, Kata, Dragon are all different people than their fathers and mothers.
Ryuma's debut
Literally screams ''I am goofy''
Imagine Zolo being goofy like this
Zolo's debut
It screams ''look guys I am trying to be look scary and stoic''
ZKKretards: 'Ryuma and Zolo are same people just because they have ancestor connection.'
Meanwhile Ace, Kata, Dragon are all different people than their fathers and mothers.
Imagine Zolo being goofy like this
Zolo's debut
ZKKretards: 'Ryuma and Zolo are same people just because they have ancestor connection.'
Meanwhile Ace, Kata, Dragon are all different people than their fathers and mothers.
If that is what you are saying, just how scared of Zoro are you?
Let's just ignore the fact that he's been captured like that standing for several days without food or water and this is your expression on him which means "look guys I am trying to be look scary and stoic"? No, he doesn't look scary and stoic, he looks like he is on his death bed already lmao.
When Zoro actually was freed from it and was himself again, he looks like this:
Oh look, literally screams "I am goofy"...
Also, I have seen the entire episode. Ryuma had like few moments of it, he was nowhere near goofy like Luffy is always. He is more akin to what was pre ts Zoro. He also had plenty of goofy moments. Like, his lack of orientation is a huge gag moment for the entire anime community.
But I guess Zoro was meant to look scary and stoic here as well:
When Zoro actually was freed from it and was himself again, he looks like this:
Oh look, literally screams "I am goofy"...
Also, I have seen the entire episode. Ryuma had like few moments of it, he was nowhere near goofy like Luffy is always. He is more akin to what was pre ts Zoro. He also had plenty of goofy moments. Like, his lack of orientation is a huge gag moment for the entire anime community.
But I guess Zoro was meant to look scary and stoic here as well:
Let's just ignore the fact that he's been captured like that standing for several days without food or water and this is your expression on him which means "look guys I am trying to be look scary and stoic"? No, he doesn't look scary and stoic, he looks like he is on his death bed already lmao.
When Zoro actually was freed from it and was himself again, he looks like this:
Oh look, literally screams "I am goofy"...
When Zoro actually was freed from it and was himself again, he looks like this:
Oh look, literally screams "I am goofy"...
Btw even that cherry picked from 1000 chapters scene isn't same as Ryuma's debut, even speech balloon is different and background is much more shiny with Ryuma than Zolo's rare laughs.
Dumbass, keep thinking having ancestor = having same personality.
How many times Zolo laughs like that you dumb bitch? And thats not him being goofy. You literally cherry pick inside of 1000 manga chapters material then compare him with a goofy character's debut and claim that Zolo is goofy like Ryuma
Reality sure hurt you now.
Compare their debuts, its that simple.
Ryuma is goofy and not trying to look scary, Zolo is stoic and trying to look scary majority of the time.
Reality sure hurt you now.
Compare their debuts, its that simple.
Ryuma is goofy and not trying to look scary, Zolo is stoic and trying to look scary majority of the time.
Zoro has his own thing going on unlike the rest of the crew. The rest would remain nameless bums without Luffy, Zoro would be the WSS one way or another. Just look at the Wanted one shot: Anne doesnt have a story of her own, she is a part of Luffy's story. On the other hand, Ryuma got his own story. You could argue against anything I say, but you cant argue against the author himself =>