Did Enma have Oden's haki in it?


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If Emeth is several times bigger then a Giant then its possible that Joyboy was a giant and that the Hat in Mary Joie is still his.
You are thinking it the other way.... The big SH used to control JoYBoy.. The small one is controlling Roger, shanks and luffy.... Or else there would be absolutely no reason to keep it saved..
 
The ones who wore the Straw hat are on the same general level. Cry to Oda about it. You both can't deal with the parallels.
Sure

:willight: if that makes you sleep at night

Shanks is on the same level as Joyboy, Roger and EoS Luffy yet still can't be crowned WSP, WS,
Even now nobody in the verse hypes him as King like they did for Roger even before he became PK

:willight:
Yet he lacks VoAT and Nika fruit like Joyboy and Luffy
But well, "same level"
He doesn't even have VoAt

Roger was lacking nika fruit, that's why he didn't reach Joyboy level while Luffy will surpass that cause he everything Joyboy had.

But cope though
"Same level" gonna lose to Teach who's not gonna be equal to Joyboy
 
Lol Shanks isnt Joyboy destined to save the world. Im laughing at you.
Concession accepted. Denial isn't a refutation. I posted the parallels. Saying "No u" isn't an argument. I said they are the same level. That doesn't mean that specific things like saving the world can't be only for one of them. Same as Roger being PK with WB on his level.
 
If Emeth is several times bigger then a Giant then its possible that Joyboy was a giant and that the Hat in Mary Joie is still his.
Joyboy may be a buccaneer or Giant

Nika - Giant /Buccaneer
Joyboy - Buccaneer / Buccaneer
Luffy - human

Kuma family says they pass down Nika culture
So Joyboy and Nika can either be Buccaneer or Giants
 
Sure

:willight: if that makes you sleep at night

Shanks is on the same level as Joyboy, Roger and EoS Luffy yet still can't be crowned WSP, WS,
Even now nobody in the verse hypes him as King like they did for Roger even before he became PK

:willight:
Yet he lacks VoAT and Nika fruit like Joyboy and Luffy
But well, "same level"
He doesn't even have VoAt

Roger was lacking nika fruit, that's why he didn't reach Joyboy level while Luffy will surpass that cause he everything Joyboy had.

But cope though
"Same level" gonna lose to Teach who's not gonna be equal to Joyboy
Your problem is relying on shitty titles like WSP or WS when Roger had none. It's all false hype by Oda. At the end of the day, Kaido who was WSC got sent back to the NW like a rat against Shanks.
 
Concession accepted. Denial isn't a refutation. I posted the parallels. Saying "No u" isn't an argument. I said they are the same level. That doesn't mean that specific things like saving the world can't be only for one of them. Same as Roger being PK with WB on his level.
Lol
Shanks isn't on Roger level
He's canonically weaker than WB and Kaido

AND Roger isn't on Joyboy level
How could Shanks even be on Joyboy's level ?
 

We know with strong enough haki one can overwhelm someone else's haki or devil fruit but what if shanks can do something 1 step above

What if shanks can staight up turn off someone's ability to even use their haki and/or devil fruit. Having stronger haki then someone is obviously already a good advantage but if they cant even use their haki or fruit it widens the gap even more

Tho not really canon it was said that shanks was able to stop others from using their observation haki. If that ends up actually happening in the manga it might not be impossible for him to do the same with others armament and conquerors haki


If shanks can just stop someone from using haki while blackbeard can stop someone from using their devil fruit powers it could be a cool parallel between the two


If he's able to stop someone from using both he'd be even more powerful. Also if thats the case it might explain how shanks, roger, and maybe garp are able to compare to characters like whitebeard, sengoku, and the other emperors and admiral. That's assuming they're able to do the same
Back when roger fought whitebeard for straight up 3 days in a row the island was seemingly fine more or less. Possibly because roger was capable of restricting newgates powers

But as soon as whitebeard got angry right after they fought he was able to change the whole terrain around the island

So maybe because of rogers haki powers he was able to fight whitebeard on equal terms. Roger still being the strongest non devil fruit user able to beat anyone devil fruit or not
Whitebeard still being overall still considered the world stronger man because of his devil fruit on top of being able to compete with roger without it. Making both roger = newgate and newgate = the world's strongest man true
I was right about shanks and Roger
:pepebusi:
I should’ve known when this came out
 
If anyone wondered whether DF merchants stand a chance against hakimen, this chapter has answered that question for good.
This automatically removes Blackbeard and Luffy and Imu from #1 spot as they are DF merchants whose abilities get cancelled by hakimen.
Are we ready to accept Zoro/Mihawk supremacy? :milaugh:
Monet couldn't pull herself together after being aura diffed, the grass dude almost turned back to base, Warcury almost forced Goofy out of G5.
Pretty safe bet that the strongest willpower is the answer to DF abilities which in turn means that DF merchants are running out of time. :sighting:
 
Your problem is relying on shitty titles like WSP or WS when Roger had none. It's all false hype by Oda. At the end of the day, Kaido who was WSC got sent back to the NW like a rat against Shanks.
You gonna cope

Shanks couldn't do a thing to kaido or sickbeard
He's not even near Roger

You are just delusional like zoro fans

You're reading one piece and think Shanks is on same level as Roger and let alone Joyboy
What drugs are you on?

Roger was WSP and King of his era lol
Why do you think they call it "Gold Roger era" and not "WB era" like they did for Great Pirate Era which was also called "Whitebeard era"
 
Lol
Shanks isn't on Roger level
He's canonically weaker than WB and Kaido

AND Roger isn't on Joyboy level
How could Shanks even be on Joyboy's level ?
Shanks was stronger than Old WB and Kaido, get real. No empty titles will change that.

Roger is definitely on Joyboy's level as they just said they were too early.
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You gonna cope

Shanks couldn't do a thing to kaido or sickbeard
He's not even near Roger

You are just delusional like zoro fans

You're reading one piece and think Shanks is on same level as Roger and let alone Joyboy
What drugs are you on?

Roger was WSP and King of his era lol
Why do you think they call it "Gold Roger era" and not "WB era" like they did for Great Pirate Era which was also called "Whitebeard era"
Shanks was keeping the peace and balance. That's why he didn't take WB or Kaido out. Read the manga. He was waiting for Luffy.
 
Concession accepted. Denial isn't a refutation. I posted the parallels. Saying "No u" isn't an argument. I said they are the same level. That doesn't mean that specific things like saving the world can't be only for one of them. Same as Roger being PK with WB on his level.
Nothing to accept, Shanks isnt Joyboy nor the Savior of the world.

JB has shown greater feats then even Roger but now you wanna place Shanks at JBs level because of parallels.
 
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