Powers & Abilities It is over for the Devil Fruit users.

Are DF merchants screwed?

  • Yes, of course they are.

  • No, hopium is strong.


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#81
Ngl, it's quite convenient Kaido saying that shit when he can transform into a mountain sized dragon and form an island sized, magma-like fire dragon surrounding his body which melts horns, dwarfing mountains, by mere contact.

As for the DFs, I'm sure we'll find out the origin of their existence and whatever this will be, it will completely blow the current powerstructure away.
Also Kaido literally benefits from his scales as they are the reason why he has insane durability

This thread really is delusional
 
#82
5 primordial haki gods were more afraid of awakening Nika powers than angering the WSC.

The MC has become the god of freedom that will liberate the world. The world’s strongest fruit was primarily responsible for making WB earn the title of world’s strongest man. Similarly, the ultimate df will make Law the ultimate fighter.

@Ven437 @Heart pirate @Roo
 
#83
Akainu's era is over
Look at his fellow DF merchant friends:
Kizaru jobbing in Egghead
Aokiji became Yonko's subordinate
Greenbull jobbing in Wano

nik87 is right. The DF merchants are falling 1 by 1. The Admirals are the easiest target because the other like Luffy is protected by main character's plot armor and Blackbeard is not mere DF merchant but DFs merchant.
For me they will have their importance until the end bc the story started with one

 
#88
Not really, since Luffy's fruit, pre awakening, was pretty useless. He improved it with Gears but those were only decent for preskip standards. In the timeskip, it was all about learning Haki. G4 was all about infusing large amounts of Haki into his new form, fighting against Katakuri was all about learning advanced CoO, fighting against Kaido was all about learning all types of advanced offensive Haki types (internal destruction, barrier, ACoC). So the moment Luffy awakened his fruit, he already pushed his Haki to top tier level and even now, his fruit when it comes to offensive power, needs to be amped by Haki. It's not like your typical paramecia that gives you control over an element and the ability to weaponize the surroundings, let alone the power output of the Logia.
Don’t try to twist it much, haki is needed for all forms of fighting
Luffy without his rubber damage absorption, speed from heating up, increased power from stretching, and most importantly healing powers by consuming food would’ve been nowwhere near where he is right now. That’s not even mentioning Gear5
As we said obviously with no haki all this is useless, but everyone worth discussing has haki, so your point is pretty much useless
Mastering devil fruit powers is akin to mastering swordsmanship or a martial art, though devil fruits have a much higher ceiling
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#94
Luffy is set to surpass this


In fact given Shonen rules, he's make that look like fodder come EOS
Nah, Sky-chin, he has always been a DF merchant.
Surpassing that is Zoro's job, the one who has always been a hakiman.
You know, the guy who is supposed to forge 3 weapons strongest in the world?
Something that not even Joyboy could achieve... Buy sword stocks now, Sky-chin! :hurry:
 
#97
Don’t try to twist it much, haki is needed for all forms of fighting
Luffy without his rubber damage absorption, speed from heating up, increased power from stretching, and most importantly healing powers by consuming food would’ve been nowwhere near where he is right now. That’s not even mentioning Gear5
As we said obviously with no haki all this is useless, but everyone worth discussing has haki, so your point is pretty much useless
Mastering devil fruit powers is akin to mastering swordsmanship or a martial art, though devil fruits have a much higher ceiling
Yeah, obviously, someone who has mastered his DF is stronger than his DFless self.

The point just was that in the end, Haki reigns supreme. DF will serve as a buff, but in the end the one with the most powerful Haki will stand atop. That's why Luffy will defeat triple top tier DF Blackbeard (who has Haki) while having 1 DF nerfed by the Yami fruit + Haki.
 
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