Chapter Discussion Every new chapter proves more and more that Haki > Swordsmanship

#42
Hyo likening ryuo to such skill but not being completely the same.
Hyogoro says swordmen use Advcanced armament to cut steel or not cut paper.

It’s a USE of advanced armament. But it’s still Advanced armament

Also why do you think Oda never explained why Zoro on the roof could cut Kaido? Oda goes out of his way to explain why EVERY CHARACTER on the roof can damage Kaido… (except kid)… law has internal destruction powers like gamma knife, killer has sound attacks that also do internal destruction, the scabbards are given a short flashback of Oden teaching them advanced armament… luffy was specifically training to damage Kaido… The only character who Oda just has them damage Kaido without explained why is Zoro… why is that?
 
#45
Haki is NOT a part of swordsmanship
People still cling to the idea that Shanks is stronger, has to be stronger, than Mihawk.
They are under the impression that Shanks will be some sort of final villain or the highest bar someone can reach.
Neither is true.
Shanks is not just weaker than Mihawk, he is also weaker than other top tiers.
Shanks is not the final villain of the story. He will undoubtedly be weaker than the final villain.

Even by invalidating swordsmenship you can not change the fact that Shanks is a runners up for everything.
Swordsmanship. Haki. Overall power. No matter.
And the bum knows it too. He gave away the Straw Hat willingly because he know deep down inside that hes not HIM.
 
#47
Sword without haki is like a holding cotton as weapon.
Mihawk taught part of haki which is coa. Rayleigh the one who taught 3 color of haki. Oh i forgot as swordman mihawk and zoro cant use all of it.
Observation and Armanent goes hand in hand with Swordsmanship.
Both zoro and luffy learnt it from Mihawk and Rayleigh.
And for Conqueror both mihawk and Rayleigh knows it can't be trained. So neither of them bothered.
 
#49
Observation and Armanent goes hand in hand with Swordsmanship.
Both zoro and luffy learnt it from Mihawk and Rayleigh.
And for Conqueror both mihawk and Rayleigh knows it can't be trained. So neither of them bothered.
Sent me 1 panel where mihawk teach zoro Color of observation let alone conqueror. Bcause rayleigh teach explisitly and emphasized the years of training for haki.
Rayleigh is different level of teacher. And hell of fighter. He didnt postponed fight against kizaru or blackbeard.

Haki not goes hand in hand with swordmanship.wano is just too advanced. Zoro decades time in his dojo of sword doesnt give him slightest glimpse of haki usement.

Haki stand alone as the ability. Just like sword, df, gun, spear and another tool and skill.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#50
People still cling to the idea that Shanks is stronger, has to be stronger, than Mihawk.
They are under the impression that Shanks will be some sort of final villain or the highest bar someone can reach.
Neither is true.
Shanks is not just weaker than Mihawk, he is also weaker than other top tiers.
Shanks is not the final villain of the story. He will undoubtedly be weaker than the final villain.

Even by invalidating swordsmenship you can not change the fact that Shanks is a runners up for everything.
Swordsmanship. Haki. Overall power. No matter.
And the bum knows it too. He gave away the Straw Hat willingly because he know deep down inside that hes not HIM.
Well, they are a funny bunch to say the least... I think this is a sign of panic.
They are jumping from a straw to a straw on a weekly basis. They are not sure which straw will remain above water and which will sink...
Plot twist - all straws are sinking.

First they were clinging onto Roger, the PK is strongest but then that house of cards started falling apart.
Shanks was always up there, some rate him below Roger, the other understand that he is present-day Roger so a strong straw at first glance... But then they realize no way Shanks will fare well against Imu so they are latching onto Joyboy.

Joyboy being just another Roger, a dead figure of the past is not that appealing straw to grab onto so they jump onto Blackbeard.
But then they remember that hakimen rule supreme and outright cancel DF abilities so they are back to the straw called Shanks...
Bottom line, all their straws are too weak and destined to sink so this panic is understandable.

The time works for one man - Mihawk.
The one who forged the strongest weapon in the world and Shanks, Roger, Joyboy, Imu, Blackbeard are not the ones who are fated to dethrone him. They delude themselves that Mihawk is just Vista's rival and not a guy who is bored because nobody can beat him...
 
#52
Sent me 1 panel where mihawk teach zoro Color of observation let alone conqueror. Bcause rayleigh teach explisitly and emphasized the years of training for haki.
Rayleigh is different level of teacher. And hell of fighter. He didnt postponed fight against kizaru or blackbeard.

Haki not goes hand in hand with swordmanship.wano is just too advanced. Zoro decades time in his dojo of sword doesnt give him slightest glimpse of haki usement.

Haki stand alone as the ability. Just like sword, df, gun, spear and another tool and skill.
Zoros sensei taught him ryou
 
#53
We now have "Haki Storage" and "CoC Bombs".
The applications of Haki only grow with time, meanwhile swordsmanship is still the same as it was on chapter 1.

When will you accept Haki Man was always a reality.
Maybe not everyone who had Haki can store it. What I mean is also among the top Haki users like Roger, Garp, shanks, Kaido etc? What if the Haki storage Joyboy did is in combination with his devil fruit? Nika can fight freely and in everyday he can imagine. If Joyboy imagined that he can store his Haki in a knot, because he saw the wind knots on a skyisland then it makes it only possible with his devil fruit. And no one else can do it.

for example Enel combined CoO together with his devil fruit to create a radar which increased his effective range and allowed him to sense even the smallest things.

So Haki storage might be a combination between Haki + Devil fruit ability.
 
#58
Of course you missed it bro . You don’t know how to read
Foolish, you think any fodder who can use CoA can cut steel..
While Haki coating among other ”skills”, call it what you want, put Zoro on the right track, fact is he has always been an exceptional swordsman even back in Baratie, which made even Mihawk admire him for a second even if he was technically lower than fodder to him

Cutting steel is way more impressive than simply coating a sword, that much is achieved by literal marine fodder
Breath of things is purely swordsmanship related, a blade that can choose to not cut anything yet also cut steel, Zoro demonstrates that by going through a leaf and not cutting it, then slices a rock in half with the same sword

Hakiless Alabasta Zoro would smoke countless CoA using fodder marines and pirates through brute strength and technique
 
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