House of the Dragon
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I think you missed the part where the shows tell you that a good leader is someone who listens. Rhae is NOT supposed to comes up with all the solutions herself, she is supposed to make poundered choices BASED OF what she takes the time to listen.
This is what separate a good ruler from a tyrant.
This is why Aegon is in a bed burned
This is why Aemond burned a city
And this is why Viserys was considered a good king.
This is why Deamond first went to build his own army but ended up bending completely the knee to Rhae
The show is ALL about the vertue of listening to others and the reality of the situation.
Do you feel like Luffy has no agency only because his crewmember are sometime disrespecting him ?
My thought on that moment was literally "this is a strawhat vibe". Rhae showed agency by not hanging him on the spot and being patient with him.
Do you feel like I'm saying that she is a saint ? She is still a Queen in a medieval fantastic world. This is a context where the rulers have little care about the "little people".
And yet.. there is an evolution. She still seek for as less death as possible. And in that matters it puts her largely on top of the others.
Not like that. This is not "one of the theme" its THE main thematic. At least its the biggest thematic of the two seasons I watched.
Game Of Throne was centered around the relationship of powers more than a such a specific thematic.
Rhae's story is all about what happens to a woman when she chooses to free herself from the patriarcal spectra
&
Allicent's story is all about what happens to a woman when she chooses to let herself be subjugated by this prison.
The guy is literally a serial rapist and child abuser...
But Okay...
Not really the biggest bright spot of the show..
This is what separate a good ruler from a tyrant.
This is why Aegon is in a bed burned
This is why Aemond burned a city
And this is why Viserys was considered a good king.
This is why Deamond first went to build his own army but ended up bending completely the knee to Rhae
The show is ALL about the vertue of listening to others and the reality of the situation.
Do you feel like Luffy has no agency only because his crewmember are sometime disrespecting him ?
My thought on that moment was literally "this is a strawhat vibe". Rhae showed agency by not hanging him on the spot and being patient with him.
Do you feel like I'm saying that she is a saint ? She is still a Queen in a medieval fantastic world. This is a context where the rulers have little care about the "little people".
And yet.. there is an evolution. She still seek for as less death as possible. And in that matters it puts her largely on top of the others.
Not like that. This is not "one of the theme" its THE main thematic. At least its the biggest thematic of the two seasons I watched.
Game Of Throne was centered around the relationship of powers more than a such a specific thematic.
Rhae's story is all about what happens to a woman when she chooses to free herself from the patriarcal spectra
&
Allicent's story is all about what happens to a woman when she chooses to let herself be subjugated by this prison.
The guy is literally a serial rapist and child abuser...
But Okay...
Not really the biggest bright spot of the show..
Rhae is getting hard carried entire season 1 and season 2, she listens others bcs she herself has no fcking clue what to do lmfao
Rhae and Luffy are 2 vastly different people.
Ulf disrespected her in front of her and Rhae didn't even bother to correct him. How is Ulf supposed to follow her if he has no respect for her?
Now compare Rhae to Jayce who immediately corrected Ulf and made him humble himself
She quite literally ordered burning of King's Landing and Old Town too, 2 out of 5 biggest cities in Westeros lol
Everyone has their faults in the show, but Aegon at least after taking the crown actively tries to do good and change for the better
Without Jayce, Black side hard looses
Rhae and Luffy are 2 vastly different people.
Ulf disrespected her in front of her and Rhae didn't even bother to correct him. How is Ulf supposed to follow her if he has no respect for her?
Now compare Rhae to Jayce who immediately corrected Ulf and made him humble himself
She quite literally ordered burning of King's Landing and Old Town too, 2 out of 5 biggest cities in Westeros lol
Everyone has their faults in the show, but Aegon at least after taking the crown actively tries to do good and change for the better
Without Jayce, Black side hard looses
Its sad that you can't see when and where she makes decisive choices. Its obvious..
Of course they are.
Good.. That's called storytelling. You just made an assumption on the future of the story based on the choices of the characters.
You are SUPPOSED to make that assumption. The shows specifically hints multiple times that Rhae tends to let people disrespect her because she refuses to face conflicts.
The third season will most likely explore this situation and will most likely depict Rhae in a more authoritative way (especially since I theorize that Ulf will chicken out mid battle and put Rhae or others in front of a very problematic or potentially mortal danger.)
This is not about Jayce. Jayce is a very insecure character and the reason why he corrected Ulf didn't come from a good place but from his own insecurities and ego.
Not yet.
Yes. Aegon do actually starts to learn a bit before letting his ego take over him and charge into battle without thinking. And I believe that Aegon do has a potential for the future. He learned what he needed to learn.
But compared to others, I can't call him a "good" character.
Maybe, I will see.
You need to understand that when we say "great ruler" we are saying "the least harmfull rulers that can happen in such a context".
A good ruler would be a leftist president distributing the ressources of the wealthy to the common folks and abolishing the priviledges of the ruling classes... But I don't think we will see that type of ruling anytime soon in Westeros lol
Right ?
Of course they are.
Good.. That's called storytelling. You just made an assumption on the future of the story based on the choices of the characters.
You are SUPPOSED to make that assumption. The shows specifically hints multiple times that Rhae tends to let people disrespect her because she refuses to face conflicts.
The third season will most likely explore this situation and will most likely depict Rhae in a more authoritative way (especially since I theorize that Ulf will chicken out mid battle and put Rhae or others in front of a very problematic or potentially mortal danger.)
This is not about Jayce. Jayce is a very insecure character and the reason why he corrected Ulf didn't come from a good place but from his own insecurities and ego.
Not yet.
Yes. Aegon do actually starts to learn a bit before letting his ego take over him and charge into battle without thinking. And I believe that Aegon do has a potential for the future. He learned what he needed to learn.
But compared to others, I can't call him a "good" character.
Maybe, I will see.
You need to understand that when we say "great ruler" we are saying "the least harmfull rulers that can happen in such a context".
A good ruler would be a leftist president distributing the ressources of the wealthy to the common folks and abolishing the priviledges of the ruling classes... But I don't think we will see that type of ruling anytime soon in Westeros lol
Right ?
If you are a ruler that lets people diss you, you aint a good ruler lmfao
ofc he is insecure, Rhae quite literally fucked his life over since birth and now gave 2 dragons to people that can contest his claim later.
But the Ulf scene was also because Jayce had enough of Ulf taking all of this so easy and not serious. If Rhae wont issue discipline he has to
She quite literally did at the dinner lol
No one is good character in this universe lmfao
ofc he is insecure, Rhae quite literally fucked his life over since birth and now gave 2 dragons to people that can contest his claim later.
But the Ulf scene was also because Jayce had enough of Ulf taking all of this so easy and not serious. If Rhae wont issue discipline he has to
She quite literally did at the dinner lol
No one is good character in this universe lmfao
Ruling is not about people respecting you, its about making the right descisions and allowing other people to shine because of your choices.
Again, please, stop spoiling me.
There is a nuance. She still hasn't ordered the fire to go. She said "all must be subdued". In other words, they must bend the knee. In short, she thinks using the dragons that it is the only way to break the will of the enemy to avoid thousands more deaths.
But this is not her only option as we can see at the end of the episode. Even if she brushed that off quite rapidely.
Of course there are. They are just all humans and all have flaws.
Again, please, stop spoiling me.
There is a nuance. She still hasn't ordered the fire to go. She said "all must be subdued". In other words, they must bend the knee. In short, she thinks using the dragons that it is the only way to break the will of the enemy to avoid thousands more deaths.
But this is not her only option as we can see at the end of the episode. Even if she brushed that off quite rapidely.
Of course there are. They are just all humans and all have flaws.
