Oda treated the title just fine
It's the fans who want to find any excuse to shit on it for whatever agenda of their own powerscaling
- Mihawk has never been in Wano? First of, Headcanon! We don't know that... Just because Oda didn't mention it doesn't mean it didn't happen... hell, maybe when we get to see Mihawk's flashback waaaay later in story to see his journey, we see him entering Wano. So that's just headcanon with all respect
- He has never fought a Yonko version of Shanks, and Shanks was stated to have his biggest infamy and influence due to Mihawk, still... so basically Shanks was recognized for his strength due to Mihawk... in other words, he became recognized as a Yonko because of it. It's the same as how Garp became "hero of marine" because of Rocks...
- Has not faught any top tier swordsman? Not true, Shanks was top tier. Otherwise, Whitebeard wouldn't call their duels legendary... dude, YFM duels are not considered legendary by yonko.. yonko only recognize their equals to call them legendary. Just because Shanks didn't have the title of yonko then, it doesn't mean he's not as strong or at least SO much close that the gap is so thin that both Mihawk/Shanks closed it during the past 10+ years as both can grow, not just Shanks
- Has not beaten Vet swordsman like Vista...? Sure, that's cause you miss Mihawk's personality.... go rewatch his duel with Zoro, which he could have ended in one second, but then you will realize that because he's so bored, he wants a challenge, that he ends up giving the opponent all the time they need to show ALL their techniques... with Zoro? He went small knife, let Zoro use all his techniques, and then he finished him
With Vista, he told him "wouldn't show me the flower blade style, Vista" and Vista after he attacked, stated "what kind of flower should I make bloom next?" Basically means Vista still got SOOOOOO much techniques to show
And that's why Mihawk STILL didn't go for the kill, he wanted to see more from Vista before he goes serious for the kill
- Was easily replaced by the toys? You realize that Kaido made an alliance with another YONKO because of those toys... by his own god damn tongue! And not only that, he is going for Ancient weapons and One Piece also. To actually get the upper hand
You know nothing about what Vegapunk invented and what can this invention do
- Isn't considered a great pirate? Cause he has no crew... and he was never called a pirate... however he's called "Greatest and Strongest swordsman"
- Was not viewed as strong by Kaido? Crocodile? Marco?
First off, Croc attacked everyone with no concern. He attacked WB, Mihawk, Akainu! So basically Croc doesn't see those other two as strong huh
Secondly, with Marco that's headcanon, just because he asked Vista to back SH doesn't mean he didn't view him as strong as yonko... simply your crewmember is a swordsman like Zoro (Vista) who seeks to challenge the best from swordsmen, by Vista's own mouth he said every swordsman wants to face him... why wouldn't marco ask him to be the one interfering! Marco/Jozu/Vista were all shown to be almost on similar level, Marco stepped up to Kizaru, Jozu to Aokiji, Vista to Mihawk... don't know what you all complain about here
- Kaido? Kaido's words regarding the shichibukai is simply because the avarage level of shichibukai is not on level of yonko
By avarage, I mean that Shichibukai vary in strength, we start from buggy level to Moria/Croc/Jinbe/Law level to Doffy/Kuma/Hancock level to Weevle level to Mihawk level
Avarage is not the same as avarage for yonko captains who are all 4 almost similar in level so their avarage is so high compared to shichibukai
It simply doesn't mean that the top of shichibukai cannot compare to Yonko
It's the fans who want to find any excuse to shit on it for whatever agenda of their own powerscaling
- Mihawk has never been in Wano? First of, Headcanon! We don't know that... Just because Oda didn't mention it doesn't mean it didn't happen... hell, maybe when we get to see Mihawk's flashback waaaay later in story to see his journey, we see him entering Wano. So that's just headcanon with all respect
- He has never fought a Yonko version of Shanks, and Shanks was stated to have his biggest infamy and influence due to Mihawk, still... so basically Shanks was recognized for his strength due to Mihawk... in other words, he became recognized as a Yonko because of it. It's the same as how Garp became "hero of marine" because of Rocks...
- Has not faught any top tier swordsman? Not true, Shanks was top tier. Otherwise, Whitebeard wouldn't call their duels legendary... dude, YFM duels are not considered legendary by yonko.. yonko only recognize their equals to call them legendary. Just because Shanks didn't have the title of yonko then, it doesn't mean he's not as strong or at least SO much close that the gap is so thin that both Mihawk/Shanks closed it during the past 10+ years as both can grow, not just Shanks
- Has not beaten Vet swordsman like Vista...? Sure, that's cause you miss Mihawk's personality.... go rewatch his duel with Zoro, which he could have ended in one second, but then you will realize that because he's so bored, he wants a challenge, that he ends up giving the opponent all the time they need to show ALL their techniques... with Zoro? He went small knife, let Zoro use all his techniques, and then he finished him
With Vista, he told him "wouldn't show me the flower blade style, Vista" and Vista after he attacked, stated "what kind of flower should I make bloom next?" Basically means Vista still got SOOOOOO much techniques to show
And that's why Mihawk STILL didn't go for the kill, he wanted to see more from Vista before he goes serious for the kill
- Was easily replaced by the toys? You realize that Kaido made an alliance with another YONKO because of those toys... by his own god damn tongue! And not only that, he is going for Ancient weapons and One Piece also. To actually get the upper hand
You know nothing about what Vegapunk invented and what can this invention do
- Isn't considered a great pirate? Cause he has no crew... and he was never called a pirate... however he's called "Greatest and Strongest swordsman"
- Was not viewed as strong by Kaido? Crocodile? Marco?
First off, Croc attacked everyone with no concern. He attacked WB, Mihawk, Akainu! So basically Croc doesn't see those other two as strong huh
Secondly, with Marco that's headcanon, just because he asked Vista to back SH doesn't mean he didn't view him as strong as yonko... simply your crewmember is a swordsman like Zoro (Vista) who seeks to challenge the best from swordsmen, by Vista's own mouth he said every swordsman wants to face him... why wouldn't marco ask him to be the one interfering! Marco/Jozu/Vista were all shown to be almost on similar level, Marco stepped up to Kizaru, Jozu to Aokiji, Vista to Mihawk... don't know what you all complain about here
- Kaido? Kaido's words regarding the shichibukai is simply because the avarage level of shichibukai is not on level of yonko
By avarage, I mean that Shichibukai vary in strength, we start from buggy level to Moria/Croc/Jinbe/Law level to Doffy/Kuma/Hancock level to Weevle level to Mihawk level
Avarage is not the same as avarage for yonko captains who are all 4 almost similar in level so their avarage is so high compared to shichibukai
It simply doesn't mean that the top of shichibukai cannot compare to Yonko
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Everyone who has been to Wano has mentioned Wano and Wano citizen mention them
Mihawk has never hinted or said he was in Wano. Especially during Kaido reign there. Only Moriah, Ace and BM went to Wano in the past 28 years
You are basing your argument on future events that hasn't happened, my thread is about Now with the infos we got !
How can you call my statement headcanon when you have no info in the Manga saying he went, then you go on speculating about the future events lol.
Shanks became Yonko not because of Fighting Mihawk, it happened 6+ years after he battled Mihawk. Contrary to Garp being known as hero of marines and getting Admiral proposal after rocks incident.
Shanks wasn't even Yonko candidate after fighting Mihawk. Luffy is Yonko candidate straight after battling Kata and being in WCI
Imagine Marco would send vista to stop Akainu or Yonko alone, he won't.
Crocodile told Mihawk to back off and Mihawk stopped and backed off.
Mihawk is a pirate. Being great pirate isn't about having a crew but more about your individual strength, Doffy and Hancock have crews and CoC yet no great pirate status.
Mihawk has never hinted or said he was in Wano. Especially during Kaido reign there. Only Moriah, Ace and BM went to Wano in the past 28 years
You are basing your argument on future events that hasn't happened, my thread is about Now with the infos we got !
How can you call my statement headcanon when you have no info in the Manga saying he went, then you go on speculating about the future events lol.
Shanks became Yonko not because of Fighting Mihawk, it happened 6+ years after he battled Mihawk. Contrary to Garp being known as hero of marines and getting Admiral proposal after rocks incident.
Shanks wasn't even Yonko candidate after fighting Mihawk. Luffy is Yonko candidate straight after battling Kata and being in WCI
Imagine Marco would send vista to stop Akainu or Yonko alone, he won't.
Crocodile told Mihawk to back off and Mihawk stopped and backed off.
Mihawk is a pirate. Being great pirate isn't about having a crew but more about your individual strength, Doffy and Hancock have crews and CoC yet no great pirate status.
dragon has underling that hold down fujitora without getting scratched. he doesn't even need to participate on the battle against 2 admirals despite suffering defeat. his son will be Most strongest character of series and his father is strongest marine. he is a D.
being strong is in his DNA and blood
being strong is in his DNA and blood
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Number of characters who actually became Yonko without even aiming for the title: 5 (6 if we count Luffy, 7 if we count Yonko candidate Marco)
Number of characters who became WSS after years of attempting: 1
It’s not harder to become a Yonko than it is to become WSS lol. Yonko is like a default title that every pirate king contender earns by default. There’s only been 1 WSS that we know of.
Number of characters who actually became Yonko without even aiming for the title: 5
Number of characters who became WSS after years of attempting: 1
It’s not harder to become a Yonko than it is to become WSS lol. Yonko is like a default title that every pirate king contender earns by default. There’s only been 1 WSS that we know of.
WSS is a title we don't know how it was decided.
Fights are more than just swords.
Tell Kejon that, not me lol. He was the one who compared them.
And we do know how WSS is decided, it’s been explained to us in Vivre Cards. It’s decided the exact same way all the other rumor strongest titles like WSM and WSC are decided. It’s just that people are more willing to buy into WSM and WSC than they are to buy into WSS.
And we do know how WSS is decided, it’s been explained to us in Vivre Cards. It’s decided the exact same way all the other rumor strongest titles like WSM and WSC are decided. It’s just that people are more willing to buy into WSM and WSC than they are to buy into WSS.
Again, No. Mihawk is not above the Yonko. If he couldn't beat Shanks years ago, what makes you think he can now? Utterly ridiculous.
It's implied that the Yonko are the top of the world; the only contenders are the Admirals, and possibly the 5 Elder Stars and Im, there could be outliers, but Assuredly Mihawk is even but not over.
It's implied that the Yonko are the top of the world; the only contenders are the Admirals, and possibly the 5 Elder Stars and Im, there could be outliers, but Assuredly Mihawk is even but not over.
