Le Fishe Thread Fodder Fist Ace

Ace is above any warlord bar Mihawk, Weevil and maybe current Crocodile. He's slightly above Marco, King and Cracker

Luffy who defeated Doffy badly with G4 is below Ace
That's why he had 500M while Mera Sabo got 602M
Oda telling us where each brother scaled to after DR

Luffy surpassed Ace when he beat Cracker and got FS to match Katakuri (the only commander above Ace beside Benn, Shiryu and Lafitte)
He isn't above Marco or King

Where this shit even come from
 
>Because of his potential and being Rogers Son
>Base Yamato with cuffs
>Defeating Jinbei aint a big deal

To make it short,Ace is dogwater and Sabo neg-low diffs him
 
Shanks flat out called him "strong" bozo.


Hilarious how Luffy could touch seastone then.



This one scene where Ace equals Aokiji's named attack with his own, is better than Marco's entire career of abusing his Regen.
That wasn't a clash of attacks, Ace used a wall of flame to block it like a shield which is hardly any different from Marco blocking Kaido's named attack, except of course, Kaido > Aokiji.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
That wasn't a clash of attacks, Ace used a wall of flame to block it like a shield which is hardly any different from Marco blocking Kaido's named attack, except of course, Kaido > Aokiji.
More cope.

This is Ace using a wall of flame.



That is an equal clash of two named attacks, one from Aokiji & one from Ace.
Both of them are not abusing their regeneration like Marco is too.
 
More cope.

This is Ace using a wall flame.



That is an equal clash of two named attacks, one from Aokiji & one from Ace.
Both of them are not abusing their regeneration like Marco is too.
The ability is called "Mirror Flame" and is a wall of flame... how much more can it be spelled out for you that it's a defensive move?

It's an attack from Aokiji that Ace blocks, same as Kaido using Blast Breath and Marco using Immortal Thistle to block it.

How is Marco abusing regen in that instance? Where do you see him taking damage from it?
 

TheKnightOfTheSea

𝕷𝖔𝖗𝖉 𝖔𝖋 𝕸𝖔𝖔𝖓'𝖘 𝕾𝖕𝖆𝖜𝖓
and yes Jinbei as well.
:choppawhat::choppawhat: do you think Pekoms>Who's Who as well?

him fighting Jinbe equally a few years before MF pretty much confirms he's not veteran level lol. Unless you think Jinbe grew from veteran level to massively above Who's Who in his 40s?

Ace was clearly supposed to be a powerful new world commander. He's no Caribou or Caesar. He's just a victim of dying before haki was fleshed out

Oda would never draw an Ulti matching an admirals attack...
 
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